Printable View
Every year my skiing progresses but I still feel like a yahoo in the air. I want to dial in a backflip but the only time Ive ever done them is off diving boards with my back towards the pool. I would appreciate some advice on trying to take steps towards getting comfy with inverts.
Im thinking of maybe making the trip to park city this summer for some water ramp fun, but if anyone has a cheaper suggestion Im all ears
1) Build a booter on a field of powder.
2) Drink Jaggermeister
3) Go off and point your tips towards the sky. While your laid out look up at your landing. Suck up your knees and land.
I post a pic later of Teton Pass back in the days of Neon.:rolleyes:
Find a good jump with a huge incline, smoke a joint, drink a 6 pack, point your tips forward as you hit the jum yourself back and if you fuk up at least your're high and wasted and it will be funny.
Gainers off a diving board help A LOT. You want to take an almost running start, small hop, jump and do it. Powder booters work well to, but you must commit. Gainers will really help you with your air sense and allow you to feel what a backflip feels like, so you will land it on snow or at least not hurt yourself.
hurl yerr carcuss ..hurt yourself...bake away your troubles
oh yea i feel really confident throwing fronts off diving board...make me want to do it on skis....oh yea by teh way...lawndarts are fuckgin hard and hurt when you hodl them too oong...and thats in a pool
I've got a lot of backflips that I'll never use. You're welcome to them.
I threw one off a stump - ditch in powder
landed on neck
saw stars...
things went grey (10 sec)
never done em' since
Cheaper?
Try the Lake Placid water ramps, $15 a day and all you need is a current health insurance card/helmet/mouth piece. We should get a crew together to go up for a few days during a week in July!!
$15! Holy shit, NY is too far away.
I am there.Quote:
Originally posted by kush1
Cheaper?
Try the Lake Placid water ramps, $15 a day and all you need is a current health insurance card/helmet/mouth piece. We should get a crew together to go up for a few days during a week in July!!
Let's pick a date.
Maybe get a campsite?
Hmmm. my mom lives in upstate VT...I might have to take a mini trip I visit this summer. Nice find. $15 well spent
yo kush...
lets pick a date soon.. i'm in albany for the summer.. 2 hr drive and i know plent of chill spots in that region.
you postive that is all it is?
i heard it still hurts even with the bubbles.. i have a hard time believing that, though.
If youre allowed to do daffys off the water ramps...Im in.
I could be interested.Quote:
Originally posted by kush1
Cheaper?
Try the Lake Placid water ramps, $15 a day and all you need is a current health insurance card/helmet/mouth piece. We should get a crew together to go up for a few days during a week in July!!
What did I do, oh yeah,
booter in back yard with big soft landing (neighbors thought I was crazy).
Trampoline practice helps too.
I'd also be interesting in the water ramp.
Here is the link with all the info........
As for a date I dont know when would be best for a lot of you, I was thinking something mid week.....mon-tues or tues-wed but who knows?
So somebody pick a date and lets get rolling!
edit: oh yeah this is what you need...
• Signed MacKenzie-Intervale Ski Jumping Complex waiver
• Current health insurance cards
• Helmet
• Life preserver
• Mouth guard
• Helpful hint: wetsuits are not mandatory but helpful.
• There is also a limited quantity of rental equipment available. Arrangements must be made in advance.
Call (518) 523-1655 ext. 250 for more information
• All athletes must stop at the ticket booth to pay fees, collect waiver and provide insurance information before entering the freestyle pool.
From some skier:
Fat don't fly
Some Fijian once said:
The more you eat, the better you float!
Rodeo to bellyflops are sick....
Hey Phunkybunch. When are you going to weigh in here on how to do it;)
I've done 3 in my life. Each time I wiped out badly. Maybe you should find some pool training time for it. :cool:
Hey douchey, when are you going to weigh in here and take another shot at somebody who goes for it and occasionally crashes?Quote:
Originally posted by TJ.Brk
Hey Phunkybunch. When are you going to weigh in here on how to do it;)
I've done 3 in my life. Each time I wiped out badly. Maybe you should find some pool training time for it. :cool:
Oh, right. ;)
:D That was my thinking when I read the subject.Quote:
Originally posted by 3o3
I've got a lot of backflips that I'll never use. You're welcome to them.
does it feel a lot different with all the extra weight attatched to your feet when you actually do it with skis on?Quote:
Originally posted by SLSki
Gainers off a diving board help A LOT. You want to take an almost running start, small hop, jump and do it. Powder booters work well to, but you must commit. Gainers will really help you with your air sense and allow you to feel what a backflip feels like, so you will land it on snow or at least not hurt yourself.
Yeah. The weight of the skis & boots plus the rotational inertia of the skis definitely slows down your rotation.Quote:
Originally posted by hot_sauce
does it feel a lot different with all the extra weight attatched to your feet when you actually do it with skis on?
The upside is that you can use that weight to slow your rotation down (by "opening up" AKA "un-tucking") if you start to over-rotate.
i wish there were $15/day water ramps around here... the facility they are building in Gapestone will be cool but expensive
makes senseQuote:
Originally posted by phUnk
Yeah. The weight of the skis & boots plus the rotational inertia of the skis definitely slows down your rotation.
The upside is that you can use that weight to slow your rotation down (by "opening up" AKA "un-tucking") if you start to over-rotate.
Seriously they are easier than 3's just a little scarier, just look back maybe throw your arms back too and tuck your knees if the jump isn't too big. Try learning gainers off of diving boards, that will be the key
backs are not easyier than 3s, no way man. i learned my first 3 when i was 12 and still havent mastered the back yet. of course our snow isnt the stuff to be failing on for backs if you know what im saying. i think 7s are up there with backs. landed my first 7 this winter and boy oh boy was i smiling from ear to ear. on another note sometimes i just go out there ans say f$%k it, and then throw my body into the air and see what happens. sometimes good stuff, and sometimes not so good stuff.
Once you get it dialed I think throwing a back would be easier than a 7. I usually end up so off axis by the end of a 7 I might as well go for an invert in the process.
I'm another total suckass gaper with backflips. I can throw fronts and even stalled out lawn darts, but something about gainers doesn't click with me. I think the whole frontflip thing is a lot easier. Even if you land totally inverted in soft snow your rotation will help you pull through it.
I would second the diving board idea. Or even try to throw gainers off cliffs into water. It gives a much better idea of what it feels like.
Don't kid yourself, it still pretty easy to fuck yourself up from crashing in the bubbles if you don't land on your feet. I've seen chipped teeth, torn rotator cuffs and concusions.Quote:
Originally posted by pointedem
i heard it still hurts even with the bubbles.. i have a hard time believing that, though.