Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

It was the Salmon mousse

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But I didn't eat the mousse.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

I thought you just opted out. Back in?

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Opted out of Bill Gates deciding what vaccine and or therapy

You don’t find it bizarre that they are asking Bill how long till a vaccine will be available? Etc, etc? He built a computer in his garage...that I’ll give him. And yeah, I do know about his foundation, interest in this subject etc...

But Jesus Christ, CNN, hanging on his word like he’s the worlds greatest epidemiologist is frightening.

But you go ahead.

Life will never be the same. Our nation is broken. So sad.


After employees receive threats, one city is forced to nix rule requiring face masks in businesses

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Originally Posted by DougW

I see your logic but the Swedes thought that they could protect the vulnerable and were not that successful. It could be that in part that they did not communicate with their immigrant population very well, so had higher infection rates in that pop which in turn caused higher rates of infection in long term care as the immigrant pop was a high % of the work force in those places?? Of course your ability to hide would be much better assuming you don't need help to take a poop.

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Don't take what I said in this post too seriously. There are certainly more than a few grains of truth in it but unfortunately for me it isn't possible to completely avoid the low risk world--we have to go to the grocery store, occasionally the hardware store, and my wife thinks having the dog groomed is essential. But as you say, the big problem is the nursing homes. For the most part that is the population dying of flu, despite vaccines, and of course dying of everything else there is to die of except maybe gun shot wounds. While it seems to me and probably most everyone else who's not in one, dying of Covid 19 might be better than being in a nursing home, but I suspect most people who are in one thought that way but now want to live. The will to live is very very strong--about as primal as it gets.

And cruise ships ie floating nursing homes.

We will develop herd immunity faster if we open things up now, but if that is our goal then we also have to do away with masks, distancing, hand washing, etc. Which means the elderly, even if we lie low, will still get sick and die, although maybe not as often as if we drag this thing out forever. Like everyone else here, I don't know what we should do, and the people who have to decide don't either.

Hope this is all over by July 18--my birthday, I turn 70 so my risk shoots up about 5% that day. (PM KQ for gift suggestions.)

BTW I got my pulse ox in the mail today. Made in China. Seems to work ok. And then it dawned on me--Covid 19 is so China can sell us more stuff. (If that was on your gift list for me, sorry, I already have one.)

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Originally Posted by KenJongIll

Opted out of Bill Gates deciding what vaccine and or therapy I take.

You go right ahead short man.

You don’t find it bizarre that they are asking Bill how long till a vaccine will be available? Etc, etc? He built a computer in his garage...that I’ll give him. And yeah, I do know about his foundation, interest in this subject etc...

But Jesus Christ, CNN, hanging on his word like he’s the worlds greatest epidemiologist is frightening.

But you go ahead lil,guy.

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Take the petty insults to poly timberidge

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Originally Posted by KenJongIll

I’m sorry, but when did Bill Gates become our leader?
He’s got an erection thinking about “contact tracing”....sorry bill. Im opting out.

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Found the Flat Earther

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Originally Posted by LeeLau

Found the Flat Earther

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Haha..funny. I was literally walking our dog with my daughter an hour ago, looking at what few heavenly bodies we could see in the city, she was using my SkyView app.
I told her that there were people that that actually believed that the earth was flat...she was perplexed. It was funny.

But good try.

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Originally Posted by Rideski

Take the petty insults to poly timberidge

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Point taken

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Originally Posted by iceman

what argument? I'm just saying that charts based on information that nobody knows aren't exactly useful. How do you graphically represent an unknown quantity? get back to me on that.

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It's a fair point comparing known with unknown so just comparing confirmed cases and confirmed deaths the United States has about a third of world's total. The US also has the highest number of new confirmed cases globally and the US (population 330 million) has overtaken the European Union (population 446 million) death rate.

Maybe none of that matters in the sense comparisons between countries are meaningless because of testing differences but what does matter are the trends. The confirmed cases are worsening every day for the US vs the rest of the world.

Meanwhile

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Orange County, Florida, police arrested a man on trespassing charges for camping out at Walt Disney World, which has been shuttered and emptied due to the coronavirus, AL.com reports. Richard McGuire, 42, took up residence earlier this week on Discovery Island, an abandoned wildlife park in the middle of a lake in the amusement park, and planned to stay for seven days, he told police. When deputies told him it wasn’t a public area, he said he didn’t know. He said he had come to Discovery Island because it “looked like a tropical paradise.”

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Homeless people are sleeping in the NYC subways too, since no one is riding them at night. Very sad what this country has become.

It amazes me that people haven't realized that America has been this way already for quite some time.

Get your heads out of your asses and get #woke.

You are the problem too.

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Originally Posted by old goat

We will develop herd immunity faster if we open things up now, but if that is our goal then we also have to do away with masks, distancing, hand washing, etc. Which means the elderly, even if we lie low, will still get sick and die, although maybe not as often as if we drag this thing out forever. Like everyone else here, I don't know what we should do, and the people who have to decide don't either.

Hope this is all over by July 18--my birthday, I turn 70 so my risk shoots up about 5% that day. (PM KQ for gift suggestions.)

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Re-read Multiverse's post from a few pages ago:
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...87#post5974487

He's right. Herd immunity in the absence of a vaccine would be a loss, plain and simple. Easily 1MM people could die on our way to 60% infected. Obviously that number could be worse if we don't rush to spread and immunize naturally, but the BEST path is to continue to slow the spread as much as possible among everyone until we have a vaccine.

France extends lockdown 2 months. And what’s wrong with these numbers, 25,000 dead from 167,000 sick? Doesn’t sound like good odds.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...154301074.html

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Originally Posted by KQ

Life will never be the same. Our nation is broken. So sad.

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Originally Posted by old goat

Homeless people are sleeping in the NYC subways too, since no one is riding them at night. Very sad what this country has become.

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Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark

It amazes me that people haven't realized that America has been this way already for quite some time.

Get your heads out of your asses and get #woke.

You are the problem too.

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yeah. jesus, homeless people on the nyc subway. wild wacky stuff!!

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

Comparing America to third world countries and states run by lunatics kinda takes the starch out the argument, doesn't it?

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From a European perspective the comparison makes sense.

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Originally Posted by old goat

Homeless people are sleeping in the NYC subways too, since no one is riding them at night. Very sad what this country has become.

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That's pretty much over, the subways will stop from 1-5am every night so that every active car can be cleaned and disinfected. Before the train goes into the barn it will be emptied.

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Originally Posted by Rideski

France extends lockdown 2 months. And what’s wrong with these numbers, 25,000 dead from 167,000 sick? Doesn’t sound like good odds.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...154301074.html

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Tricky for Switzerland's cross border workers. My office is progressively opening starting Monday. All our french workers will be stuck in France. But my company is very generous, no one loses a paycheck regardless. Fortunately I'm on the IT side and will be remote indefinitely.

France/Macron fucked up royally. *kiss kiss*

Old news...

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/14/212189...acron-response



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Originally Posted by KQ

Life will never be the same. Our nation is broken. So sad.


After employees receive threats, one city is forced to nix rule requiring face masks in businesses

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I see the opposite.
There are pockets of resistance
Like that Oklahoma town.

This ain’t Ebola
This ain’t no disco
This ain’t Fauci’s town

You got the heebee jeebees?
You shouldn’t go out

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Originally Posted by old goat

Homeless people are sleeping in the NYC subways too, since no one is riding them at night. Very sad what this country has become.

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Not between the hours of 1am and 5am for the forseeable future.

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Originally Posted by KQ

Life will never be the same. Our nation is broken. So sad.


After employees receive threats, one city is forced to nix rule requiring face masks in businesses

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Originally Posted by old goat

Homeless people are sleeping in the NYC subways too, since no one is riding them at night. Very sad what this country has become.

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Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark

It amazes me that people haven't realized that America has been this way already for quite some time.

Get your heads out of your asses and get #woke.

You are the problem too.

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Originally Posted by Harry

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Originally Posted by mall walker

yeah. jesus, homeless people on the nyc subway. wild wacky stuff!!

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The people finding the doom,gloom and stupidity, will never make things better.
It's sad that the worst get the most attention.

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

I see the opposite.
There are pockets of resistance
Like that Oklahoma town.

This ain’t Ebola
This ain’t no disco
This ain’t Fauci’s town

You got the heebee jeebees?
You shouldn’t go out

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Clever. But, Life During Wartime is fully applicable these days unedited. One of my favorite songs of all times. I know parody is supposed to be flattery, however it's like if I were a follower of Islam and somebody spoofed the Koran. Don't mess with it. Or we will need a fatwa against you detailing severe punishment.

https://youtu.be/OVHNwBbkSj4

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Originally Posted by skiballs

The people finding the doom,gloom and stupidity, will never make things better.
It's sad that the worst get the most attention.

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True dat. I hear if we all just talk about rainbows and unicorns we can cut the R value of this bugger in half.