How Much Will You Miss Freeze?

This info courtesy of Particle:

More than a few people are raising their voices against Time4Media's decision to can Freeze Magazine. While this might not be the most altruistic of causes, Freeze was and is an overall positive force in the growth and rejuvenation of skiing and we back 'em all the way. If you want to get involved, add your name to the email below and send it on to all your jibby pals!:

If you havn't heard Freeze has been shut down, so by forwarding this message and signing the pettition by adding your name to the bottom of the list on this message you can help to enable the re - creation of Freeze magazine. Freeze Magazine has been documenting and contributing to skiing's revolutionary movement since day one. It has helped to rejuvenate the sport of skiing so much, inspiring skiers of all ages and abilities. From the New Canadian Air Force, to Seth Morrison's Alaska lines, Parkasauras, extraordinary competition coverage, and Shane McConkey's crazy Stunt of the Month.

Freeze has been there- documenting and providing the most legit and exciting coverage of the soul, energy, fun, and progression behind the sport, an attribute that magazines like have lacked thus far. The discontinuance of Freeze Magazine would be a sad and devastating loss for the sport. Freeze has been (and still is) a major contributor to the excitement, progress, and success that skiing has endured in recent years.

Please reconsider the continuance of Freeze Magazine...Skiing's Revolution! If you want to help, please type your name below and forward this message to anyone and everyone who has experienced stinky ski boots, and/or have been inspired, entertained, and appreciative of Freeze Magazine's contribution to the sport of skiing! Please include this email address in your forward per 100 names.

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I was just checking out Steeze at the grocery store. I bought it and have yet to really dive in. Man I'm gonna miss that mag. There is simply no other mag like it. It gives me a perspective that I can't get anywhere else. There will be a HUGE hole in the magazine spectrum. We need all of our mags!

I totally agree with Str8tline. The December issue of Freeze is great. If you are over 20 maybe the writing isn't for you, but there are always sick photos. Freeze brought skiing back to life, seven years ago everyone was focused on snowboarding, remember when there were no skiers in the park? Freeze isn't for everyone, but our industry needs them.

heh, becker is going to get so much spam now!

I'm extremely bummed that they are gone. They were just starting to like my work. This Dec. issue was quite a change from the past issues interestingly enough. Useful articles, better page layout, and much thicker than most issues of the rag.

Like said above, it is going to leave a huge gap. Hopefully someone steps up and fills that gap again. Oh, and hopefully someone goes and burns down the Transworld media office now. There's gotta be someone pissed off enough at Lumbergh over there enough to do it!

Freeze wasn't the greatest ski mag out there, but it sure kicked the snot out of Ski. It was one of those magazines I could usually find at a Hudson News stand, and was good reading material for bus and train trips in and out of NYC. Also helped pass the time while defacating.

I bet Time is really gonna regret this. The jibber-jizz rag set is just growing in age and purchasing power. Freeze has a market - someone will step up!

I'm pissed, cause not only does skiing lose the only mag that is solely devoted to covering the aspect of our sport that brought skiing out of it's 5 foot deep grave, but Flip McCririck (ex Senior Photo Ed, co-founder of Freeze, and now Senior Photog) had all but guaranteed me a page in the "contender" section. That would've been sweeet. :cool:

Anyways, besides my self-absorbed ski-slutting, something desperately needs to fill the huge hole that Freeze's demise will leave.

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Powder, Skiing and Couloir are my favs.

.....if you asked me 5 years ago, yes. In November 2004, sad to say I will not miss it.

Freeze needed to go under simply to purge Brad Holmes from the ski industry. Hopefully Marker will go out of business next... :fuckyou:

Other than the shitty writing and unoriginal layout, it was great. Chicks, underage drunk kids, and decent photos. I'll miss it, but I'm sure something bigger and better will rise out of the ashes.

Definitely cancel all your Transworld subscriptions if the cancellation of Freeze bothers you, and let them know why you're doing it while you're at it.

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Originally Posted by BakerBoy

Freeze needed to go under simply to purge Brad Holmes from the ski industry. Hopefully Marker will go out of business next... :fuckyou:

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Right now I'm laughing.

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Freeze... oh yeah, to bad the Christians at Transworld bought them instead of Larry Flint, we could have had full page spreads of drunken snowboard chicks pissing and articles on on how to buy crack, instead we got Brad. Fuck you Larry, you hate the kids.
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Every time there's a shakeup in the magazine side of the industry, my mind wanders to that warm fuzzy office setting in the sky, where someone like Larry Flynt or some other magnanimous kabillionaire decides to fund an artistic coffee table ski mag.

Oh, there have been many a pipedream discussed in hazy basements, where heads mull the move, banging against walls to the Utah house beat playing at the temple down the street; at all nighters in Whistler; in North Shore attics.
Electronic mumblings of a Red Dawn raid on the established diminution dump to keep the soul alive and feed the vicarious verve as existential historians of the sport.

The competition is formidable.

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Originally Posted by splat

Every time there's a shakeup in the magazine side of the industry, my mind wanders to that warm fuzzy office setting in the sky, where someone like Larry Flynt or some other magnanimous kabillionaire decides to fund an artistic coffee table ski mag.

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Pitch the idea to Mr. Wheelchairman, he owns Big Brother and did all the shit I mentioned and more.

writing wasn't always top notch or anything, and brad holmes has seriously been lacking for the past god know how many years, but it's definately a unique mag that has brought a lot to the park aspect of the sport. i just got my december issue today, and just looking it over, i can say that i will feel that the sport will definately be missing a major contributer (what with the open, parkasoreass, etc).

there is going to be a big void to fill once freeze is gone.

SBC Skier (my fav mag), Powder and Couloir are the best mags IMO. I never did like Freeze, I won't lose any sleep over this...

God damn I hope Holmes is finally out of the friggin industry. Stupidest shit ever, right up there with Marker.

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Originally Posted by BakerBoy

Freeze needed to go under simply to purge Brad Holmes from the ski industry.

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Then who are we going to laugh at? That's a market niche that needs to remain filled, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by 13

Then who are we going to laugh at? That's a market niche that needs to remain filled, isn't it?

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Like Brad Holmes, rainbows and unicorns are only funny for so long. The monkey!

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Originally Posted by BakerBoy

Like Brad Holmes, rainbows and unicorns are only funny for so long. The monkey!

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So does that mean you're volunteering to fill that niche now?

Hey, somebody's got to do it.

PS - It's 5 minutes to 6 a.m. PST, did you even go to bed?

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Originally Posted by BakerBoy

Definitely cancel all your Transworld subscriptions if the cancellation of Freeze bothers you, and let them know why you're doing it while you're at it.

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Jesus, I wish.I now get 3 issues each of Ski and Skiing each month. I don't pay for them, they just come. Last year I was getting two of each and tried to unsubscribe and look what happened! I'm afraid to contact them again.

100 pages of ads
10 pages of actual content
made for the self serving short attention span monkies that are todays youth in all their gorillaz steez glory
i would have actually cared for .05 seconds if the lifty chicks were actual lifties, but in actuality they were just shitty ugly models (aka chicks under 5'10" that can't actually make it in the real modeling industry and have to resort to shitty photo shoots for shitty people)

go smoke a bowl in the gondola, you'll feel better that freeze is gone.
just make sure there's no DEA in it.

i for one couldn't give a damn less.

to the petition maker: they axed the magazine because it wasn't making them any money, your "market segment" would rather spend its $10 on weed than a magazine. unless you can single handedly get people to donate a shitton of money, don't waste your time.

Finally decided to subscribe to Freeze and before even receiving an issue and after my check got cashed I find out that it's not going to be.
Damn! Was really looking forward to adding it to my magazine quiver.

Funny, Freeze is the only mag that has never ran one of my pics. The guys that work there, after meeting them at Solfest, left a bad taste in my mouth, in respect to how they treated alll the kids that fucking worshiped them. Yeah its sad to see another mag die, but Im glad it was freeze instead of adecent publication. And yeah they did do a lot for the sport, but they havent done shit lately.

While it seems big to us, because we're so close to it, the jib market is just not large enough to attract the big ad dollars... period.
jibij.com was a labor of love, but I was certain I'd be able to raise enough money to maintain the quality I wanted in both the look and the content. Couldn't do it. Even with traffic numbers higher than I ever predicted, there were no dollars to be found. I'd probably still do it all over again, because it was just that much fun, but the site wound up costing me lots of money and time over the few years it was up.
It looks like the market would have to grow by a factor of 3 or 4 to be taken seriously.
Magazines like Freeze are necessary to grow the market. So, now what? Smaller market means less R&D, less competition, less selection and higher costs for us.
We see vast differences between the jibbers and the powder crowds and may assume that one market doesn't affect the other. I think that's a mistake.

I'm going to miss my free (3) issues of Freeze for buying Yearbook. I hope they finish out the year at least.

Great mag, too bad so sad

I'm sure Spicoli would Miss Freeze as much as she would let him.

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Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

I'm sure Spicoli would Miss Freeze as much as she would let him.

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Freeze had the liftie of the month, right? Yeah, that's about the only page I'll miss.

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Funny, Freeze is the only mag that has never ran one of my pics. The guys that work there, after meeting them at Solfest, left a bad taste in my mouth, in respect to how they treated alll the kids that fucking worshiped them. Yeah its sad to see another mag die, but Im glad it was freeze instead of adecent publication. And yeah they did do a lot for the sport, but they havent done shit lately.

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I might be misinterpreting what you are saying here, but the guys at Freeze were always super cool. Mark Epstein(The Jerk), Micah Abrams, and Flip(No longer there) are great people, who have done a lot to help skiing. They always work getting new skiers in the spotlight(contenders) and always try to have their facts straight on those skiers. If you don't really know those guys, you shouldn't be badmouthing them.
I see you shots all over the place, were you sending Freeze your "A" shots or "B's". Powder, SKier, Frequency, Ski Canada, maybe Freeze didn't publish your shots since the best were already being used in those other publications.

If you didn't like the mag, fine, but bad mouthing good people isn't needed.

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Originally Posted by cab9

They always work getting new skiers in the spotlight(contenders) and always try to have their facts straight on those skiers.

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Like the time they spelled Pete Sowar's last name Sauer? I like those guys a lot, and I'm definitely going to miss Freeze more than most (I had two features in issue 1, afterall). But man, that's more letters wrong than right. :p

If someone thinks an email-circulated petition will make a difference in this case, they need to be reading something else.

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Like the time they spelled Pete Sowar's last name Sauer? I like those guys a lot, and I'm definitely going to miss Freeze more than most (I had two features in issue 1, afterall). But man, that's more letters wrong than right. :p

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I only said "try" to get their facts straight ;) Good guys, always make me laugh or just shake my head WTF......

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I might be misinterpreting what you are saying here, but the guys at Freeze were always super cool. Mark Epstein(The Jerk), Micah Abrams, and Flip(No longer there) are great people, who have done a lot to help skiing. They always work getting new skiers in the spotlight(contenders) and always try to have their facts straight on those skiers. If you don't really know those guys, you shouldn't be badmouthing them.
I see you shots all over the place, were you sending Freeze your "A" shots or "B's". Powder, SKier, Frequency, Ski Canada, maybe Freeze didn't publish your shots since the best were already being used in those other publications.

If you didn't like the mag, fine, but bad mouthing good people isn't needed.

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At Sol fest thouse guys repeatedly told kids to fuck off, and treated them like shit, these kids looked up to those guys and respected them a ton, but when they finaly got to meet them in person, they where complete assholes back. Not really a cool thing to do in my mind especially when you are in a position where you need to be acting like hte role model the kids think that you are.

As far as pics, that mag sure seemed to be more bro-brah than most, they sat on more images than anyone else, and they are the only mag that repeatedly sent my stuff back damaged, and in a very unprofesional manner.

Sure Freeze did stand for something good at the time, but lately they havent done much, with the exception of the on going US open. Maybe they would of put outa better quality mag that more readers would have subscribed to if they wernt to busy trying to be cool

[QUOTE=mtbakerskier]At Sol fest thouse guys repeatedly told kids to fuck off, and treated them like shit, these kids looked up to those guys and respected them a ton, but when they finaly got to meet them in person, they where complete assholes back.

- Those guys, Jerk, Micah or Flip wouldn't tell a kid to fuck off, maybe it was some bro brah intern. But you were there and I wasn't.


"As far as pics, that mag sure seemed to be more bro-brah than most"
-No arguement there, a couple of others are getting that way too.

Freeze is gone, it sucks for some not for others, but as a photog one less mag is one less paycheck, or chance of a paycheck.

Freeze is gone, it sucks for some not for others, but as a photog one less mag is one less paycheck, or chance of a paycheck.[/QUOTE]

Very true, Im just hoping this paves the way for a better magazine to inter the market place, or that it will allow Powder and the rest of the ski mags to grow, and increase there content via more advertising dollars coming htere way instead of another mag.

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Originally Posted by mtbakerskier

Freeze is gone, it sucks for some not for others, but as a photog one less mag is one less paycheck, or chance of a paycheck.

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Eh? Most ski companies have a limited add budget. Fewer magazine's to spread the budget around on = more $/magazine; more $/magazine = more money to spend on magazine/shareholders; more money to spend on magazine = more money for photographers. Just a theory. From a business standpoint I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two more ski makes fold/morph into something different. In N. America we've got Ski, Skiing, SBC Skiier, Ski Canada, Powder, Freeskiier, Backcountry, Couloir, Telemark Skiier - that's quite a few titles for the marketplace - they all have their niches, but that's still alot of titles for almost the same add base.

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Eh? Most ski companies have a limited add budget. Fewer magazine's to spread the budget around on = more $/magazine; more $/magazine = more money to spend on magazine/shareholders; more money to spend on magazine = more money for photographers. Just a theory. From a business standpoint I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two more ski makes fold/morph into something different. In N. America we've got Ski, Skiing, SBC Skiier, Ski Canada, Powder, Freeskiier, Backcountry, Couloir, Telemark Skiier - that's quite a few titles for the marketplace - they all have their niches, but that's still alot of titles for almost the same add base.

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Funny you say that, rummor has it that Skiing mag is undergoing quite a staff change / revamping of hte entire magazine including its market place and a name cange. Suppsoedly its going to be called MOUNTAIN next year and feature content that is aimed more at the Powder readership and younger.

But its from the smae folks, so i wouldnt hold my breath on it being very good.

Some suit is gonna come up with the save-all answers because he answers to some beancounter's numbers, which influence the decisions made by the board of directors of some big corporation that tells the CEO to send in the suit - and what do you get?

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Originally Posted by splat

Some suit is gonna come up with the save-all answers because he answers to some beancounter's numbers, which influence the decisions made by the board of directors of some big corporation that tells the CEO to send in the suit - and what do you get?

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A big steaming pile of shit. :nonono2:

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Originally Posted by cab9

Freeze is gone, it sucks for some not for others, but as a photog one less mag is one less paycheck, or chance of a paycheck.

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Ding ding ding....of course they didn't pay very well.