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I was bouncing off rocks up in Revy back in December, and hit one with my FL105s that would have destroyed every other ski in my quiver -- along with most likely my knee -- but they kept on trucking. Slapped some ptex in there and back at it. Both the FR and FL are insanely well built.
I'll be curious to hear how you get along with them at -6. I'm trying to decide where I'm going to mount, leaning towards -7.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
I’ve had a couple pair of PMGear skis that came out of the Blossom factory and they are bomber construction. I imagine the HL stuff is too, top shelf quality.
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It’s gonna be awhile. I’m not sure I’m even going to be on these for at least another three weeks or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Iron Horse
I mounted my FR110s at -6. They are perfect there for me. I skied the og devastator for years and this ski floats much better. So intuitive and smooth, I can’t see a need for further back
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Originally Posted by Upinsmoke
Thanks! Yeah, trying to decide between -6 or -7. I've put the decision off too long, now just need to choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
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Originally Posted by Upinsmoke
I think the decision on where to mount should be most influenced by how you usually ski. A typical forward driver would mount around -7.5- -8, a more centered approach would be around -6 to -5. It'll float anyway. [emoji846]Quote:
Originally Posted by The Iron Horse
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Both size Devs skied best mounted around there too imhoQuote:
Originally Posted by Upinsmoke
Quit over thinking it an go -6.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Iron Horse
(That's what I did, and I'm happy with the decision).
Anyone have time on BC110s? Anyone want to sell me a pair hehe
Now that's an idea I can support.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I missed the boat on the 186 FR110, any idea when you're gonna do another batch of em?
I am trading Pluffenmeister out his FR110 for a pair of R110, so I will have a single pair for the rest of the season… pm me if interested!Quote:
Originally Posted by phil_dirt
otherwise, preorder for fall deliver will open in 6-8 weeks
Marshal please give the R110 a fresh topsheet if you do a production run next year. For those of us that might end up owning both FR's and R's.
Interesting!Quote:
Originally Posted by cocoapuff
I was originally thinking to do same topsheets, but I can see your point.
Easy enough to spool up.
I think the big thing is what you are used to and how you weight your feet as they relate to the rocker profile. Happy to talk it though (ie height, weight, BSL, ski history, etc) and help.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Iron Horse
Thanks, Marshal. I'll shoot you a message shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
Are people drilling these with 3.5 or 4.1?
4.1 (and tap if you have one and want to make your life easier)
The more I ski everything else, the more I think I need FR110's in my life.:o
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Originally Posted by SnowMachine
yes, yes you do need them. Barrel of monkeys as a ski, tons of fun!
That’s the same conclusion I came too….and I have Renegades, Hojis, Optics, Whitewalkers….Quote:
Originally Posted by SnowMachine
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How does this ski fit in a quiver? I travel for skiing so I don’t have super fatty, all my skis are somewhat versatile. Possible over lap if your pow ski is a jeff118? Thinking these 2 with a low tide ski
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Putting my 193s on a plane this afternoon if my flight's not cancelled, so we'll see how they travel. Looking forward to sharing my field notes. Stoked!
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Awesome! Can't wait for your report!Quote:
Originally Posted by bry
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PnC, I travel for skiing as well and so am trying to get my quiver tight and versatile. In my resort stash, I'm down to two, the FR110 and the Armada ARG II UL, so basically, the FR110 is my travel DD. I read earlier in this thread a mag posted that the FR110 floats almost as well as the Nocta (take it FWIW) and so that prevented me from buying a resort pow ski in the 115-125 range. The ARG is obviously a super pow stick.
I usually go out west so for the time being, don't have a dedicated low tide resort ski. I would probably add a low tide ski that doubles as a technical/spring tourer to my touring quiver and just use it in the resort on the occasion where I've brought both that and the FR110. My current touring DD is 100mm so can use that in the resort too (again, on the odd occasion where there is literally no fresh snow).
Curious on how you setup your quiver, resort vs touring and maximizing usage across both.
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Originally Posted by PeachesNCream
Yeah, that’s kinda what I was thinking, the FR110 would be paired best with a pow ski like the 132/arg/protest for a 2 ski quiver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pins and Skins
I’ve got the deathwish104, kartel116, and deathwish tour. When I travel I pick 2. If I’m going to tour I take the dwt and then one of the others based on if I think it’ll be low tide or not. Either are pretty versatile if my snow guess is off. If I’m not touring, I obviously take the two resort skis. Buuuut I also like your approach of versatile ski paired with true pow ski. But im a prefer “in the snow” vs “on the snow” so I’m happy with the kartel116 if it truly gets deep. I’ve been thinking of replacing the dwt with something lighter/skinnier/shorter for touring. Thinking along the lines of line vision or a size smaller 4frnt raven/wildcat108 tour. /thread drift
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I disagree. The FR110 is a great powder ski. If you can’t ski pow on a fully reverse camber 110mm underfoot ski, it might be time for lessons. If I travel I take two skis as well, something like the HL 87 comp for low tide and FR110 for everything else. YMMV
Okay, good to hear another opinion, that’s why I was asking. I can ski a fully reverse just fine but thanks for the concernQuote:
Originally Posted by Upinsmoke
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Yah, I don't think we're saying the FR110 is poor in powder. Quite the opposite, think we recognize it's a great powder tool AND it's quite versatile in most non-pow scenarios. My question is what else do I bring along with the FR110 (which is basically the cornerstone of my quiver).
If I'm resort/mechanized only and there is pow: FR110 + ARG (I'm almost never resort/mechanized only)
Resort/touring and there is pow: FR110 + powder tourer
Resort/touring and there is no pow: FR110 + DD tourer
Could add in a spring/low-tide/tech tourer in there too, but would be specialized in use I think
Intersting conversation!
in my mind, the FR110 is a soft snow daily driver. Does really really well in true pow, cut up, wind buffed, slabby, spring corn, soft groomed, etc
In my experience, it’s limitation is on snow that is hard enough that a 110mm ski is just as limiting as the rocker profile.
Yep, that was what I was trying to articulate but apparently failed.
FR110 punches above its weight
I think we're all saying the same thing, FR110 is your soft snow swiss army knife!
Velvety smooth day one out therehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...39173faf9f.jpg
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Dr.Forward@Blister had posted his initial thoughts:
https://blisterreview.com/flash-revi...age-lab-fr110:
Quite positive, I might add.
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I know they're rad. not going to pay blister to tell me.Quote:
Originally Posted by arild
Lol
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All Blister really does these days is try to sell accident insurance….every new ski review segues into a “close call” or crash story where Jonathan gets hurt and needs insurance. Anyone else getting irritated by that?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
I know skiers can get hurt…but definitely not as much as they imply. You can tell they’re only doing it to increase revenues.
Re the FR110….I’ll get mine mounted this week. Can’t wait to get on them.
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mounted mine yesterday, maiden voyage tomorrow. woot!Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
All right so I mounted mine -1.5 from rec, -8 or 88.75cm from the tail (193s). Been skiing at Alpine. Snow has been great. Cold out and soft snow skiing.
These ski relatively short for their length, like the FL113s which I also think ski short, but moreso given the rocker profile and tail. Super nimble for 193, imo, but not greasy per se. Awesome on edge vs what I was expecting but haven't had them on ice or firm.
I have only been skiing skinny skis until this trip, 88 underfoot max. So I was pumped to drive these guys and not just park and ride. These feel relatively light too, for the size. I could ski slow behind my kid and bang out super tight turns alarmingly easily.
As my kid's been taking breaks hanging with gramps in the lodge the last cupla days, I've taken about 10-12 laps off Summit chair and I think think these planks are the perfect compliment to the FL113, or any other beefy chargers for that matter.
Steep softish bumps were totally manageable and if I lost any balance I was able to recover no problem. I only got gassed when making big airplane turns, which happens with all my skis for the most part.
I can see these being a great western daily driver option for sure if you ski mostly off piste. I like grabbing the squads and cochise usually because they make everything seem so quiet and easy, but these will steal a significant share of time across the board.
I can't get enough of the quiet smooth feel. The mount point felt great too. I ski the squads and 193 MVPs at -8. The MVPs tail can wash out sometimes at that mount point and I've considered bumping them up back up to the original rec for that reason, but I don't get that on this ski. The tail is there, which I like.
I also had Velo take them out for a half hour or so and here's his notes:
"I took them out on summit and from my first lap into the blacks and avi debri and they were very intuitive. Switched back to Katanas later on and couldn't ski any better.
They were easy to ski, loose and playful, stable bc they're long. Core layup felt good and they had great edge hold.
Skied shorter than I expected, and thinner. Felt like a 190 105 Salomon or something.
Only thing I'd change is maybe go back -1cm, I felt a little tail behind me bc 193cm and progressive mount. I could easily get used to that though. I want a pair."
Enjoy mags, I surely will. I think if you are looking for a ~110 or a versatile resort pow ski you should give these a hard look or roll the dice and just get them, it's a safe bet you'll be stoked on them.
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