Insomnia

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Originally Posted by Kenny Satch

Look into Utiva Cranberry Supplement for Urinary Tract Health. It's been a game changer. Instead of getting up 4 to 6 times a night I only get up once and some nights not at all. It's for UTI but it allows you to evacuate a lot more prior to bed time. It might be worth a try.

https://www.utivahealth.ca/products/cranberry-pacs

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Originally Posted by riser4

Definitely worth a look. Thanks.

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It made it worse.

Have had insomnia a few nights this week - I typically ignore reasonable advice and turn on the tv as there are some quality offerings at 3am.

Perhaps for the Amuse You thread, but this has been playing each night - I watched it hoping it would put me to sleep.

https://imagesyoulike.com/images/100...x24/246104.jpg

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Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong

and take 50mg of Trazodone when I wake up (once) in the night.
Now sleeping better than I have in over a decade. Never an issue falling asleep, and very rarely am awake more than once in the night, and that’s almost always brief.

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You take Trazodone in the middle of the night when you wake up? Any issues the next day?

As a guy who works 24 hour shifts, the idea of "sleep hygene" or a sleep routine in my life is laughable. Its the worst part about the job. Some nights I sleep 2 hours, some nights I sleep 12.

What sucks the most (for me) though, is that I have the worst time sleeping on the nights that I need good sleep the most - the nights before work. Since I'm thinking about how much I need a good nights sleep that night, I get a shitty nights sleep. That sucks. I am always awake when my alarm goes off. No problem FALLING asleep, but I wake up at 3 or 4am and can't get back to sleep.

Have tried melatonin, trazodone, ambien, valerian, zzquil, benadryl, everything. All that shit knocks me out but I don't have a problem falling asleep!! Even Ambien, knocks me out but I'm still up at 4 :( What doesn't help me is, if I don't have to work, my "normal" sleep schedule is like 12:30 or 1am till 9ish (I'm a night owl). That certainly doesn't help the two nights a week when I'm trying to go to sleep at 11 and get up at 6...

Anyone heard of (or tried) Intermezzo? Its a low-dose, rapid-absorbing form of Ambien for middle-of-the-night wakefullness. Sublingual and 3.5mg

Have you tried CBD gummies? They work for me

Yes, take one 50mg Trazodone, which I believe is a low dose. No issues in the morning at all.

wake up after 4 hrs take triazolam sleep another 4 and still get rem

When you guys figure out the solution, let me know. The last two nights I wake up at 2am to pee and take the pup out to pee. For sure awake until 3:30am and after that, maybe I fall asleep 30 minutes to wake back up again, rinse and repeat until 7am when the puppy nudges me to go out. The last 5 hours probably resulted in 2.5 hours sleep. Fucking sucks.

After everything I tried from government dispensaries I decide to go and buy off a store on Mohawk land. The prices are crazy cheap (not taxes) and their gummies are 500 - 1000mg and they knock me out. I do 100mg of hybrid and after the 5 hours of an amazing body stone I fall into a deep sleep but man do I wake up hungry.

Now I found out a friend grew up with someone that supplies to Native stores and his are 2000mg packs. Hardly any sugar, starch or whatever. It tastes like weed unlike most I have tried. Finally I'm sleeping again.

FWIW CBD and CBN work for a while then not so much after a month or so. IME its the THC has done more for me.

^^^make your own butter with coconut oil and cheap ozs from the store. I bought $30 ozs and make a pint of butter and it’ll last about 6 months.

1/4-1/2 tsp.

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

^^^make your own butter with coconut oil and cheap ozs from the store. I bought $30 ozs and make a pint of butter and it’ll last about 6 months.

1/4-1/2 tsp.

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Sounds interesting.
Can you explain further or share a link.
I'd like to try that.

This is a simple run down
https://www.verilife.com/learn/how-to-make-canna-oil
The lecithin isn’t really necessary but helps if you’re not consuming it with anything else. I put it in my coffee when I’m not working and a little before bed is great


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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

This is a simple run down
https://www.verilife.com/learn/how-to-make-canna-oil
The lecithin isn’t really necessary but helps if you’re not consuming it with anything else. I put it in my coffee when I’m not working and a little before bed is great


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Thanks

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Originally Posted by Kenny Satch

Sounds interesting.
Can you explain further or share a link.
I'd like to try that.

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Just Google weed butter. My wife use to throw all the shake and stems from our grows into a big pot with a fuck ton of butter and let it simmer on low for hours. Once she was done she had green butter to bake with. Her brownies would knock me the fuck out.

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Originally Posted by liv2ski

Just Google weed butter. My wife use to throw all the shake and stems from our grows into a big pot with a fuck ton of butter and let it simmer on low for hours. Once she was done she had green butter to bake with. Her brownies would knock me the fuck out.

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It’s a little more involved than that. Butter will go rancid fairly quickly. Coconut oil will keep for 2-3 months on the shelf. Decarboxylation is key to activating the THC so you get effects on first pass through the liver. Temperature is important during decarb and steeping the flower after decarb.


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I tried CBD. Didn’t help and still had a weed hangover. Cannabis doesn’t work at all for me period. Melatonin makes me sick. I took ambient every day for probly 15 years. Just kicked the habit cold turkey because it was really starting to mess me up. I don’t work so the stress of having to sleep is gone. If I plan well (no phone, no booze, right food) I do get to sleep and especially that second wind of sleep in the early morning. I’ll probably get some more ambien next month for travel. I hope I can use it right..

4matic I think many people underestimate the effect EMF and active electronics can have. I turn my phone off and only my table lamp is plugged in.
I didn't really buy into it until things got really bad and so I tried it. Seems it helps especially with falling asleep. Staying asleep is another issue but the gummies do knock me back into a deep sleep which is now 2 to 3 times a night I get up vs at the worst 10 or more times.

I wish you luck.

I think many people underestimate the placebo effect.

Are there randomized trials showing turning off your phone to reduce EMF improves sleep?

Placebo effect is real though, so if it works for you, great.

One thing that also works for me.. I have a big recliner in the bedroom for reading, tv, and computer. When I can’t sleep I just go in the reclining chair. I think it helps me get to sleep because I’m not trying to get to sleep. Make sense?

Phone and computer over activate your brain at the wrong time. I don’t think it has much to do with light. TV doesn’t have the same affect on me but it’s still detrimental

Been having to study a ton of case law recently for some additional professional development I decided to take on. Always late at night after I get kiddos to bed. Sure seems to do the trick to knock me out! I don't know how parents who decide to take on law school later in life pull it off. It's brutal! Haha.

Anyway, reading volumes upon volumes of boring ass stuff seems to be pretty damned effective. Probably better than Ambien or quadruple doses of Nyquil. I'll eventually drag myself to bed and I am OUT.

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

I bought $30 ozs

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THIRTY DOLLAR OUNCES?!?! How does your dispensary make any money??

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Originally Posted by Diamond Joe

THIRTY DOLLAR OUNCES?!?! How does your dispensary make any money??

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I’m not sure. It was decent flower too, not top shelf but I’d roll doobies with it all day. Like 22% total THC.


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That's cheaper than Mexican brick weed that was half seeds and sticks cost when I was in high school. Which was a while ago.

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Originally Posted by ötzi

That's cheaper than Mexican brick weed that was half seeds and sticks cost when I was in high school. Which was a while ago.

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Ahhh... the good ol' days.

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

Ahhh... the good ol' days.

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The frisbee was a tool and a toy

I eat dinner, do some shit for a little while then stretch out on the couch to watch TV and a few minutes later I'm out. Almost without fail I wake up at either midnight or about 2am and I'm up for a few hours. I usually fall asleep again between 4 and 5am for an hour or two more. If I'm extremely active during the day I tend to sleep through the night but even those really long days of 20 hours or more don't knock me out for more than maybe 6 hours.

I was waking up between 1-2am, no matter when I went to sleep. A low dose of Trazadone helps me sleep until about 4am.

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Originally Posted by Diamond Joe

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Anyone heard of (or tried) Intermezzo? Its a low-dose, rapid-absorbing form of Ambien for middle-of-the-night wakefullness. Sublingual and 3.5mg

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Always awake at 2am here. But instead of waiting for sleep to bless me, I take half an Ambien (5mg, or whatever amount I choose), crush and dissolved under my tongue.

Same concept as Intermezzo, works the same way. And works quickly it does.
You can use Trazadone the same way, just a bit more volume and poor(er) taste.

My doc gave me a script for Intermezzo, but they're pretty clear on not taking it if you have less than 4 hours left of bed time.

I never looked at the clock before, to see exactly when I was waking up, but as it turns out, on those morning when I have to get up at 6am to work my 24, I wake up somewhere between 4:10 and 4:45. and then never get back to sleep. Which sucks giant donkey balls

and its the same no matter what I take. Tried different things and kept notes for a couple weeks. No sleep aid? Woke up at 4:38. 5mg Ambien? 4:10. "Time release" melatonin & valerian, (supposed to last 6 hours)? 4:35. 50mg Trazadone? 4:28. 50mg Benadryl? 4:45 Somehow I woke up EARLIER with (almost) every sleep aid I tried, than with nothing. I'm ready to give up.

I’ll break a Benadryl in half if I can’t get back to sleep but only have a couple hours or so left for alarm

Sonata, or
trazadone


tho exercising regularly usually is enough…

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sinp

tho exercising regularly usually is enough…

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No. True insomnia doesn't GAF what you did prior. It's really fucked, and when you wreck yourself physically trying to defeat it, only to lay in bed still wired afterwards, it gets hellish.

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Originally Posted by Diamond Joe

My doc gave me a script for Intermezzo, but they're pretty clear on not taking it if you have less than 4 hours left of bed time.

I never looked at the clock before, to see exactly when I was waking up, but as it turns out, on those morning when I have to get up at 6am to work my 24, I wake up somewhere between 4:10 and 4:45. and then never get back to sleep. Which sucks giant donkey balls

and its the same no matter what I take. Tried different things and kept notes for a couple weeks. No sleep aid? Woke up at 4:38. 5mg Ambien? 4:10. "Time release" melatonin & valerian, (supposed to last 6 hours)? 4:35. 50mg Trazadone? 4:28. 50mg Benadryl? 4:45 Somehow I woke up EARLIER with (almost) every sleep aid I tried, than with nothing. I'm ready to give up.

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Extra stress lately at work? Or just pressure to get some sleep cause you know you’ll run all night? Are you guys on a Kelly?

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Originally Posted by Thaleia

No. True insomnia doesn't GAF what you did prior. It's really fucked, and when you wreck yourself physically trying to defeat it, only to lay in bed still wired afterwards, it gets hellish.

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^this

Big days sometimes make it worse.
I can get to sleep for a few hours if I'm exhausted, but I'll wake up earlier and more wired than usual sometimes.

I can always fall asleep but sometimes i have nights or streaks of nights where I'm up and can't fall back asleep. A .25 Xanax and a half hour later I'm out. I'll only do it if there's enough time for me to get 4 hours sleep after taking it. Leaves me a little groggy first thing but way less than if I'd been up the whole time.

This is bullshit.

Woke up early, dealt with contractors for half the day, yard work then a decent road ride, and wired. Fucking bullshit.

I used to rave in the 90's. DJ too. I would have killed for this somehow natural energy.