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Glad you feel better, very succinct argument you got there...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty1974
Out of 427 ski areas in the US you're worried about 1...seems a bit elitist to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty1974
Having skied Alta and boarded and skied Brighten, I couldn't, and still can't, figure out why boarders are butthurt over this, whiny little bitches!
Alta should have never done a combined ticked with the Snowbird.
Goodbye 'no shoes, no shirt, no service.'
This could be a real revolution. If they win this, then will any rules constraining any type of use on public lands will be deemed violating a "particular class of individuals from use and enjoyment of public land?" Mountain bikers, snowmobilers, ATVers, motocyclists, etc, etc. All those access rules are discriminatory.
don't forget Jack Jumpers, FKNA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-j1NPYyEiI
The really funny part will come if snowboarders are indeed allowed at Alta. Most skiers will probably just shrug their shoulders and the snowboarders will then commence complaining about how the terrain sucks and stick with shredding the bird anyway. Just a bunch of posturing that is a big fat waste of everyones time and money. Good thing BJ Leines' daddy has lots of it!
You expected a cogent argument?Quote:
Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat
"Snowboarding saved skiing". BwahahahahHahHahahahahahahahahahahHHahHahaahahahah ahahah!!!!!!! [Wish I could insert FOFL emoticon from mobile device]
you mean snowboarding ruined skiing...got more people on the hill.
now get off my lawn
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Originally Posted by telebobski
Don't be mad because you know it's true. Don't get me wrong all the great skiers would have continued crushing and I absolutely admire everyone of them...but all this X games stuff came from boarding>skating>surfing. You guys would still be doing daffy's, spread eagles and those 180 twist thingy's in tight pants or talking about how awesome ski racing is. We've been getting sh*t on and spit on since the start, all the while being copied in pretty much most aspects of the sport.
Most of my riding heroes are SKIERS..but I don't see any kind of hating coming out of their mouth like you see in that Alta video. I love skiing, just not most skiers.
Also I didn't need to make an argument since you guys were making it for me well enough. Honestly...I could care less about riding Alta..it keeps all the conceited skiers in one place.
So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty1974
I wish those tricks were still in style. Then maybe i'd be considered the best skier on the mountain. I can't keep up w/ all this flippy/spinny stuff.
fat storm headin' our way!!!!!
http://www.nsaa.org/media/68045/NSAA...ty-10-1-12.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by canwilf
It's not the bible, but this nugget is interesting.
Are the rates of collisions among skiers and snowboarders on the rise?
According to Dr. Jasper Shealy, professor emeritus at the Rochester Institute of
Technology in Rochester, N.Y., who has studied ski related injuries for more than 30 years, the
number of collisions accidents with other skiers or snowboarders accounts for only 6.4 percent
of reported accidents. Dr. Shealy’s research also confirmed that alpine skiers are three times
more likely to be involved in a collision with other people than snowboarders.
Is the number of ski injuries increasing?
No. According to Dr. Shealy, the overall rate of reported skiing injuries has declined by
50 percent since the early 1970s. The once-feared broken lower leg from skiing is now a thing
of the past, declining more than 95 percent since the early 1970s. The overall rate of reported
alpine ski injuries as of the year 2000 remains essentially the same as 10 years ago—2.63
reported injuries per 1,000 skier visits."
Similar to the national discussion on cannabis reform, it seems that some here may be overstating the terror of sharing slopes with snowboarders.
Wait...you think that skiing owes its survival to skittle kids and the X Games? Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty1974
http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/y...hing_chimp.gif
Is This the Preview for the New SBC film?Quote:
Originally Posted by irul&ublo
There are 3x's as many skiers as boarders so why shouldn't crashes reflect that?
I think you're misinterpreting the stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by freshie247
a new film has been released that covers all the gnar geriatric haters at alta called SLEEP!
A study presented at the NinthQuote:
Originally Posted by Bromontana
International Symposium on Skiing Trauma and Safety in 1993
indicated that 7.7 percent of all
ski injuries are the result of skiers running into skiers, while only 2.6 percent of snowboards.
I'm all for letting Snowboarder's on at Alta. But using research from 1993 is just stupid.
Probably different at each mountain but @ my ski hill I would put it at more than 3X skier/snowboard ratio.
For the record I have not one thing against snowboarders(1 of my main ski partners is a boarder).But I do think that snowboards are very limiting for anything but down. And as far as I'm concerned Alta can lick my unwiped sphinct, with or without boarders, so I'm not defending their policies. But BroM you're gonna have a hard time convincing me that more collisions happen to skiers out of anything but pure #'s, when snowboarders have their backs to 1/2 of the fall line. Just doesn't make sense. Maybe you're misinterpreting the facts, if those are really even facts at all.
FWIW, I've had more problems on the hill with other skiers than I've ever had with boarders, but that has more to do with slow traversing and not having proper etiquette to get the fuck out of the way when faster traffic is coming through or stopping and standing on traverse when traffic is coming through.
I'm sure it's been said, but skiing Alta is the first time I've enjoyed skiing a mogul field in 16 years. Moguls aren't my favorite thing about skiing, but there's no question snowboarding changes the terrain. I dig the idea of old-school moguls existing somewhere on the planet. Maybe you just ban boarders on a run like Bear Trap for the first 3 months of the season until the bumps take shape?
I think it's ironic that 98% of you don't even live in Utah. If you did you might not sound like the complete douche's you do. We have a saying around here. It goes......You don't shit in my backyard and I won't shit in yours. Problem around here is too many people who could give a shit about our mtns and our peoples have too big of say when it comes to those two things. You are all case in point.
Powdergoat. The only thing worse than some fucking tourists telling us what's best for our mtns is some douche who comes here for the winter, shits in our backyard then leaves. What's the saying.....Tribe Up.
Fact of the matter is Alta is a beautiful hill at the top of one of the most beautiful canyons in the world. It accesses some of the best BC terrain in the state. Currently Alta has used it's profits from leasing FS land to buy up surrounding private mining claims and has plans to expand into what is probably the most heavily publicly used part of the Wasatch. Access is important, whether it's access to a beach, a climbing spot, or a mountain. Now, if you stupid heads lived here you would fucking know that.
This post is relevant to this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBe
Whatever u say princess...Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBe
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Some questions here:Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBe
1. Is your brand of "complete douche" better than the others?
2. Why do Utard locals go around shitting in each others' back yard? Don't you have indoor plumbing.
3. Alta is locally owned, no? So are outsiders fucking the place up, or the locals?
4. Do you have a point buried somewhere in your inchoate diatribe?
This is exactly what a shit for brains idiot would claim as being the truth of the matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBe
Douchebag Bitches like you are the true Racists
Your backyard stinks because you're full of shit
You lost when Alta modeled its revenue stream around catering to those "tourists". That said, if they wanted to make it a "locals only" hill, I would respect that - after all its their business and if I really wanted to taste the manna, I could always move to SLC. Just like people who choose to use a snowboard can walk over to DPH and slap on some skis.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBe
I miss real bumps, you remember? the ones made by 200+cm skis? they made pulling 3s on the 180 lib easy
I so wanna poach it before all the 155s kill'em:nonono2:
I'll play. I lived in SLC for almost 10 yrs. Salt Lake is a fucking strip mall, crown burger fast food landscape of a city and the locals don't really ski. 90% of Utah ski "locals" came from somewhere else. Most people living up the canyon are 19-20 yr old dishwashers from New England or Michigan. Sandy is a white bread momo suburban hell full of neighbors waiting to narc you out if they see any sort of smoke emanating from your house.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBe
While Alta pow is world class, the terrain is pretty limited. 4-5 turns and traverse. Gets bumped out in the blink of an eye. You could be in tits deep pow and still getting core shots on rocks. Avalanche danger makes the real big mtn terrain one big cock tease.
I hear ya chirpin bro, but Alta ain't worth a lawsuit to go shred. Hit up Mt. Baker if you want to schralp balls deep pow in schfincter tightening terrain with your fellow snowboard brethren.
all that awesome skiing in washington and still an axe to grind. lol
made me laugh and surprisided he hung a whoppin "about" 8 years more than ROJ
sounds like he skied about the same terrain too.
lack of snatch?
http://instagram.com/p/jxH7Mmqi_j/
it sucks so bad that jeremy jones bought a bird pass yesterday!!!!!!!!
^ my roommate came home talking about that. Free media pass(es) :cussing:
Alta may be the most controversial piece of land in the USA.
Why ?
-no swimming
-no dog
-no snowmobile
-no building due to control of water
-no hot tub unless on sewer
-no voters due to no residents
-no snowboarders
-no walking on vegetation
-no going outside at certain times
-no driving for groceries at certain times
-no 2 wheel drive cars
The real discrimination seems to be against swimmers. Nearly everyone has the ability to put a foot in a lake but there nobody has the right because your toe jam makes the water harder to clean (never mind the oil in run off from lcc drive exploding engines)
People are stripped of many rights for many reasons and soory snowboarders yer just a drop in the bucket...
Did I forget to mention....forget to mention all taking place on everyone's land
Who lives in Washington?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Star
Which is really damn ironic because the reason the USFS owns/manages most of the land at Alta is because George Watson donated it to the federal government in the 1930's. It was this act that ultimately allowed the ski area to be formed.Quote:
Originally Posted by smuggs
If George Watson hadn't bought the mining claims at the Top of LCC and then turned them over to the feds, we wouldn't be having this discussion. There'd be one big fat open pit strip mine up there right now (which some of you make Alta out to be right now....)
...meanwhile over at the future snowbird ted johnson had the good sense to buy everything he could resulting in the longest ski season in utah!!!!!!!
if they can keep the boarders from traversing cross lane so much,they would be welcome...but I predict disaster city, for boarders learnin the terrain!...skiin off-line at alta can get u run over way fast.And,boarders get bogged in traverse..wo, high speed skiers, dirt,lookout!
This thread just faded away and its so entertaining
I miss the heated debates
"Shane, come back Shane"
agreed, where is the love/hate fest?
Why bump the thread if you don't have anything to add?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
In late June Alta asked US District judge to summarily dismiss the suit
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=30452977
Will be entertaining to see the reaction to the ruling