So it looks like it is all approved: http://bma-mtb.org/valmontbikepark/
Looks like it'll be sweet!
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So it looks like it is all approved: http://bma-mtb.org/valmontbikepark/
Looks like it'll be sweet!
Of course they build something on Valmont after i leave. Looks interesting. Hopefully they got some nice stunts
Pretty stoked!
Maybe King's Ridge real estate gets a bump. Sounds like a cool project - I'll buy my brick.
Holy crap that's awesome. Stoked to see IMBA involved too. Bet yer ass I'll buy a brick...
Anyone know when the shovels hit the dirt? I'm not going to buy a brick but I'll donate some sweat.
aw shit!!!
according to the email I got: "The prairie dogs will be moved this fall, full blown construction is slated to begin in April 2009."Quote:
Originally Posted by squatch
"Epic singletrack".... :rolleyes:
But either way, its pretty awesome.
In the same vein, the illustration was funny. Perfectly flat bike path with a 40 foot high wall ride, 25 foot high ladder bridge to drop to flat, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan
I think I'd have better luck riding my bike off my roof into a tree.
Just bought my brick.
free? YES!!!!!
not free for me, I just spent $100. :(
;)
Looks like this is officially underway
Sure is . . .
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs538...._5538800_n.jpg
Got shown around the whole of the park today.
Its going to be off the hook.
Everyone was giddy with excitement.
I'm super serial.
Nice! I'm not (yet) into a lot of the types of riding that this park will offer, but can't wait to check it out!
Honestly one of the best aspects is that there is a wide variety of terrain. There are multiple pump tracks for different skills, same with the DJ's. The dual slalom looks uber-BA. The xc course is going to be incredibly fast and flow-y. Heck it even has some nice rockslab 1ft drops in it (with ride arounds). A 'cross course will be snaking through it all.
When is it ever going to open? I've asked many times directly to BMA and no one has even replied. I'd be fine if they just said "Maybe this winter" but no response is kinda pissing me off.
I honestly don't think that they know.
Some sections could be open "soon". However, there is concern that being able to go some places may cause some people to go into closed areas.
Unfortunately the poaching that has been going on has delayed progress due to the need to repair sections that were not ready for traffic. This has taken additional time and money that was to be put toward building other features.
Additionally they do not have the "behind the scenes" work dialed in. Appropriate signage. A work force to maintain. Do they allow two way traffic on the xc course etc etc.
I didn't realize just how much there is to think about. Keep in mind this is a city park. As much as we want it to open soon, they really can't go about things haphazardly. They aren't looking to make something like the lyon's DJ's. This place will be truly epic.
I believe (kinda making this up): The original budget was something like $800,000. The park keeps getting bigger and better and the cost is now $1.8mil. They are raising money as fast as they can, but its a very expensive project.
I heard a funny anecdote (paraphrasing):
The builders approached the managers after the first few features were built. They were all excited to show off their new creations and looking for approval. The managers shook their head and said it wouldn't work.
The builders stood there dejected.
After a pause the managers exclaimed:
It has to be At Least TWICE that size!
So that's the mindset that they have. Go big or go home. Its unorthodox for city park and I commend them for taking on the liability and not dumbing things down.
Looking at beasts' picture above. That's just one of the DJ lines.
There is a smaller pump track/ parking area / learning area behind the Camera man. The DS, 4x and Big pump + others track are all on the hill to the left (which has been made bigger).
The park extends all the way to the treeline you can see in the back of the picture. That farmhouse will be moved. Everything to the beyond the trees on the right (all the way to Valmont road, which is probably and additional 1.5-2x the area you can see in this picture) will be part of the xc / cx course.
That's fine, why don't they just say that then? I just keep seeing / hearing these "I got a tour, its awesome" reports and thinking its typical Boulder where you have the racer cliques that are "in" with everyone else on the outside looking in.Quote:
Originally Posted by XtrPickels
I'd just like BMA to be a little more consistent or forthcoming with information. This is a big deal, why not give some information out to all of us who have supported them and donated time and / or money to make this happen.
fair enough.
My info was not through BMA, FWIW, and I'm certainly not a racer-type.
I bet that if you/we/others voiced the concern regarding a lack of information in a rational manner it would be well received and perhaps could sway them to being more forthcoming. However, I will say that the BMA representative who was there with us was a spectator as well and learned quite a bit. I'm not sure of their involvement in a day to day matters and I feel like the "construction" company is divulging information in a "need to know" manner.
You may be right. Maybe I am over estimating BMA's involvement in the day to day. They may be spectators like the rest of us.
I've posed the question to BMA on their Facebook page, a very public and visible media, so we'll see if I get some sort of response out of that. I'd just like to have some expectation despite if its tomorrow or 2012.
Posed the when will it question to BMA's Facebook page on Friday. Lots of activity on their page, but no answer yet. All I want is some response, even if its "We have no clue"
BMA is almost entirely volunteer driven, and there hasn't been "lots of activity on their page", they have made one -- count 'em, one -- post since you posed your question. Moreover, as a BMA member (you are a member, right) and a facebook fan, you should know that the Sufferfest was this weekend. So they were a little busy, cut them some slack.
And as I understand it, BMA was (and is?) a fundraiser for the bike park, and is not directly involved with the park's construction.
I do realize the Sufferfest was this weekend, but this is not the first time I've posed this question without response so pardon my hastiness on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
If they are not the authority to convey this information, then it would be easy for them to say that, no?
You are right though, BMA has only made one post. I went to their homepage and just glanced and saw 4 or 5 new entries on their page, not realizing most of those were by other people.
So let me then correct myself and say "there has been activity" on their page but no response yet.
the best info I have seen is here: http://bikevalmont.blogspot.com/ the may and march blog posts. But I don't know how construction has been going, obv.
Those posts mention "Fall opening", which I think we can agree probably isn't realistic given its Mid-Sept now. Would be sweet if it was though. I'd settle even for another CX race so I could get a preview of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I'm quite excited for this park to open, would love to volunteer time and potentially more money to see it happen in the near future. I just am trying to get some expectation on when it is tentatively planned, just no one that I believe is qualified to tell me has even said "we don't know" which frustrates me.
Well I did get a response from someone in the know. Quite tight lipped on the matter, said that was by design for a reason I won't spread.
I'll drop the matter now.
The irony of you being pissed that they were hiding something from you, then you find out the answer and hide it from us!
Well let me clarify...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I didn't really find anything out. I was told they are purposely being quiet about it. Also, the person that I finally tracked down is not affiliated with BMA as far as I know, just happens to be someone I expected would know something. This person was quite adamant that what they did know they couldn't tell me (for untold reasons).
The only tidbit of information I got was that the contract with the construction company is over in February 2011. I also got an off the cuff response that it doesn't appear there is anyway it will be ready to go by the end of this year, way too much left to be done.
So going by the small pieces of information I've received and jumping to massive conclusions from that, I deem the park to open in late March 2011.
In the interest of fairness, I have had two BMA representatives contact me about this in the last 24 hours. BMA is currently working with all the parties involved to try to get some information about the park out to the public.
Made sure to swing by the park earlier in the week, I was amazed at the size. The sketch-ups are impressive but in person it was quite eye-opening. In the meantime, rather than sitting back and waiting for others to respond while busily trying to complete something we will all benefit from, consider THIS during the upcoming weekend.
BMA is doing grass seeding at Valmont this Saturday. You need to sign up through their website. Work until noon and get a tour of the park after with lunch
http://bouldermountainbike.org/
The decking has been going on the steel features:
http://bouldermountainbike.org/sites..._whaleTail.jpg
want....
That wooden log boner thing is pretty cool. Pretty sweet that they set aside so much land for bikes.
That looks like fun, if I wasn't so likely to hurt myself on it.
I have actually toyed with the idea of buying a DJ bike for it, but I think I'll see what kind of fun I can have on the 303 first.