Well, quoting some garbage saying most Irish are redneck racists is like me quoting something from the kkk to prove a point to you. Racism goes both ways sister. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bklyntrayc
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Well, quoting some garbage saying most Irish are redneck racists is like me quoting something from the kkk to prove a point to you. Racism goes both ways sister. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bklyntrayc
After reading the history lesson above, I have to wonder, why is it that regardless of where they lived, the Jews have managed to make it a habit to piss off their neighbors so much as to bring them to genocide.
I'm not an anti-semitic nazi...just a curious amateur historian trying to figure out why someone can be so freaking hated.
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Originally Posted by ski_adk
Or maybe you have it the other way around and that their neighbors feared their hard work, industriousness, and willingness to stay close as a community. :rolleyes:
Any amateur historian can figure that out.
On while we are on the subject, I think many of you need to go back and read splat's post at the top of this page. I am mildly appalled as a Jew of some of the statements put forth by maggots that I thought I respected. A little sensitivity here and there to a very sensitive subject could go a long way. Maybe opening up your eyes, learning about other cultures, and not jumping to conclusions (which I am guilty of too) could go a long way to starting a better understanding of why this is such a heated and emotional topic.
What is also especially scary is how much of some of you need to be reminded of the HOLOCAUST. This does not bode well for mankind as those few survivors who remain, are getting up in years and soon we will have no living people to remind us NEVER TO FORGET. i think it is time that some of you a) went to the holocaust museum in D.C. or b) watch Schindler's List or the Piano and then tell me why you believe that the Jews shouldn't feverishly protect their right to exist.
Fixed it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by fattwins
When you are tossing around "camel jockey" to make your point, it's ironic that you want to tell me "racism goes both ways". Where are you planning on taking the readers of your posts when you 'go there'? Is it for shock and pushing buttons, or do you really believe it wholeheartedly?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
My point was, your saying "I'm Irish" is not a pass to say your family was not complicit in what went on. It could also mean your ancestors were plantation owners. The Irish Echo can hardly be compared to the KKK as a source of racist info, but whatever. I'm getting that brick wall feeling.
Since this is so far off the point, I'm going to concede that we're not going to get close to a full understanding of this issue in the mist of a thread on the lack of peace in the Mid East.
This topic brings up alot of things but it is about time the news reported the true nature of the region. We are finally getting more balanced coverage of the facts. Terrorism depends on the side that you are on. the arab family that sits at home and gets blown to bits is collateral damage. reverse the situation it and its terrorism. both sides use terror tactics and guess what its not working.
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Originally Posted by bklyntrayc
Protestants as far as I'm concerned they are English, invaders even. Also the part that was left outQuote:
The first wave of large-scale Irish immigration to the New World was not that of the famine era; it came, instead, in the shape of an earlier generation of predominantly Northern Protestants whose successors have tended to identify themselves as Scots-Irish or Ulster-Scots rather than Irish-American. Their values provided the bedrock for what would become derisively known as the "redneck culture" of the American South.
I think there must be some Dominicans or Haitians running around that owe me. It's ok I let it go.Quote:
In discussing the links between Irish Americans and African Americans it is always easy to oversimplify history. There have been Irish people on both sides of the slavery's coin -- some historians have asserted that during Oliver Cromwell's reign in the mid 17th century, up to 130,000 Irish people were sent into slavery. Most of these were sent to the Caribbean
You'd have to go find them in Spain or France, they went back home in the early 1800s. Most Irish prisoners ended up on Barbados, but then you'd have to take it up with the English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuckerman
Good I already have issues with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by bklyntrayc
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Originally Posted by fattwins
You are not even close to being right. You are forgetting(or selectively ignoring) the fact that the terrorist's are targeting civilians. Israel is dropping leaflets telling civilians to stay away from certain targets. This is all over the news, how have you missed it? If you haven't missed it, how can you draw a moral equivelancy between people who target civilians and those who try to avoid civilian deaths while accomplishing a military objective?
Bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeatPuppet
Israel has a long history of shelling civilian populations and refugee camps. That you chose to ignore if or declare it legitimate goes to root of the problem.
translation: i've got nothing.Quote:
Go fuck yourself Dexter. Really. Go Fuck Yourself. Play the motherfucking cowardly racist bullshit card somewhere else asshole.
Funny how the Israelis I know are 1/10th as ideological and 10x as pragmatic as all the ProIsrael Americans.
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Fuck you and your anti-semitic tone. Go the fuck away until you learn what you're talking about and drop the blindly partisan pro-Palestinian bent.
Which is generally referred to as 'returning fire'. it's not israel's fault that the palestinians place their bomb factories and rocket bases, deliberately, in the midst of civilian centers--similar to during the intifada when they would shoot and throw stones from behind walls of women and children, guaranteeing good propaganda when soldiers returned fire.Quote:
srael has a long history of shelling civilian populations and refugee camps. That you chose to ignore if or declare it legitimate goes to root of the problem.
I really do have nothing Dexter - I've been accused by 3 people, who've never met me, of being a racist based on a few paragraphs of website drivel. I'm not, and my Jewish friends certainly don't think I am. Sad on so many levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
There, you've won your pyrhic victory and another enemy Dexter - I hope you can see the paralells.
"Can't we all just get along?" Rodney King (The guy who got his ass kicked by the LAPD)
you mean the war started by the ever peaceful arab countries when they again tried to wipe israel from the map? how did the palestinians work for peace back then, dipshit?Quote:
You mean the 1973 war? When US & Russian threats of escalation to full on nuclear war enforced the cease fire?
And you've got your facts wrong again. learn the history first before you try to tell others about it, moron.
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Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Sure, when they have reason to believe terrorist's are being sheltered there. The message: If you shelter terrorists, you will die. Sounds like a good message to me. Again, the intent was to kill those who mean Israel harm. Not innocent civilians.
Again, fuck off. your agenda is implicitly anti-semitic, whether you like to admit to it or not. What's deplorable are the lies you present as fact.Quote:
I'm anti-semitic because I disagree with you? Wow. That's deplorable Dexter.
FYI...that was the Israeli Mossad dressed up like LA cops.Quote:
Originally Posted by enlosandes
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I heard that as well! The guy who told me swears it's true. He also told me that Rodney King was of Palestinian descent.
So, during the past several months, where were all you even-handed types condemning the palestinian and hezbollah violence? Kinda slipped your minds, i guess. Always interesting how it's only when israel has the gall to defend itself that we get a big reaction--apparently some civilian life is more valuable than others.
Strange that a country that's very earliest history is one of terrorism and thats greatest national heroes were terrorists is so unable to understand the cause of hatred against it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
True to form you will now mistake my dislike of Israel and it's behaviour as being anti-semitic. Then someone else will blame me personally for Britain's role in in Palestine in the 30's and 40's :rolleyes2
Another misrepresentation. presenting israel's earliest history as one of terrorism is hugely misleading, and in fact those who did advocate terrorism were quite controversial. irgun strikes against British targets in Palestine are hardly the equivalent of Arab suicide bombers.
At least you do admit to a dislike for Israel, though--but you may want to have a more even, honest background for that dislike before believing everything you've been told.
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http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=264610
Considering your own blinkered biased arguments here really that's fucking funny!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
You have no idea of my background or first hand experiences of the region and its protaganists :fuckyou:
katusha rockets don't compare to F16s and missles
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Originally Posted by KQ
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Originally Posted by KQ
Ahhh, yes, our fundamentalist friends. Yeah, they are a little nuts.
Nor did i say anything about it, but i was referring to the bias and selectivity of what you present--again, though, you have admitted to your bias, which is at least honest. Palestinian and Syrian history books are notoriously inaccurate regarding Israel, though.Quote:
You have no idea of my background or first hand experiences of the region and its protaganists
As I've never supported Israel's past 'colonial' projects, I don't see myself as blindly pro-Israel--I've been called worse names by israeli rightists than anything I've been called here (so far), but I also believe in being fair and realistic.
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Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
Most of us believe in being fair and realistic and don't see ourselves as being blindly anything. Perhaps you would consider that before labeling others next time.
if it looks like a rose, smells like a rose, and has red petals...
I think he's talking about our minutemen. regardless, it's a ridiculous assertion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
The palestinians are getting exactly what they deserve. By electing Hamas it was a question of when, not if they would soon face the wrath of Israel.
Everyone knows how I feel about this issue and I have disagree that the Palestinians are getting what they deserve. They are and contnue to be the biggest losers in this. They for too long had to live under Arafat regime where nobody was looking out for their interests. The ineffectiveness of Fatah is what led to the election of hamas...
And when has any other Middle East nation cared about the Palestinian people except for a means of poster-childing them as sufferers of the Israeli regime? They are pariahs and have suffered through the entire history of this struggle.
What PWNBrit fails to realize is the asymmetry between what the Israelis do militarily and what Hamas, Hezbollah do in the name of terrorism. The Palestinian jihadist purposefully put their own people at risk to create collateral damage, while simultaneiously going after "soft" targets in Israel.
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indeed!
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Currently in Pennsylvania, future in Heaven.
favorite post:
Lets all cheer for Jesus. (with cute little pom-pommed emoticons)
yes folks, this is what sane people the world over have to deal with. for those who have completely given up on worldly existence en masse, the exploson of chaos and war is the desired PROOF that they will be saved, be it by jesus, allah, etc.
as i always say ref these kooks. IF YOU FUCKS ARE SO INTO 3000+ year-old teachings directed towards an illiterate and superstitious people who rarely lived past their 30s - what are you doing using modern technologies - born of a secular world view you hate so much and WHY ARE YOU STILL ALIVE?!?:cussing:
sorry, that mssage board had me needing to vent:rolleyes:
peace(?)
You have apparently not watched the Left Behind videos, KQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
Best line in the movie: Gary Busey tells his son, "You don't know what you're doing." The son answers, "I'm not the one with 666 tatooed on my forehead."
I'm waiting til Sunday, by which time Pat Robertson will have talked to God, tell us who is right - and who to kill. Besides Hugo Chavez.
salt the fields Dexter, salt the fields. enjoy the victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
I'll accept Pat Robertson's diatribe but only if he wears a FKNA T-shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
Hey, you both are named Pat, correct? (insert TWILIGHT ZONE music here)
coincedently, crude oil prices hit a record high yesterday. peace in the middle east is bad for bidness
The fields were only bearing explosive belts and rockets already, so no salt required. The inculcation of the young with hatred of Israel is largely independent of anything Israel does or doesn't do, to pretend otherwise is fantasy.