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    Goggles for 60 yrd old and flat light

    Prefer smith due to prescription insert. Cant see shit, have to throw out hands to get perception. Cant tell if i am floating on air or snow. Yes i could always ski side of trail but somehow it doesnt work that way.
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    When i did your mother twice last nite did I get sloppy seconds ?????

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    Seriously, have you had an eye exam recently to rule out problems such as cataracts?

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    Unless you've got a medically repairable eye pathology e.g. cataracts , you're hosed. At 66 my storm chasing days are far behind me - flat light is un-skiable, shadows to be avoided if at all possible. There is no technology (yet) that will give you back your youthful, low light eyesight. Sounds cruel and inhumane, but there's still plenty of good skiing to be had - just on sunny days.

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    double ply clear lens. /thread

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    Develop your braille skiing. I have always loved storm skiing, and have found that developing the ability to ski based on what you foot and legs feel is of great help.

    P.S. works great when you can see also.

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    Yellow or Rose lens work for me at 57. What also helps a lot is a really wide field of view (i.e. if you can see the frame, you need bigger googles). Smith's fan gizmo for venting also helps.

    Julbo makes some light sensitive lens that are pretty nice and the optical quality seems better than most to me.

    I switch between the Smith with the fan and Julbo's with the lens that pops open for venting. Skiing in the trees also helps a lot.

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    There are many lenses that claim to improve contrast in flat light. The reason there are so many is that none of them work.

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    Gotta have different goggles lenses to switch out or multiple sets, one for full Sun and other for flat light. Slow down, feel moar is what she said.


    Will also second bbense on the Julbo shades, the Sniper is sweet for skin track oar high output XC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PB View Post
    Unless you've got a medically repairable eye pathology e.g. cataracts , you're hosed. At 66 my storm chasing days are far behind me - flat light is un-skiable, shadows to be avoided if at all possible. There is no technology (yet) that will give you back your youthful, low light eyesight. Sounds cruel and inhumane, but there's still plenty of good skiing to be had - just on sunny days.
    What about in the trees? I definitely have vertigo in blizzards on the wide open bowls (is that an age thing?), but trees are okay for me. As long as I don't get too close...
    Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!

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    I prefer the big-frame goggles like the VZ FishBowl. I am pretty sure most companies make something similar and probably with some new style of lens changing...clips, magnets. Plain rose tint is as light as I'll use, and forget about yellow unless you want to carry a darker lens. I have grown used to wearing the blackout lens with 6%vlt almost all days. They help reduce the noticing of floaters in my eyes.

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    Sick deals on Von Zipper....amazon search "veezee"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    What about in the trees? I definitely have vertigo in blizzards on the wide open bowls (is that an age thing?), but trees are okay for me. As long as I don't get too close...
    Sure, variable light conditions i.e. in tree shadows, will help ...... if. your eyes still work!! If they don't (sooner or later this will begin, usually between 55 and 65) there's absolutely nothing you can do by fussing with the incoming light if your eyes are weak and significantly compromised with age. If the cyborg overlords offered bionic eyes in exchange for eternal servitude, I'd be first in line.

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    Thanks, approaching the big 6-0 soon... but fortunately, eyes are still pretty good. I see a lot of eyeware at family gatherings tho, so I think you're right, only a matter of time.
    Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PB View Post
    If the cyborg overlords offered bionic eyes in exchange for eternal servitude, I'd be first in line.
    If they offer dental, I am in.

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    Dear OP,

    Thanks for this thread. I thought my goggle game needed some low-light rose colored lenses. Due to low snow and not wanting to get sunburnt, a goggle geek-out took place today. I found a couple forgotten about roses and realized my dark, black lenses were suffering. Anyway, your thread lead to a futureproofing of my current system and a dabble into the new tech...like 75% off some consumerism goodness...3 frames and 4 lenses for less than one full price pair!

    Sinseriously,
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    Smith yellow sensor mirror. Best low light lens I've come across.

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    If there's anything other than white anywhere to be seen keep your head up and focused on the dark, rather than staring at the snow in front of you.

    Try and follow someone (particularly useful when skiing along the cat track at the top of Granite Chief with all the wind lips.

    What makes flat light hard with age isn't just vision but also loss of balance, loss of proprioception (the sense of where your limbs are and what they're doing) and the strength and reflexes to absorb terrain with no warning.

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    Oakley's Hi Pink lens does a good job in low light..however Smith's goggles with changeable lenses are the way to go...particularly the goggles with room for any prescription lenses...

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    If there's anything other than white anywhere to be seen keep your head up and focused on the dark, rather than staring at the snow in front of you.

    Try and follow someone (particularly useful when skiing along the cat track at the top of Granite Chief with all the wind lips.

    What makes flat light hard with age isn't just vision but also loss of balance, loss of proprioception (the sense of where your limbs are and what they're doing) and the strength and reflexes to absorb terrain with no warning.
    Truth, especially about it being more than just the eyes. Following someone has it's hazards however - I ran over the poor guy I was following because I couldn't tell how close he was/when he stopped. He "complimented" me on my mad skilz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post

    What makes flat light hard with age isn't just vision but also loss of balance, loss of proprioception (the sense of where your limbs are and what they're doing) and the strength and reflexes to absorb terrain with no warning.
    Well that explains the slow speed double eject face plant into an unseen by me hole. A kid skied up and asked if I was OK. Told him I was just testing the binding heel release on my Dynafits.
    A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    the strength and reflexes to absorb terrain with no warning.
    Those are big ones. Local knowledge helps a lot. ProP, there's a pill for that.

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    Permnation, please elaborate with details on choices and purchasing cheap.

    Anyone try Chromapop? Does it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by permnation View Post
    Dear OP,
    Thanks for this thread. I thought my goggle game needed some low-light rose colored lenses. Due to low snow and not wanting to get sunburnt, a goggle geek-out took place today. I found a couple forgotten about roses and realized my dark, black lenses were suffering. Anyway, your thread lead to a futureproofing of my current system and a dabble into the new tech...like 75% off some consumerism goodness...3 frames and 4 lenses for less than one full price pair!

    Sinseriously,
    Perm
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    If I lived in WA, Oft would be my realtor. Seriously.

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    Amazon does a lot of the work for me. Here's a few examples, the 3rd pair was $52 and change yesterday...$200 retail, 2 lenses.
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    I went off yesterday and purchased 2 fishbowl and a jetpack, 3 frames and 4 lenses, futureproof!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    Permnation, please elaborate with details on choices and purchasing cheap.

    Anyone try Chromapop? Does it work?
    Does Chromapop keep your retinas from scaring in bright reflected light - sure just like any other proven lens technology (not noticing any better contrast and color definition). Do they miraculously return your unavoidably deteriorating eye sight to when you were 30? Absolutely not.

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    IME chromopop is no better than other lenses--I have the everydays and storms. The everydays do allow you to see the dark chemtrails IN FRONT of the planes laying down chemtrails behind them, so there's that (and some other interesting optical illusions).

    For any lens to work there has to be some contrast to accentuate. In true white out conditions there is none. There's a reason they scatter pine needles on race courses. I was skiing in Wolverine Bowl at Alpine a couple years ago in flat light--a patroller took it upon himself to scatter pine needles along the groomer.

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