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When I think of what a hiker looks like, I don't visualize these guys.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-8888977.html
When I think of what a hiker looks like, I don't visualize these guys.
What a bunch of redneck assholes.
why oh why could that have not fallen on him and pinned him. douche.
LDS Boy Scout leadersQuote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
THIS EXACTLY..the church assigns them to volunteer work...most of the "scout leaders" are not even interested in the outdoors, they just have to fulfill their "church" obligations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Steve
Im not a huge fan of the boy scouts in general as i've seen their idea of "leave no trace" and its not pretty, but its even worse here in Utah.
hope they put these guys to the fire.
Best use of a GoPro this year.
Federal crime?
Dude I just saw this too... Fucking assholes should be banned from National Parks for life and fined heavily. Fucking asshats. I really just wish somebody got pinned and lost a limb doing that shit so we could see the panic and regret firsthand.
Destroying Federal property.Quote:
Originally Posted by DasBlunt
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Originally Posted by Tippster
It's a state park....
Ah. Urp?
I've seen some snippets of their facebook pages, and the responses they put to this. They deserve whatever punishment is coming their way.
Unfortunately, it's a state park, so I don't think there can be Federal charges.
It is uncanny how when some sort of outdoor jackassery goes down in UT it's usually the fucking Scouts. That and lightning strikes...which might just be nature's karmic smack down.
It made me kind of queasy to watch that video. A 20 million year old feature, quickly destroyed by a fat fuck bubba. It really summed up "Redneck Man's" relationship with his environment.
The level of stupidity captured is stunning. Did they even consider why it is a protected park in the first place? And then to put the video on Facebook? So much awesome stupid.
You guys realize that if a 350 lb. mouth breather pushed a 800 lb rock over and it moved 8 feet, that it was probably going to fall this winter in a storm. Maybe even just in a light breeze. Erosion happens. It's not like he was using a pry bar, or any kind of tool. He just kinda flung his body at it.
Still a jackass, yes. Worth all of the self-righteous uproar? Get over yourselves.
Probably not. That's the cool thing about hoodoos and balanced rocks. Millions of years of wind and water and the perfect balance and density of the rock and soil create them. Fat fuck bubbas are not erosion.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJSapp
Well you move rocks around for a living, more or less. Perhaps the truth lies in the middle somewhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by DJSapp
big stupid fat douchebags should not be let out of their cages
Or perhaps he's just wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
So you're a geologist?Quote:
Originally Posted by DJSapp
Edit: Deleted because it was a reasonable discussion of an unreasonable position. Sapp can just bleive whatever he wants.
Millions of years of setup for a brief stint where they are perfectly balanced and awesome, and then they fall on their own. FFB accelerated the process, but watch it again. He pushed for about half a second, without anything behind him. Not exactly a heavy duty lift here; that one was primed to go, and soon. If he struggled for 10 seconds, then yeah, it had some more life in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowtron's ghost
MY point: yes he accelerated it's destruction. Yes, he's a jackass. Was it going to go down all on it's own fairly soon? Probably pretty likely. These awesome rock things go down.
http://seattletimes.com/html/travelo...34_arch11.html
http://now.msn.com/tennessee-beach-a...y-robert-wills
http://www.northlandoutdoors.com/eve...blisher_ID/36/
And I'm changing my sig. That is awesome.Quote:
Fat fuck bubbas are not erosion.
Yeah, and geologic time dictates that now and 250 years from now are almost the same point on the line.... but whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJSapp
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Originally Posted by DJSapp
Your point fucking sucks.
agreed, the force of stupidity is strong in that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamespio
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Originally Posted by DJSapp
Sounds like you are speaking from experience...knocked over a few of these, huh?
Take a look at J.W. Powell's photos of the Grand Canyon, and compare them to the retakes 100 years later. in most case every single rock is in exactly the same place. Ready to fall over on its own on a geological scale can still mean thousands of years.
But, I agree, still jackasses. I say make the fuckwits put it back.
Geologic time yes, but at this point this is a structure subject to wind loading, not as much the measuring movement of mountain ranges. Wind loading vs. the amount of force that guy put on it, this was a 40 mph wind away from falling.Quote:
Originally Posted by grskier
Very simple explaination: http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Wind-Load
0.00256*(wind speed in mph)^2*drag coefficient*surface area = force applied to rock. My generous assumptions: FFB pushed with 200 lbs of force, a drag coefficient of 1.0 and 50 sqft of applied surface area is equal to a 40 mph wind load. Maybe the wind never blows here so a 40 mph wind during a winter storm is unreasonable, I don't know. I saw mountains and assumed the wind blows in the winter.
Sorry to disrupt the circle-jerk of righteous indignation.
Yeah there's that of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
Who mourns for Adonais?
make em get 3rd world and put the boulder back egyptian style.
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Where are they gonna find a gaggle of Jewish slaves?Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
Didnt watch the video, didnt read the thread, but its a fucking rock...get over it.
Jesus christ you guys are a bunch of pussys.
edit: watched the video, ^^ still stands.
Philosophic question. An interesting logic you bring up: if something will happen anyway then its OK to hasten its demise. IMO you tread on a slippery slope with that logic. If someone, for fun, dynamited the Old Man of the Mountain the day before it fell would that have been OK?Quote:
Originally Posted by DJSapp
I dunno- they look Canadian to me...
Los Angeles i suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
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Reminds me of the people complaining about the use of trekking poles and how they damage the rock and impact the natural environment. "Rocks have feelings too dammit!"Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk
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Imagine how much of this has taken place over the course of human history. Only now can we witness it from the safety of our seats on the glorious interwebs. Thank you Al Gore and GoPro!
It's not like they are toppling Stonehenge, it's one of may balanced rocks in a field of balanced rocks. Are they assholes? Yep. Are they setting a bad example for others? Yes. Should you get your panties in a bunch over it? Hell Yes!!!
When we were kids, rock trundling was a sport. We used big pry bars and car jacks. Don't know how old those rock formations were, but nobody seemed to give a fuck, and it was on our land.
says the idiot who can't rid himself of raccoon's. ya - assholes who go into parks to break shit are assholes. it's fucking perfect to have assholes on tgr defend these assholes. And shredgnar was a trundler? fucking perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk
Ya, I mean, if these were endagered rocks I would completely understand...:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pow4Brains
In my estimation, the vandalism and removal of cave drawings, ancient pictographs, etc...is infinitely worse than this.
When we used to go to field sites for geology studies/mapping in college there were definitely some places in which you had to stay on designated paths due to the presence of endangered lichens, this I completely understood and complied with.
Err - it's Goblin Valley state park, there's a limited number of Goblins there. It's kinda unique and kinda cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk
so fucking funny the toolboxes here and who they'll follow off a cliff. Let's go lynch Dean Potter! Oh, wait, already did that.
Pretty sure these guys are borderline retarded.
http://kutv.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_7550.shtml
Ya, I know, I have been there multiple times, there are a shit ton of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
wtf do coon infestations have to do with this?
Not sure if you were referring to me with the lemming comment but Im pretty sure I was the first to go against the TGR-grain in this thread.