I agree with the saying don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, but this is his 4th DUI since 1999 and at least the 2nd time he's tried to run from the cops- not cool.
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I agree with the saying don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, but this is his 4th DUI since 1999 and at least the 2nd time he's tried to run from the cops- not cool.
4 dui's is fuckin dumb. Coming from someone who got a dui in 2008. I never drink and drive anymore and nobody got hurt. It was a real shitty experience and something I will never go through again. Once should be more than enough for a rational person. Nobis is showing that he is immature and irrational as he apparently can't make smart decisions when he drinks. I really don't understand what goes through someone's mind when they have 3 prior dui's with other charges and still can't resist driving home and running from the cops. Were none of his friends there to stop him? Not passing judgement as I'm no where near perfect, but at some point it needs to stop. To get 4 dui's in 11 years he probably drives intoxicated pretty damn often. Thankfully no one has been hurt or killed. If he doesn't stop it's bound to happen. Best of luck to him and his dealings with the law. I have a lot of respect for Mr. Nobis and I hope he is able to overcome whatever is causing him to disregard the safety and well being of those around him and himself.
I have a very good friend who has had 2 DUIs. The first one was the dumb/standard DUI driving home from the bar. Everyone makes mistakes. I probably deserved one of those too.
For the second one we were having a going away party for another friend. We all stayed up late drinking (2-3am) and crashed. He got pulled for speeding on the way home the next morning (9-10am) and got a DUI. If he had stayed for breakfast or opted for that cigarette (covering up the beer smell) on the way home he probably would have walked. That is a raw deal, IMO. Guy does the right thing and spends the night and still gets popped on the way home. I guess he was still over the legal limit but it's not like he was raging it with open containers. Just heading home hungover. If anyone deserves sympathy for a DUI it's my friend, not someone who runs from the cops.
my friends in Ca ,used to get the cops to chase them on purpose(in the 70's);all they needed was some LSD and a street bike......PEOPLE SURE LIKE TO JUDGE ON HERE;YOU INTERNET JUDGES SHOULD all SKI IN BLACK ROBES.......anything can happen when you crack a bottle,even shit
Bullshit. Driving drunk is driving drunk. It doesn't matter if he slept for a few hours before getting in a vehicle. Hungover to the point that you blow dirty is still drunk. NO sympathy deserved AT ALL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubbs
Again, I've been guilty of the same thing many times. Also, who's to say he didn't sneak in a hair of the dog before going home.
this latest incident happened while he was driving to the party, not home.
This subject has been gone over a hundred times here on TGR, plus countless times in other media, and well meaning people still defend drinking and driving like it's a fuzzy area socially, or an ambiguous moral decision. Drinking, then getting behind the wheel is childish, stupid, and DUH, dangerous. Repeat offenders deserve serious jail time to limit the public's exposure to them, plus mandatory therapy. If you wanted to really be a twat about it, you could deem those with multiple convictions for DWI habitual, and dangerous offenders, and have them locked up until a judge rules them fit to re enter society.
Bet you'd see a lot more drinkers taking public transportation, or riding bikes.
I wonder how many times he's run from the cops and got away with it? :fmicon:
I doubt many people would say poor guy if he was a non skier - probably more like stupid fuck. Jeremy is an amazing skier, but the guy needs help, needs to lose his license, and needs to go to rehab. Maybe then he'll finally be able to grow up - or at least learn to call a cab. I wish him all the luck in recovering - people can do it, but only when they make the decision.
Would love to see him getting some segments again - damn he killed it!
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Originally Posted by baron
What do you mean by that?
Are you implying that sometimes things happen, and there is nothing you can do?
If so, I don't buy it. I have spent plenty of my life hammered, but I don't drive drunk. I think it is perfectly reasonable to expect people to have enough sense to not get behind the wheel.
If someone drinks to the point that they get behind the wheel regularly, that is an indication that maybe said person should not drink. If you have so little control of your behavior when drunk that you can't stop yourself from driving, then you need to stop drinking.
I know plenty of people that like to get obliterated. But they tend to be smart enough not to get behind the wheel, no matter how drunk they get. I don't think that is too much to ask.
Unfortunately it takes some people a long time to hit the bottom hard enough to realize they need to put the bottle down. I am gonna assume that this being his 4th DUI he will have to do some mandatory time. Hopefully he gets 12th stepped, and realizes its life or death. Seriously, he is gonna kill himself, someone else, or both if the man keeps drinking.
Again, I can't say he is really an alcoholic or not, but it sure looks that way.
What alot of people don't understand is that you don't HAVE to be drinking all day everyday to be an alchy. Plenty of alchys can only drink on weekends or take a month off every now and then, but when they do drink they get fucking HAMMERED.
I know cause I am one of those people. I haven't drank in over a year and a half, and its not like I struggle to not drink, but I know that if I had one beer there would be no way for me to stop until I passed out or died.
I hope Jeremy the best. Dude has some serious talent that he is pissing away.
He's likely on zero tolerance after multiple DUI so any trace of alcohol and he goes down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinner
Jeremy has made news twice this week.... http://www.whitedotusa.com/news.php
Fact of the matter he is sick, he has been sick with the disease of alcholism for many years. Many of us have reached out to him but he continues to not take the hands that have been offered him, these hands are still there if he wants them, but he is the only one who can make the decision to do what ever it takes to get sober. His way does not work & never will work. Hopefully this is his bottom,otherwise it is only going to get worse for him.
I made the the decision to get sober 6.5 years ago, was it easy? Yes & No, but it is the best decision I have ever made for myself. Accepting a sober lifestyle was the hard part, now living a sober lifestyle is the easy part.
Well, you're halfway there!Quote:
Originally Posted by DBdude
... for which you can also get a DUI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meanfruit
Glass is half full. The good news about alcoholism is that it is 100% curable. I'm not saying it's easy. It's not. Hopefully this guy comes to the realization that he has a choice.
People who drive with a BAC over the legal limit are the Webster's definition of an asshole. There is absolutely no excuse and they 100% deserve whatever is coming their way.
Dude. He didn't sneak in a hair of the dog on the way home. He partied with his friends, crashed out on the couch, and drove home the next morning. He was doing the right thing but obviously he didn't wait quite long enough. If I remember he was just barely over the legal limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by doughboyshredder
You are very high and mighty for someone who states you've been guilty of this very act many times. Yes, driving drunk is driving drunk, but you have to admit it was a raw deal. Does he really deserve NO sympathy AT ALL? And if you really feel that strongly maybe you should go down to the local cop stand and confess to your many drunken driving adventures and the fact you used to smoke the cheebs like it was your job.
Not a raw deal at all. He was drunk. Doesn't matter that he slept for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubbs
Not high and mighty at all, just pointing out the fact that he was still drunk. Around here they run ads warning against doing exactly what your friend did. If you get trashed until 3 am and then sleep for a few hours you are NOT sober the next morning, and if you decide to drive you are NOT doing the right thing.
It sucks to see this thread that I created 5.5 years ago, get bumped again. :frown:
Gidday all,
Spoke to Jeremy yesterday. His first words were "I'm sorry". That means fuck all if it's not followed by actions and I've seen loads of mates go the same way.
I reckon he's a massive talent and so hope he's hit bottom and is on the way up. Only time will tell. I'm standing by him because A) I'm a stupid fuck, B) I want to see him ride like he used too (not in the ride away from the cops at high speed sort of way) C) I don't want to see him kill someone or himself.
Good on you, Dots.
this tool is 41 fucking years old. it's over johnny, no one gives a fuck about him skiing anymore. fuck him in his fuck hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by dotsbitch
Sweet. Buttahflake on ignore.
apparently he blew a .26....
Only time I've seen Nobis off the mountain was at the 7-11 at the base of Big Cottonwood. He was buying a 12 pack of PBR and two bottles of Fiji water.
It was in the police blotter in this morning's paper.
Too bad he wasn't driving his avalanche down a 50 degree slope at 65mph, while hitting 30 foot airs....he might have gotten away from the cops. Bummer.
He's going to prison. That's black out drunk on a multiple offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Market
Not a good place to be running off the road at 100mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiing-in-jackson
Well, he will probably have the company of a few other extreme skiers in Rawlins...
show some respect, douche bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowcat77
So more than 5 years between DUIs, so probably no jail time from the DUI. But he has a host of other charges that could be jail time.
WY laws are fucking pussy. I have a friend who did 6mo in jail (reduced from 1yr for agreeing to alcohol counseling), lost his license for 2 years, 120 hours service, and $1500 fine for a DUI because he had a prior DUI on his record from 19 years before. Not saying he didn't deserve it, but in WY he would have 3mo suspension, small fine, and no jail or service.
Blow over 0.16 in CO and you are doublefucked and labeled a "persistent drunk driver"
Nobis' film segments have stood the test of time a lot better than Phish's music has.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
You've obviously not gone before judge Timothy Day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
and this is no ordinary DUI
haven't gone before a judge for anything knock on woodQuote:
Originally Posted by advres
Oh yeah, Judge Day is special- I did the drivers ed thing in WY to get out of a 1st time speeding ticket in Teton County, and since I couldn't appear in person he made me hire a local lawyer to represent me, which, as far as I can tell, goes against the way the law is written. Then he almost didn't dismiss the ticket, apparently because I didn't hire one of his local buddies to represent me. $200 extra bucks out of my pocket just to kiss his ass. Crook.
For my non accident completely cooperative DUI (had an out of state prior 10 years earlier), he made me go for a "review" at an in-town detox (which people say he has a financial stake in). Upon my interview I was forced into a program that I could not get out of. He forced me to blow a breathalyzer twice a day until my trial in a very limited window (morning and night). When I showed up late (5 minutes) for one due to my inability to get there (I lived in the village with no license and I had to get into town), I got arrested the next day when I went in to blow. He gave me a warning but I didn't get to see him until the next day so I spent the night in jail. Then I blew hot once due to fucking NyQuil (any trace alcohol is a violation) and was locked up for months awaiting my trial (which kept getting pushed back with no reasoning). The DA said NyQuil won't trigger the breathalyzer but I had witnesses to what I did and who I was with the night prior and still they didn't believe me.Quote:
Originally Posted by sftc
He made me quit my bartending job because I "was dangerous to myself and others" Even the guys at TGR watched over me and enforced a no alcohol policy for me. I was doing my shit, taking it like a man but he still felt the need to lock me up because he treats everyone like a fucking number, not a human being. Because of him I lived in jail for quite a while. He essentially ruined my then life. But thanks to him, I decided to bounce from that hell HOLE and move on with my life. Which now I couldn't be happier, except I don't get to shred the hole everyday.
Was I wrong to drive drunk? Absofuckinglutely. Did he take Sheriff Arpaio kind of "fuck you" attitude against me? Absofuckinglutely. Fuck that guy, right in the ass.
this 'test of time' you speak of, is it performed road-side?Quote:
Originally Posted by 131crew
Nobis, all the best.