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What about a Mitsubishi Evo?Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
Would certainly consider it based on its performance, but it looks like a mitsubishi... I kind of like the way the WRX hatchback looks, although I do think it looks like a toy. The evo I don't like at all. I'll give one a go though. I know it'll be fun to drive. Are they reliable and reasonable to maintain in your experience? That's where I'm looking to make up ground on the 964. Still not sure it'd be worth it. A part of me would rather have a 964 in the shop than a WRX in the driveway... But that's not the same part of me that writes the checks... lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by delco714
I had an 04 WRX non sti back in the day. Was in an Audi a4 1.8t prior to that. The Audi was well appointed interior wise, bit the WRX blew it's doors off. So fun to drive. I say go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
Sorry for the delayed response. I have been moving.
964s are going to hold steady for awhile. 85s with 100k+ miles are still 50k. They definitely aren't going to get cheaper. Unless there is a Yudge recession.
While the 964 is super cool, and all. The 997 is a far superior car, that you would enjoy more. 964 is a put in the garage car now. Ill have a 997 Turbo S, for a daily eventually. Insane performance. I'd like for this car to drop another 15k. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...5454/overview/
I'd get a 996 Turbo or a 997 Turbo with a manual, if I was looking for the next hot 911. If I wanted an awesome car in the 50s, it would probably be a 13 Boxster S. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...9785/overview/
STIs feel like a commuter car IMO, that has some pep. Not a huge fan of the boyracer look either. They also cost way more than they are worth, kind of like a Supra or something.
Just save and wait for this...hopefully...
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...py-photos-news
Pretty much, though on mileage it'll vary. Point being the engine is the car, without the engine running 996s and some 997s are under $10k as replacement itself is $20k+ through Porsche.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazderati
Thanks guys...
I think the WRX is out. I was trying to picture it in my mind this morning, and it's just not going to be the right thing. Between the plastic blah interior, being almost certain that any used one will have spent half it's life bouncing off the rev limiter, and the performance just not being "sports car-y" enough, it's just not going to be the right thing.
BD - I know everything you say about the 997 is true. I'm just stuck for not wanting one... But I'm going to go drive a few 964's and 997's back to back and see if I can talk myself into that idea.
Are there any other good AWD options I'm missing? Ferrari FF? lol...
Just noticed that the Golf R and Ford Focus now come with AWD... I'll have to give those a try... I think new ones can be had in my price range... (<$50k)
Getting warmer...
https://www.cstatic-images.com/super...016dee9806.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg_GAVA8VHQQuote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
http://wheels.acuteperformance.com/g...ormance-05.jpg
Duh....
Thanks! Looking into it.
Edit - didn't realize they'd dropped the manual at some point. Price point seems to be pretty similar to the 964. A 2009 with 93k is going for $43,5-. Newer ones are DCA and ~$75k.
R35 GTRs always had a Dual Clutch. The R34 was manual, but not road legal in the US yet.
50k can get you a good GTR.
The dual clutch is a deal breaker... I know they're faster, but that's not the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
If I were you I'd buy a 997.2, MY09-12, so you get past the IMS nonsense, get a larger and new 3.8L DFI engine. S model puts out 385hp and is imo a sweet spot that will be in high demand for some time to come. If you go 997.1 you still have fundamental problems with cylinders scoring and IMS. The main difference between 996 & 997 is the return of VW bug headlights; they put the same engine in the initial 997s. Know what you're buying meng.
http://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum...-2-engine.html
http://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum...lure-mode.html
I'm gradually warming up to the 997... not quite warm yet, but warmer... obviously the new engine, the facelift, and not paying for a 991 would be the main points there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bromontana
I used to own an STi. I think what you need to ask yourself is what sort of feedback do you like from a car. The STi was very very nimble and stiff (with that weight, 300 horses + Turbo), but it was a bit like driving a rocket ship. The best way I can describe it is being yanked in a one direction very fast instead of being pushed. I much prefer the feel of a naturally aspirated big engine. Don't get me wrong - they can be a blast. Very little turbo lag, cornered like it was on rails, and you could play with the power bias (front/back) which led to some fun. And it was actually practical. Hell, 4 doors, AWD, Japanese made. I'm 6'2'' and it wasnt cramped in the least. Great trunk space. Just comes down to what you want to feel when you turn the key.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
Hmmm, maybe I should get another....
Or a 996 Turbo, which is free of IMS issues.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...che_996X50.jpg
This is nice too.
https://www.cstatic-images.com/super...d37bc1b8ec.jpg
Odd question... is it possible to disconnect the turbo on a 996 and still drive the car for any period of time? Would prefer an NA car... Just wondering...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
That Focus RS is some piece of work, I want one. It's one of the few cars out there right now that I would trade my BRZ for but I'm diggin' the NA motor and rwd for now. Something about the Golf just doesn't do it for me, I know people love them but there's something so plain and vanilla that I just don't think I could do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
That wouldn't end well. The turbo flat six is low compression designed to handle higher pressure from forced induction, n/a motors are higher compression designed to handle lower pressure from intake gases but higher RPMs.
You could do what I did and drop ~20k on a clean 996 then remove the shit IMS and replace it for 3.5k with an oil fed bearing (same methodology used in the 996TT, GT3 engines*). My IMS will never break because there's nothing to break. I just need to closely manage a few things that certified p-car mechanics have defined.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j...724_102310.jpg
On the track it has modest body roll despite a stock suspension with H&R sway bars front & rear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_uPvhrz1YE
It doesn't matter if you get a WRX, 911, Cayman, Boxster or a Miata. All that matters is that the car delivers what you expect and you can comfortably enjoy it.
*https://www.oregonpca.org/resources/...he-full-story/Quote:
Further technical information
The [Mezger intermediate shaft] design has been retained with the watercooled 996 Turbo, GT2, and GT3 models as their engines are based off the same 964 engine case with the same internals as the earlier aircooled engines. This intermediate shaft features plain bearings (no ball bearings) that are pressure fed engine oil for lubrication and never fail. If these bearings wear out, the engine may develop a slight knocking noise due to increased running clearance, but this condition will never result in a catastrophic engine failure.
I think I've managed to talk myself into looking at a Golf R. Looks like one can be bought new for about $40k, with a lifetime warranty. Gonna go drive one this week... I like the interior...
http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sit...rior-seats.jpg
https://photos.stuttcars.info/312/__...039c9d1c57.jpg
I got to see a RWB 911 get built by Akira.
They look fucking sick.
I could rock this. Unfortunately, I don't have the balls to convert my 930.
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...03ac9f85ed.jpg
I saw the car that was built in this video too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53b6w1j89Hk
Cool looking cars... neat seeing the guy work.
What 930 do you have? Is it your personal car?
It's mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
87 Turbo with 33k miles. I got it on trade 2-3 years ago. Pretty sure I have posted this picture of it.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php...tureid=1633395
I don't think I'd seen that pic before... Nice car! The '87 is pre-G50, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
Its a G50 car.
Any other pics?
I started talking to a dealer around here about their Golf R. Looks like there are only a couple within a couple hundred miles. Going to line up a test drive.
Also debating whether I'm letting myself be too influenced by the warranty... Even if the Golf R ends up being great - and I'm sure it's a very nice little car - it's still just a little new and generic. Still struggling to give up the 964 idea - even though I know the prices are insane right now and it'll end up being a money pit where I live. $50k for a 100k mile car is asking for a disaster. Still not going away though...
What do you figure your '87 is worth right now? ~$175-200?
I've got a few more, Ill upload. It stays in a garage, down in FL.
I doubt I would get that much out of it. I took it in for 70ish I think.
I spent a lot of money, making it perfect.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php...tureid=1569869
FWIW - here's an '87 4-speed with 35k miles asking $135...
https://www.cstatic-images.com/super...11ccb9cb1a.jpg
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...4016/overview/
Did you swap in the G50 yourself?
The car came to me with the G50 done, and a ton of Fabspeed stuff on it. I took off all the Fabspeed stuff, and left the trans. Correct trans is what's on that car above.
Car needs to sit another 10-15 years.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php...tureid=1486711
I have Fabspeed plumbing on my car and its tits. Are/were you looking for OEM?
Yep. It came with all the OEM stuff, so I put it back on, and sold the Fabspeed stuff.
I'm hoping someone will pay 500k for it in 10-15 years.
Do you even intercooler bro?
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php...tureid=1633730
A couple years ago, before I put it on a truck to FL. It's been under a cover, ever since. Kind of a shame, but I can't afford to wreck it.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php...tureid=1633731
As if anyone ever wrecked a 930...
lol.
So, on a far less expensive note, I think I've managed to convince myself about the Golf R. I know I don't really want the Subaru (although a '15 STi Launch Edition might be next in line), the Focus market is insane ($70k at the dealer...), and I'm not going to skip buying a 964 for $50k just so I can get into the same kind of maintenance issues and expense on a $35k Audi, BMW, or Mercedes with 40k miles on the clock.
Unfortunately, I'm taking it on faith that the new R is actually faster and better balanced, with better AWD, than the last one. The last one was a nice car, but pretty uninspiring. I'm arranging a deal for one of two '16s that are about 500 miles from here for about $35k. It'll all be over except the signing before I get to drive it, so I'm hopeful, but a bit concerned. But with the Golf R market so strong right now (the local dealer already has deposits on his allotment of '17s), I figure, worst case, I'll buy it, drive it back here, and if I don't like it, I'll mark it up and sell it. And if its good I'll drive the factory warranty off of it and sell it in a couple years. It'll be a fun weekend regardless, and who knows what happens to the 964 market in the meantime. Maybe those go back to being $30k cars at some point. If it comes together, I could be headed to either AZ or KS on Thursday PM. We'll see.
http://www.jzmporsche.com/000146-1-l...-996-turbo.jpg
Buy this instead. No IMS issues. Will go up in value. Will be fun.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2441/overview/
Was gonna start my own thread, but this looks like the place to ask. I've done no research. So, I like to ride my motorcycle a lot, and I work 2 miles from work. I basically want the nicest car I can get for not very much money. Example, I bought a Navigator with 220k miles on it about 6 months ago. I'm not in love with it and now I'm thinking about picking this up, but I don't want to fuck myself with repairs and such, but my dad owned 2 Porsches and they were bullet proof. So, thoughts on this boxster? He says 7500 is the lowest he'll go.
http://pensacola.craigslist.org/cto/5670736110.html
http://images.craigslist.org/00v0v_4...hr_600x450.jpg
Maybe it's been covered already in here and I just need to look back.
Disclaimer: I'd buy that Boxster as a fun car all day long.
Contingency: With 150k on the clock the engine is on borrowed time. On the other hand, $8k is cheap as hell for a Boxster and as long as the engine runs you're ahead of the game.
Below is a reasonable example of what you're looking at if and when judgement day comes for the M96 engine. If you can handle that in stride over a 5 year ownership period then go for it. $15k sales price if you assume the engine will blow and you'll have to source and install a low mile engine from a reputable seller. All said $7,500 is crazy cheap for driving a car as balanced and enjoyable as a Boxster. Just remember, you're paying $8k because the engine has already outlived its life expectancy. If you can acknowledge that risk in stride more power to you. Good luck whatever you decide.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PORSCHE-BOXS...BWLTrh&vxp=mtr
You guys make fun of chevy avalanches and honda ridgelines, but not boxsters?
Jeezum, Porsche can't make an engine that lasts 150K today?
The 9A1 is a damn good engine (09+ Carrera, others). The Mezger dry sump (996 GT3, 996TT) is a damn good engine. Those will go 200k+ regularly. The M96/97 is a known weak point in the engine history of Porsche, but it helped them stay in business. Ymmv.
Looks like it's been sold...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
Regardless - I really don't like the 996, and would be concerned about driving it up here if it were an investment. I'm sure it's a fun car though. Seems like there are a bunch available... I'll think about it.
https://www.cstatic-images.com/super...726A9D2550.jpg
Ugh...
couple years ago about same time of year i watched a boxster burn to the ground in front of the neighbors. dark spot still in the road from the ashphalt melting. few of us quick ones already had drink in hand and chairs underarm to go watch it burn from the shade.Quote:
Originally Posted by guroo270
If I didn't have the AWD requirement, I'd be driving a Cayman already. I'd think that platform is probably the best bang for a sports car buck today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bromontana
That being said, buying an $8k Porsche will either be the best or worst way someone's ever spent $8k.