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Heck of an entertaining race today. Between Alonso and Ocon getting the kid gloves treatment off the bat to Charles asking for team orders and getting shot down to Max ignoring team orders. Lewis is a class act per usual. Lot's of drama heading into Abu Dhabi.
Magnussen got straight torpedoed by Ricardo. That’s too bad for both of them. Would’ve loved to see how high Kevin could’ve placed, especially seeing as how everybody else had so many fucking crazy ass problems.
and, max is a douche… fact.
I mean, a lot of those are drivers going where they're not supposed to go.
They could get rid of the sausages but they need something else to keep drivers between the lines.
MotoGP has sensors embedded along the official track edge on corners. Cross over one too many times and the rider collects a long lap penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
I like it. If the marshals can deduct instances when a driver gets pushed or faded off, that will be great, but I'm sure Hamilton and Verstappen will cry like little bitches when it happens.
track limits are fucking stupid and contribute to F1’s sterile and processionalQuote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
racing product.
Let em race
I would argue car design is more responsible for the regular procession we see in races.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady
and street circuits ?Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
Bring on 'Vegas :cool:
damn, you're ignorantQuote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady
Ive been watching F1 since i was a kid in the mid 90s- I didnt start watching because of a reality show.Quote:
Originally Posted by k2skier112
the Liberty era f1 is sterile and pales in comparison to the V-10 era
Indycar season about ti start- pure motorsport and the fastest racing series in the world
What made the racing better in the V10 era?
this is where benny would've chimed in with a sweet rendition of the "totally true" story of his super "wild times" at watkins glen experience...
in his honor i repost this here link.
https://bangshift.com/bangshiftapex/...us-grand-prix/
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It was a more competitive era in the 1990s you had Williams, Ferrari, Mclaren, Benneton all capable of winning multiple races per year and competing for constructors championships.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
You also saw teams like Jordan, Ligier, and Stewart all winning races as well
cars sounded and looked way better too
Schumacher, Hill, Prost, Senna, Villeneuve, Irvine, Hakkinen, Coulthardt, Mansell > Hamilton , Leclerc, Verstappen
Yep, I remember it well. So, what do you think made the cars/teams more competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady
Lack of supercomputers "designing" the cars which leads to one team making the best use of a loophole they found. The overly complex "power units" [meant to push research/development of hybrid tech {now we "know" the future is electric}] that are much harder to get the most amount of power from compared to the relatively lax fuel requirements of the 90's. 1.? pit stops, bring back refueling stops, please. ect,ectQuote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
ps ^' of wing in front of the cars
pps A fucking shift lever
I want to hear SirHeady give his view. He says track limits would cause sterile, processional races.
Why was the V10 era more competitive?
Fuck off moron. They'd drive straight across a chicane without track limits, STFUQuote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady
You're not wrong about F1 in the 90's. It was an awesome time for F1. I actually saw a few races live in that era. But none of what you described has anything to do with track limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady
Agreed and disagreed. I would say the steady increase of the dependence on aerodynamics has led to the sport being more "processional". The 2022 regulation change did make a difference on that front. The increase of tech in general (paddle shifting, traction control, etc) also means that the driver mistakes are less costly . As far as refueling during a pit stop, I think that is a terrible idea. I'm pretty sure Jos (and Max!) Verstappen would agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
Manual transmissions and cockpit adjustable roll-bars to add some excitement.
A mechanic I worked with - who took part in the Red Bull driver search when they were looking for an American driver to put in F1 - said that when he and Scott Speed raced in the Barber series they were adjusting the roll bars for pretty much each turn on a lap, while also shifting. Exiting!
Since SirHeady took a powder..
Cars are too wide, tires are too big now. Too much of the track is being taken up.
Aerodynamics are too dialed in. The cars work great in clean air but everyone close behind is fucked. Wings and wing area needs to be reduced.
Restrict pit crews - only 5 guys over the wall.
Get rid of street circuits (except for Monaco but half the points)
Clearly an F1 expert.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
dude, a convenient thing to call it. Maybe paint a line on the garage floor? Would that be better for you?
Are you actually looking for expertise or just being pedantic yet again?
Take some of the wing(s) out and put the brake back in, but, that causes more wrecks and danger. I’d go for some gimmicks like track watering or field shuffling. Full course yellows have been helpful in recent years.