Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

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05-20-2020, 09:27 AM
Rideski

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Originally Posted by splat

I got a call from a maggot friend about 12 days ago who has been heading up a nationwide county by county count of cases for Johns Hopkins that is used for graphics like this risk assessment map in the NYT. He's extremely smart and nerdtastic for things like this. Not all the footnotes came through but red/brown indicates counties with the most underlying conditions for covid kill rates. Hawaii lookin' good.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphic...blurb-1200.png

I was waiting for someone else to ask because I’m kinda distracted over here and maybe not reading it right. But why isn’t there a bigger brick red blob on NYC?
05-20-2020, 09:31 AM
::: :::

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Originally Posted by Rideski

I was waiting for someone else to ask because I’m kinda distracted over here and maybe not reading it right. But why isn’t there a bigger brick red blob on NYC?

richer people & better access to health care near business centers?
look at the other financial center cities: chicago, boston, la, philly, miami, austin, seattle, etc
05-20-2020, 09:32 AM
The AD

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Originally Posted by Rideski

I was waiting for someone else to ask because I’m kinda distracted over here and maybe not reading it right. But why isn’t there a bigger brick red blob on NYC?

Because there are lots of wealthy and healthy people in NYC.

Wow, check out West Virginia. I guess residents of the "Mountain State" aren't doing a lot of climbing on those mountains.
05-20-2020, 09:41 AM
Deebased

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Originally Posted by DougW

I think your misunderstanding asymptomatic vs not requiring hospitalization. ~60% were asymptomatic, about 1% required hospitalization (7), about .15% died (1). A navy ship is not really representative of the general population at all.

The confounding part for the ship is the 1500 sailors who tested positive in May.

The ships should provide significant insight into susceptibility. Particularly when linked with choir practice.
05-20-2020, 09:43 AM
ron johnson

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Originally Posted by Deebased

Can someone summon Ron Johnson on this matter? He knows a shitload about data manipulation.

To what are you referring to?
05-20-2020, 09:47 AM
MultiVerse

That he respects your statistics degree from Koch-Brothers university.
05-20-2020, 09:58 AM
iceman

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Originally Posted by powdrhound

You should be feeling Great.
The other arrow is pointing deep into dark Red. Obviously the Lowest and Highest. Stay home and you are golden.

West Virginia on the other hand...
05-20-2020, 10:01 AM
XXX-er

The Border will remain shut for another month so you folks down there will be safe and I wouldn't be suprised if they extend it to 2 months
05-20-2020, 10:02 AM
schuss

Remember: if it inconveniences Core Shot and/or hurts his feelings, it's an overreaction to this. His ability to conduct himself however he wants is more important than your life or health.

Those are some...uhhhh....sources you're reading there.
COVID deaths are under, due to lack of testing, delay on long term care home reporting and Republican governors (not all) standing on the stats people to fudge the data. See the recent firing of the Florida GIS manager for being unwilling to change data.

We'll likely never get good data in the US other than state-level pockets.
05-20-2020, 10:03 AM
The AD

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

The Border will remain shut for another month so you folks down there will be safe and I wouldn't be suprised if they extend it to 2 months

I would be somewhat surprised.
05-20-2020, 10:03 AM
iceman

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

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Is that from regular breathing or coughing or sneezing? Just curious. Sure doesn't look like 2 meters does a hell of a lot though.
05-20-2020, 10:11 AM
ex-powderbroker

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Originally Posted by The AD

I would be somewhat surprised.

i don’t see any rush to open it on either side.
05-20-2020, 10:14 AM
Timberridge

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Originally Posted by iceman

Is that from regular breathing or coughing or sneezing? Just curious. Sure doesn't look like 2 meters does a hell of a lot though.

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea...-sfn051420.php
05-20-2020, 10:26 AM
The AD

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Originally Posted by ml242

i don’t see any rush to open it on either side.

But it's not the summer travel season yet. I have a feeling it's going to be difficult to extend the closure into summer. Could just be wishful thinking on my part, because I plan to travel to B.C. as soon as I'm able.
05-20-2020, 10:29 AM
DougW

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Originally Posted by Deebased

The confounding part for the ship is the 1500 sailors who tested positive in May.

The ships should provide significant insight into susceptibility. Particularly when linked with choir practice.

I used the worst case as was unclear whether the 7 hospitalizations referred to the 678 positive or the later number for 1156 and 7 was the total ever hospitalized ? ( never saw the 1500 number). But the death rate based on 1156 positives was only 0.09%. Again not a representative number.

"The ships should provide significant insight into susceptibility."--- Not sure about that as if you have ever toured a naval ship or aircraft carrier, not a lot of difference density wise, you would think that would be the worst case possible. Close sleeping arrangements, close working and eating even hallways are pretty tight. SDing would be impossible.
05-20-2020, 10:35 AM
subtle plague

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

Despite all the wheels they're still just a rat in a cage.

Border collie and the infinite sadness?
05-20-2020, 10:37 AM
Jax

I find it ironic that pro lifers are (typically) the ones not wearing masks.

Routt County looks good in that map above. Latest case at old folk's home was asymptomatic employee. It's still lurking around town even as City Council is urging Polis to allow restaurants to open by the holiday weekend.
05-20-2020, 10:39 AM
MultiVerse

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Border collie and the infinite sadness?

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05-20-2020, 10:48 AM
TG

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Originally Posted by Jax

I find it ironic that pro lifers are (typically) the ones not wearing masks.

and, at least in some of the zuckerbook comment cesspools I've visited, are spewing "my body, my choice" in response to shelter in place or mask recommendations

"ironic" doesn't begin to describe it.
05-20-2020, 10:49 AM
subtle plague

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

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Mind=blown.
05-20-2020, 11:14 AM
Benny Profane

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Originally Posted by Rideski

I was waiting for someone else to ask because I’m kinda distracted over here and maybe not reading it right. But why isn’t there a bigger brick red blob on NYC?

New York City people are actually pretty healthy, relative to the rest of the country. They walk a lot. And that will increase as more avoid public transit.
05-20-2020, 11:28 AM
KQ

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

New York City people are actually pretty healthy, relative to the rest of the country. They walk a lot. And that will increase as more avoid public transit.

A city block in Manhattan is equal to three in Seattle.
05-20-2020, 11:28 AM
Ted Striker

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

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05-20-2020, 11:31 AM
Mofro261

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Originally Posted by KQ

A city block in Manhattan is equal to three in Seattle.

because of the hills in Manhattan?
05-20-2020, 11:33 AM
Mofro261

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

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Sirius matters.

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