Go Dubya!!! 4 more years baby!!!!!!! :biggrin: :biggrin:
by the way..blurred your the man!
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Go Dubya!!! 4 more years baby!!!!!!! :biggrin: :biggrin:
by the way..blurred your the man!
Thus spake Cascappalachia
Weak. You can't stick yer neck out and voice yer opinion in depth in other threads. You had to wait 'til now? Pussy.
sorry...havent got on the board in a long time...but i was bored waiting for the results and i did...whatever though
I's heard dat Blueball Skier is well into dat butty boy action.
your strength of conviction is inspiring. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewood_skier
let me guess, you waited until the polls closed back east and checked to see who was winning on CNN so you could jump on the bandwagon.
actually, i held bush signs in the rain today in walla walla washington...so no
Preaching to f'ing choir :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewood_skier
I pooped out a purple monkey today too...what, you don't believe me? Come on. I wouldn't lie on the internet.
Gee. sorry to hear that. kerry took her. you lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by cj001f
Bush won Walla-Walla county 63%-36%. What exactly did I lose?Quote:
Originally Posted by Telekóptero
Is'nt that the same group of intellectuals(Eastern Washington.) who voted out their Senator who also happened to be Senate Majority Leader--thinking that the New guy would just assume that position?
Nation wide, a HUGE win for my team
Now, there is no excuse left, a majority in both houses and a clear road ahead. Bush could have a Regan like legacy upon leaving office.
Funny enough, I am not a big Bush supporter. He's way too big government oriented for my tastes.We shall see. I'm looking for a return to old fashioned conservatism.
Tom Foley, He was Speaker of the House at the time. Had served WA's 5th district for 30 years. The good people of South Dakota can now be added to this list of geniuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Svengali
Nationwide it was a huge win for incumbency. For a nation that bitches about the state of politics, we sure don't want to change the players at local, state or national levels.
so you're saying that all women that happen to hold a job, or not married, or engage in sexual activity with anyone they are not married too, or had the gall to vote are in for some changes, eh?? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrw
You won't find a return to good old fashioned conservatism with Bush. I'm more looking for a lack of total economic collapse of the country, anything else will be a bonus. I'm not really ecstatic about the apparent Bush win, but I'm a lot happier about it than an apparent Kerry win.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrw
We need some real vision and leadership, unfortunately neither of the leading candidates offered that. Here's to 4 more years of something, hope they are good for the country. This country deserves better choices than it had this time around.
Don't get your panties in a twist. I think he was referring to fiscal conservatism, which isn't a bad thing in this age of entitlement.Quote:
Originally Posted by up an down
Which, ironically, is absent in this administration.
I can think of a million excuses, the most notable being that Regan and W. are worlds apart. There will be no Bush legacy. There will be a ridiculous debt, lower taxes that won't pay it off, and abrasive, bridge-burning foriegn policy coupled with domestic policy geared towards christian fundementalists. Oh joy.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrw
Bush finally won outright. Hopefully Kerry won't use the court system. I am dissapointed to say the least, but at least my state didn't fall vote for Bush. Looks like the Republicans had a strong showing throughout most of the country and locally around here. Looks like we'll have a couple of years without the presidential election rearing it head until McCain announces his presidential exploritory committee.
well since you seem to be able read his mind, i guess you are entitled to respond for him then :fuckyou:Quote:
Originally Posted by 13
fical conservatism is a good thing, and i agree the bush and his gang are not fiscal conservatives,, in fact they cite the reagan era deficits as proof that federal government debt doesn't matter
4 MORE YEARS!!!! ......................of war, lies, and uncertainty. Makes me want to vomit. Just goes to show you how ignorant our country is as a whole.
How the fuck could our contry re-elect such a fucking dumb ass
Heh, well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by teledave
Ask religious country bumpkin middle america.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtbakerskier
I read somewhere that:Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
Over two-thirds of all "regular" church goers vote Republican and over two-thirds of educated college graduates vote Democratic
Result: The majority of Bible-belters that vote Republican are under educated.
Stupid people should not be allowed to vote.
....and 99% of statistics are made up on the spot to try to make some kind of point.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmsummit
Guess my stats must fall somewhere in the remaining 1%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt_Oblivious
Rs have more high school grads and Ds have more college grads.
I love how this election is said to come down to "terror" and "values" while f-ing NY and NJ voted D. I think the bible belters should leave the terror worries to them.
And all government, too? :nonono2:Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzo
Sorry, what's good for the big cities is NOT necessarily what's good for THE REST OF THE NATION. There was a whole lot of red on that political breakdown map.
To the rednecks.....
You had the chance to prove to the world that you
WEREN'T the brainwashed, gullible, easily led nation
of jingoistic morons the world knows you to be and YOU
FAILED...
Bush made it painfully clear to YOU and the world what
America really stands for and YOU had a chance to do
something about it but YOU chose to support him
WILFULLY...
This man is throwing YOUR tax dollars down the drain,
creating and manufacturing a war on terror which puts
YOU in danger, just to benefit himself and his big
business friends; he's waging wars around the world
that YOUR children will die in, he's INCREASED
terrorism in the world and given militant Muslims more
support than they could have got with 100 years of
their own PR, he's flushed YOUR country's reputation
down the toilet and made Americans the most despised
people on the planet, tarring all Americans with the
same brush and YOU had a chance to change all that and
YOU'VE voted for him to CARRY ON doing it for the next
4 years!
This man has run YOUR dollar into the ground and
weakened YOU up nicely to be superseded by China as
the next super power not to mention united a Europe
against you so you have to fight on two fronts to
maintain YOUR global position and to make things
worse, America under Bush has become synonymous with
outsourcing jobs to places like China and India as he
f*ucks YOU over on the job front and YOU STILL VOTE
FOR HIM!
Under Bush your country has become a fascist pseudo
democracy with Patriot Acts and people locked up with
no trial, a country that has sunk so low, that
international election observers were dispatched to
over see this election and to record all forms of
noticeable intimidation and corruption, something that
only occurs in true banana republics. Under Bush your
country has not only become the least free of the
developed countries but freedom-wise America now ranks
below many Eastern European developing countries and
YOU STILL VOTE FOR HIM!
YOU are truly a nation of STUPID fuc*king morons and
YOU deserve everything YOU'RE going to get over the
next four years...
And yes, I'm aware not every American likes Bush or
voted for him, but YOU had the chance to show the
world that America is a country of intelligent people
with a stupid minority.
But we see that, as it has always been, America is a
country of stupid people with an intelligent
minority....
I realize most of the people on this board are in that minority. Sorry for the rant. I just can't believe how it went down....I'm done. Back to skiing....
Something I think is very apt this day for both sides:
“I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organization be formed to lead or to coerce people along any particular path. If you first understand that, then you will see how impossible it is to organize a belief. A belief is purely an individual matter, and you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes dead, crystallized; it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion, to be imposed on others. This is what everyone throughout the world is attempting to do. Truth is narrowed down and made a plaything for those who are weak, for those who are only momentarily discontented. Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it. You cannot bring the mountain-top to the valley. If you would attain to the mountain-top you must pass through the valley, climb the steeps, unafraid of the dangerous precipices. You must climb towards the Truth, it cannot be "stepped down" or organized for you. Interest in ideas is mainly sustained by organizations, but organizations only awaken interest from without. Interest, which is not born out of love of Truth for its own sake, but aroused by an organization, is of no value. The organization becomes a framework into which its members can conveniently fit. They no longer strive after Truth or the mountain-top, but rather carve for themselves a convenient niche in which they put themselves, or let the organization place them, and consider that the organization will thereby lead them to Truth." - Krishnamurti
I keep hearing on NPR that alot of the people who voted for Bush said that 'moral values' were their most important issue.
This to me in ridiculous. Aside from the fact that I believe Bush is a crooked former cokehead whose religion is a farce to pander to the religious right, people should look to themselves, their family, and their clergymen for moral values. The president's job is to run the country. How is Kerry, a devout Catholic, less moral?
If Bush was running a company and had the same track record over the last few years, he'd have been fired a long time ago. Shame on Americans for their ignorance in letting this happen. Shame. :mad: :( :cussing: :confused:
i don't understand how people who are passionate enough about skiing to spend time here and in the great outdoors could possibly support/approve of Bush's enviornmental policies/record?? that one issue alone (not to mention everything else) should cause you, as a skier, to question your support for this corrupt administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewood_skier
I very rarely if ever post in political threads anymore because no one ever changes their mind, they just flame each other from their respective bunkers endlessly.
But on this day I would like to offer this small solace to those who voted for Senator Kerry: It might turn out better that he lost. Had Kerry won, he would have been in an almost untenable position, with the war ongoing, the economy poised to falter dramatically within a couple of years (not my opinion alone, by any means), and spite-filled Republican majorities in both houses of Congress. He would have had a very difficult time changing anything of substance, and the inevitable problems would have been laid on his doorstep rather than on that of the Republicans, where they belong. It is quite possible that a one-term Kerry presidency would have lead to a prolonged continuation of Republican control.
I am not rooting for bad things to happen, but I feel it is inevitable that they will, and I am happy that the right people will get the blame. It's like anything else: people resist change until it is obvious that it is imperative that they must change, until the "tipping point" has been reached . Clearly in many people's eyes that tipping point has not been reached, but I think it will arrive before the next presidential election, and in four years we will have an opportunity to get this country back on track.
Until then, keep your head low, the shit is about to hit the fan.
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Originally Posted by freshies
i tried to use that tact with some righties on the board a while ago, ep skis maybe, they were all, psshaw! show me kerry's plan. so i did. then they were all, psshaw! like he wont change his mind in five seconds.....flipflopflipflopflipflopflipflopflipfl opflipflopflipflopflipflopflipflopflipflopflipflop blahblahblahrhetoricblah.
people don't listen to that enviornmental stuff if they see themselves fitting into the republican culture and belief set. they justify it in some bizzare way. like, i like the enviornment, and i wish bush was better, but i really feel like i cant buy into anything besides the GOP fiscal and war policies. also i hate all those people less fortunate than me and don't want them to have any social services whatsoever, because i have to pay like 200 dollars more a year to help those fucking pieces of shit out. and i need that money to buy a new gun. so its bush for me!!!!!!!!
Damn straight. My college buddy who's lived in London for a few years now said that the brits and most of the civilized world outside of the U.S. think it's fucking crazy how much religion plays into our politics. Notice how no political figure in England will mention God in a speech. I'm all for people excercising religious beliefs in church or prayer or whatever, but what the fuck does it have to do with being president? Nothing. There are ways to oppose and fight gay marriage, abortion, and stem cell research (if that's your personal agenda, it's not mine at all) without ruining the environment, bombing innocent people, ruining wages, jobs and the economy, and making the entire world fucking hate us.Quote:
Originally Posted by homerjay
We live in Dark times. May somebody save us all.
JESUS!!......Jesus will save us all! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bossass
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Originally Posted by milkman
This is the reason the left can not win an election in this country.John Kerry is the very definition of this elitist mentality which has been TOTALLY rejected by America. It is why they will lose again in four years when Queen Hillary makes her "anointed" run. God bless you guys :) you make it SO easy :cool:
[QUOTE=iceman]I very rarely if ever post in political threads anymore because no one ever changes their mind, they just flame each other from their respective bunkers endlessly.
But on this day I would like to offer this small solace to those who voted for Senator Kerry: It might turn out better that he lost. Had Kerry won, he would have been in an almost untenable position, with the war ongoing, the economy poised to falter dramatically within a couple of years (not my opinion alone, by any means), and spite-filled Republican majorities in both houses of Congress. He would have had a very difficult time changing anything of substance, and the inevitable problems would have been laid on his doorstep rather than on that of the Republicans, where they belong. It is quite possible that a one-term Kerry presidency would have lead to a prolonged continuation of Republican control.
I am not rooting for bad things to happen, but I feel it is inevitable that they will, and I am happy that the right people will get the blame. It's like anything else: people resist change until it is obvious that it is imperative that they must change, until the "tipping point" has been reached . Clearly in many people's eyes that tipping point has not been reached, but I think it will arrive before the next presidential election, and in four years we will have an opportunity to get this country back on track.[QUOTE]
I don't know about any shit hitting fans and whatnot, but I think you're exactly right. Kerry had promised a lot and was destined to fail - there was no human way possible for him to pull off all of what he said he would, with all he was up against.
I also think he was a victim of his voting record, which wasn't on track with a lot of what he was promising.
why do the parties have to nominate such obviously fake and worthless individuals for these elections? Bush wasn't the best of the '00 Republican primary, either.
Ice - well said, and echoes much of my own thinking. I'm a problem solver by nature, and an optimist for the most part. Last night as I watched the returns with a very political crew - many of my friends have been directly working on these campaigns for quite some time - I found myself internally and externally spinning (bad word, I know) how this could be a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
In addition to the fact that I truly believe that 4 more years of this crackpot and an extremely rightwing agenda will actually finally start to wake people up to what's really happening - I also know that a republican in office is always good fuel for the progressive movement. Many of the non-profit groups I work with will fundraise more effectively with Bush in office, since people do not feel they can rely on the government to make the appropriate social changes needed to safeguard social services, the environment, etc.
So, rather than bury our heads in the sand or move to Australia, it's time to ratchet things up a notch and get busy.
4 more years, but not one day more beyond that.