Is this something you feel can/ occasionally should be controlled? I'm a kraut mick- definitely like drinking and jokes and very rarely get into fights but I can be very hard headed sometimes. My temper was a little out if control when I was a kid and my Irish mother would say " don't be such a Hun". My day going ness would gotta far in college and be dad would say straighten the fuck up...
Old Larry channels AK Rover, but with more brevity.
How again did you get so drunk by the last sentence? You were on a roll there, you just couldn't keep it together?Quote:
Originally Posted by OldLarry
To answer your question, I'm 3/4 English with 2 grandparents immigrating (legally, you dopes) to the US. I'm proper, reserved, and always impeccably dressed.
The Czech/Dutch mixed 1/4 probably accounts for all my 'slip ups' and boozing.
I think we are a creation of our environment. If your an English/Czech raised by Indonesian parents, I doubt if your ancestry has much to do with how you respond to the daily stress of life.
Edgy thread
I do believe we are all part nature, part nurture. In other words, our genetic makeup definitely influences our behavior, though whether it's as broad-brushed as saying all Irish like to drink or whatever, I'm not sure. But, your genetic makeup definitely has something to do with it - how else to explain siblings who have very different temperaments from each other despite being raised in very similar environments?
My great grandfather was a real piece of shit. Alcoholic, wife and daughter beating, anti-semetic, racist, lazy bastard who lost the family farm before the depression hit and even supported the Nazis in WWII (he lived in the US). Anytime I think something bad or evil I wonder if that is his genetics coming through to me.
Nature vs Nurture. You decide.
Nothing like getting slapped and hit with rulers by Irish nuns at an early age to form a certain personality.
And then have your Polish aunt try to take your ear off every time the parents left you in her care. Fun times.
Larry has a $1 bet at the firm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...=84503534#t=36
My dad died when I was a little kid. He had 2 brothers, one of whom I've seen only several times in my life, another I see maybe once every 5 years or so. What's interesting about this is that when my uncle and I talk about our experiences in life it's shocking to me how similar we are...and I'm told my father was similar, as was my grandfather. I have no doubt there are major genetic influences in our baseline personality type....at least in the case of my genetics and my personality.
German/Norwegian?
Sie paaren sich scheiße Kopf
fer sure you betcha lets go grab a brewski
My sister was adopted. We have very different personalities. But we laugh at some of the same stupid shit. Luckily our grandparents who were Catholic (one from each side) had the sense to abandon the church decades before I was born, so neither of us was subjected to the moral corruption and abuse so commonly inflicted upon members of that most sinister organization.
I need to ask my friend Travis Hilter about this topic.
That might not mean what you think it means. Translated: "You (formal) pair yourself (or they pair themselves) shit head" Either way it's Sheißkopf - one word.Quote:
Originally Posted by whipski
wtf, is that a b or infinity or what? This is a thread in English with a distinct lack of loafer references. Thus far.
Lol- was scrambling to get off train as I typed out the last bit..Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
Fuck that noise. Genetics results in minor differences in how neuro transmitters and other chemical signal systems work, but the rest of your personality is pure environment. And I suspect int hose limited areas where genetics plays any role, intraethnic differences are greater than interethnic differences.
The OP is merely trying to assign to one's "Irishness" the fat that you lik ealcohol, which is a common trait among all human ethnic groups. Find an isolated tribe in the amazon and you'll discover they ferment the local fruit one way or another.
Free translation dot com use it in ER in triage...kinda scary
My daughter, my mother in law and one of my best friends are adopted. What I see is that they're just a bit "off". Almost like they're out of their natural element. My MIL is a trustfunder debutant from St. Louis that just wants to drive her beater, (redundant), Subaru BRAT with her dogs to trailheads and hike. Friend is super smart, picks up languages in a second, etc. but bounces around from job to job. Daughter lives in cross country ski land and hates it, even though she's as fast as anyone here.
I think it's like this. You're genetically gifted to be good with your hands. Environmentally you could be a thief or a watch maker.
Since I've had kids I'm more convinced that there's something to the genetics involved.
Previously, I'd dismissed the notion of breed as significant and put more store in environment and nuture or lack thereof.
Seeing my kids behave, their affinities and struggles, particularly the difference between the sexes has changed my mind.
Your muleage may vary.
Apples don't fall far from the tree.
There are exceptions of course.
By the same person?Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
Or is this one of those logic puzzles where the answer is they're all the same person?
And the doctor says: "I can't operate on this boy, he is my son"
This doesn't make any sense to me. It is just as likely that my kids share my behaviors, affinities and struggles because they learned them from me and the Mrs., as that those are somehow genetically pre-determined. Add to that the fact that they are growing up not only in your presence, but in largely the same culture you grew up in, maybe even in the same subcutlures, and even micro-cultures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
My brother's adopted son has the same facial expressoins as my brother. Intersting anecdote, but no more.
Similar situation. My bio dad passed when I was 2. Many say we share very similar characteristics and mannerisms.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
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British+Swiss background=punctual, reserved, sarcastic asshole. I'd say there's something to the genetics argument.
I'm of Spanish and Polish ancestry, which might mean I enjoy red wine with my pierogi, I'm dark haired yet pale, quick to anger, not really bothered by antisemitism and that I have a strong subconscious desire to drive Muslims out of Europe...again.
Interesting that you are using ananecdotal observation to support your argument against anecdotal observations. 😎Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamespio
As an adoptee with biological and adopted kids, I tend to agree with buster. But then again, I tend to agree with most of his posts.
Why am I not surprised?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamespio
OK, then why did my son eschew teddy bears/soft toys in favor of trucks, trains and tools? Why did my daughter prefer dolls, etc to the trucks etc? Are these genetic or not? Neither kids was exposed to either except as toys.Quote:
It is just as likely that my kids share my behaviors, affinities and struggles because they learned them from me and the Mrs., as that those are somehow genetically pre-determined. Add to that the fact that they are growing up not only in your presence, but in largely the same culture you grew up in, maybe even in the same subcutlures, and even micro-cultures.
There was no real reason for a number of my son's behaviors which I'd rather not go into, but they are consistent with some well known syndromes that my father exhibits.
That's kind of inconsistent to assert anecdotal information but then dismiss it. I'm not claiming mine is more than anecdotal.Quote:
My brother's adopted son has the same facial expressoins as my brother. Intersting anecdote, but no more.
What I do mean to point out is how my view has changed; being a parent has significantly changed my position on nuture vs. nature to weighting the nature a lot more. Your mulage may vary.
Wow, interesting number of adopted bastards around.
I think the older you get the more genetics/nature comes on over environmental/nuture. In my case, two older siblings adopted no idea on their background, I was adopted and then my mother had my little brother genetic at age 38. About 18 years ago my genetic grandmother opened the connection between genetic mother and myself. My family I grew up with I still have tons in common with and consider my family. As I get older and spend less time around any of them I see myself getting some of genetic mother family traits. The sperm boy was genetic mother's older brother college roomie, from same Catholic hood growing up. I guess I look pretty much exactly like him. He ran a group of banks in Texasss, so not much similarity there.
I agree with this generally, but I also think that proclivities for addiction and alcoholism must be at least partially heritable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamespio