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Here we go again. Same old schit again. Dems are going to turn Ohio into another 2004 Florida.
Kerry spokeman: "Inapproriate call in Ohio. We are challenging all the votes untill they are counted" AP :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
So in otherwards folks. This board will continue to be more about politics instead of skiing. No matter how killer the early season freshies the brothers/sisters in the west are getting. More crap will take away from the stoke. :(
Especially with choice ass threads like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ.Brk
BobMc
Do the democrats still want to change it so the popular vote is what determines the election and not the electoral colleges? What an exciting race. Looks like we're going to have to wait it out 11 days before we know, though.
Edit: Do you think the president should be elected based purely on popular vote? I mean, that's what a democracy is, right?
Yes I do think it should be done by a popular vote. And yes that is a democracy. Unfortunately I voted for Nader. He didn't even carry 1% in most statesQuote:
Originally Posted by swiss powda
At least Blurred lives in America... who cares who you voted for, unless we decide to invade Canada next.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ.Brk
Democracy is the desired illusion, however, we happen to reside in a Republic
(now with atleast 50 million disenfranchized voters :cussing: With all branches of the government in unequivocal control of one party, we really have less in common with other democracies and more in common with those beacons of enlightenment like Russia and China! So :fuckyou: I'm going to go ski Fresh! :the_finge So much for 10 charactors!
Wait one damn second here ... how is a moron ex-jarhead expatriate residing in Canada allowed to vote in a U.S. election?Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ.Brk
expats can vote by absentee ballot in the US jurisdiction they were last registered in
That is one of the most moronic statements I have heard in a long time. Mine and your political leanings may not be in line with the majority (and that majority may be as slim as 51/49%) but this country politically has nothing in common with countries like Russia and China.Quote:
Originally Posted by Svengali
This country is not a democracy, it is a representative republic. The electoral college serves the purpose that it was set out to serve in the Constitution, and it's not going away anytime soon. The people have spoken with their votes as far as the Congressional elections go.
Questioning the leadership of the country in an informed and educated manner is fine with me, but comparing the administration of this country to that of Communist countries is neither of those.
The person I voted for got even fewer votes than Nader.
Teledave,? what part of my statement did'nt you understand
"Democracy is the desired illusion, however, we happen to reside in a Republic "
My comments regarding Russia and China serve as a parallel to those who believe it is good to have one party in charge of the whole shitting match
Communism is/was an unrealized ideal, an illusion if you will(also an economic system and not a form of government)------just like Democracy(a form of goverment;here we practice the economy called"capitalism" aswell in china and russia) is in this country-----For this country to truly be Democratic the voter must have a direct and uninhibited path to the top------
enough already----I think you are arguing semantics----our statements really are not that far apart!
Svengali, I agree with what you are saying about the one party in control issues. I really think we should just get rid of parties altogether; or have 4-5 viable parties rather than the 2 we have now. All the 2 party system does is polarize the population. You are right I think we are arguing symantics and our views are probably not that far from each other. I will say that I found the comaprison to Russia and China inflamatory and that's what really drove my response.
See you on the snow, maybe they'll have the election figured out by then.
(Edit: No more politics for me today, it is done.)
I hope a court battle for the Presidency is not in our future. I would like to see a the electoral college stay but it wouldn't be all or nothing. The electoral votes would be divided based on the percentage of the popular vote for each state. This way when a state goes 51% to 49% to a candidate the 49% of voters could still be heard. I doubt this is likely to happen though.
And John Henry (owner of the Red Sox) is making his personal jet available to the Dem. lawyers to get where they need to go.
Dave, who did you find to vote for that got less votes than Nader? Lyndon Larouche? Seriously, I'm curious.
Michael Badnarik-Libertarian
FWIW, if Bush hadn't been projected as a strong winner in TN I would've voted for him as the lesser of the 2 evils that were the Rep. & Dem. candidates.
Edit: i wint to publick skoolz and don't spel so guud
the green rainbow party got 1/3 of a percentage in mass. woot.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Candidate(s) Office Votes Percentage
David Cobb/Pat LaMarche President/VP 11,012+ 0.39%
http://www.green-rainbow.org/grp_logo.gif
why is the rainbow only green. that makes no sense.
Are you sure it's not the green slash rainbow party?Quote:
Originally Posted by basom
'Cause an all-green rainbow would be spooky.
Maybe that's why nobody voted for them. Too spooky.
Pat Paulsen. Oh wait--I guess he's dead now.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Yeah, right. You voted for Fullmer, admit it ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by teledave
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Is Schilling the co pilot?Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
I'm gonna dip my toes in the water here and ask a somewhat serious question. I see on various sites that nothing is really determined yet and Ohio might take days to give the final tallies. I realize this sort of thing went down last time and I realize the States is a very big country but...what's up with that? I mean, how big are the polling stations that the votes can't be counted overnight? I've worked elections here in Canada and we don't leave until all ballots have been recorded. Granted, the States are 10 times as big, but shouldn't that correspond to 10 times as many people working the election? Count, add, report. Am I missing something?
I understand that sometimes things are tight and recounts are needed etc., but can anyone explain these long delays in results without using the words "moronic" or "hapless" or "clusterfuck?"
SaAaH (and honestly just curious),
d.
We are as polarized down here as any time since Vietnam. We don't like each other, and certainly don't trust each other.
We need the draft to really heat things up. Benny predicts that will be considered in '06. Sad to watch history go 'round and 'round.
That pretty much describes our entire governement workings, regardless of which group is in charge of it. If our governement had any kind of efficiency we'd be, what's the word, "unfuckablewith".Quote:
Originally Posted by gincognito
(Says the guy working for a quasi-govt. agency and typing on a message board at work.)
gin, it's the ballots that were cast by people who for some reason didn't show up on the voting lists in their precincts, for whatever reason. those people get to cast a provisional vote, but their vote is not counted in the inital tally. if the sum of these provisonal votes is greater than the sum of the votes the state is won by, as is the case in ohio, then they are counted. but as they are counted they are also looked at for validity, and many of them get thrown out at that point. it is a painstaking process that aparently will last two weeks. i heard earlier this morning that 93% of those votes would have to be for kerry in order for him to pull ohio. in past senatorial elections the highest percentage of these votes theat has ever been counted has been 17%. so its a shot in the dark as it seems to me.
While what you said before was correct, this last piece is moronic and completely wrong. Stop fueling inaccurate speculation done by morons who have no idea on the actual state of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane