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I was pretty disappointed with Zwift when I tried it pre smart trainer. Since I bought one, won’t say I love it but definitely use it much more. It’s far more engaging! These rides are definitely fun and knocking off routes in the winter pays dividends. Also find the tour de Zwift is another good event
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Thanks. So, should I just suck it up and buy an inexpensive smart trainer? Any suggestions?
Sorry I had to miss tonight, I had to (gasp) work.
How was tonight, anyone have a snap shot of the riders for my spreadsheet.
Nice tight group of 4 tonight. Myself, Tom Anderson, Derek Hembree and Ezo Sapporo who rambled on and on about how Japan is gonna get a meter of snow in the next few days. Yeah ... whatever dude ... we get it ...
Fun stuff. Tom bailed after two laps. We rolled well. Couple of little flyers here and there but we regrouped and finished strong.
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I thought last week was bad but ended up pushing with those two and HR skyrocketed to 187…c’mon everyone loves JaPow!!!
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Wait till the “fast guys” join, and you try to follow….Quote:
Originally Posted by satori
Totally kidding. Get some, take pics and make us all jealous.Quote:
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And DH is right. The group has some big hitters and they haven't shown yet.
Mid-level wheel off smart trainer is probably best value IMO. I have an Elite Direto, also Kickr Core or similar are right level.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
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It was a fun ride, even though I spent a lot of the ride trying to keep the burger and beer I had for lunch down (what was I thinking....)
Oh, and I got Ride On envy watching Santori.....dude gets a Ride On every 15-30 seconds, made me feel like I was riding with a Zwift celebrity....
I meant to come out today. Also meant to go take a lap up snowbowl. Or do some xmas shopping or something. Last night's race up ventoux had me being pretty lazy all day. It's so far up there. Got pretty tedious. Plus side I picked a good pace and didn't blow up and put down decent power.
What’s that in freedom units? I need it in washing machines or AR15 length or something else relatable.Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
Trying to decide if it’s worth Zwifting with just one arm. I imagine the saddle-time will be a little more uncomfortable?
But hell, I gotta do something, I’m going stir crazy!
(Not really TGR ride related, just in general)
Exhibit A … fast guyQuote:
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Maybe you could come up with some sort of an arm rest? I feel like I've seen a picture of a guy with his arm in a cast resting on a step ladder while he rode a trainer. Might be hard to do anything other than just pedal somewhat casually but it would be better than nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
And if anyone's really, really bored I did put that ventoux race on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNzB0L2G-nk
There's some chat and group riding early on but after about 30min it's just solo suffering to the top.
Not me! I'm skinny fatQuote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
No thanks. I’d like to avoid having a heart attack!! [emoji23] Animals can do their thing I’ll watch from the sidelines.Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
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gonna join tonight and see how it goes - tweaked a hammy in an unexpected compression on the hill this morning so pedalling may be really good for it or really bad :crossbones:
Ya seemed fine to meQuote:
Originally Posted by grrrmountainman
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Ha. The saddle actually put pressure on it limiting movement and now it’s got splats cbd cream working it’s magic - more lefts and rights to make tomorrow
Good ride tonight, pace was spot on then the powerhouses could finish it off
6 of us tonight:
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G.R. = Grmountainman
P.L. = jamal
D.H. = Zhem
Wendigo
Dee Hubbs
F.T. = EWG
Last race of our local series last night. 2 laps of yorkshire, a lot more fun and dynamic and shorter than last week. After that ventoux climb I took a few days off and felt pretty mediocre when I finally took a ride sunday.
Tried to play it smarter, letting other people set pace, letting other people doing some of the chasing, but also getting to the front and being aggressive where it's advantageous. Like on the climb 5k from the finish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_ixEnXv_vw
Anyone planning or riding tonight?
If not I’ll do a longer ride now and be be done at a better dinner time.
I know timing is tough during the holidays.
Thanks
Not I - enjoy the holiday week. Likely going to rip off some miles in the morning
I'm missing it- decided I need to take a little break. No festive 500 for me and probably won't even ride at all this week.
Got outside today, so I'm out.
I'm out too.
I’m in Jackson Hole till mid next week so out for a couple cycles.
I’m not back until mid Jan at the earliest
Sorry, missed this. Small group of 2 tonight, myself and S.C. (not sure what his username is so will let him post up).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
Will miss this Thursday but should be back next week.
Pretty crappy wet and 50s here so 2x20ish efforts up Innsbruck/Lutscher route makes for good route. Then rode around the hood w my daughter on newly built DJ. Should be in for Tuesdays again moving forward
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Random topic, but I bought one of those wifi scales that captures Weight (lb), Fat mass (lb), Bone mass (lb), Muscle mass (lb) and Hydration (lb). I've used it for about a month and a half across 10 readings.
One might predict that some of these parameters are correlated over time. For example, any one or all of the mass readings might correlate to overall weight as trends over time. Regardless, I would accepts correlated trends, but not exact trends.
To examine this I calculated z-scores for each parameter across the ten readings and plotted them. I then calculated the regressions for each. The slopes are essentially identical suggesting that the data are just permutations of each other.
For example, the equations for the regression comparing the "weight" readings and the " fat mass" readings are as follows;
y = 0.0516x - 2299.6 (weight)
y = 0.0517x - 2302.7 (fat mass)
Similarly, the equations comparing "bone mass," "muscle mass," and "hydration" are as follows;
y = -0.005x + 221.77 (bone mass)
y = -0.004x + 176.72 (muscle mass)
y = -0.004x + 194.2 (hydration)
There is zero chance that these are truly independent measurements with any connection to distinct biological phenomenon. Other than weight, frankly I don't know what this device is measuring. Even in a relative sense, it's impossible to interpret day-to-day differences.
Buyer beware. Mine is a Body+ by Withings (which is owned by Nokia).
Wirecutter did a review of smart scales that is similar to yours - basically said that they’re only good for weight trends and beaming that metric to an app.
I’m sincerely impressed by your stats skills
Thanks mang. I'd be curious to know what wirecutter found ... gonna search for it.
The analysis suggests there are two things being measured that are unrelated. One is obviously weight. The other I'll just call ... impedence, which is a bucket for a large number of things including fat composition, water, etc. The fiction is that somehow they can parse those elements.
It's horseshit whatever it is.
There is a lot of demand for metrics that tell people what their body is doing. Oura ring and Wahoo strap are popular things that purport to give all kinds of useful data. Like the scale, however, the stuff they measure (movement, HR, temp, HRV) doesn't really allow them to make reliable or useful recommendations. I wish they could do what they claim, but that doesn't make it so.
I could see value in people getting a long term idea of hours spent asleep per night (much like how a long term measurement of weight might alert you to trends). Probably a lot of us have some chronic sleep debt.
And for serious competitive endurance athletes there may be value in measuring HRV and sleep vs performance in training to look for early signs of overtraining?
For most of us mortals that kinda info is probably overkill. But then again I’ve never used any sort of tracker (not really a numbers guy) so I’m definitely not the target audience even as a weekend warrior.
My cheap garmin watch (forerunner 45) plus wearing a hrm when i ride and stuff and occasionally looking at intervals.icu does pretty well. The watch estimates how much you sleep, although I also just know how much/how well I slept.
For awhile I tried tracking HRV but didn't have a fancy whoop or anything and was using an app that used your phone camera and flash. It was too finicky and I never trusted that I got a good reading even when it said so. My low HR when I wake up seems to be about as good of a metric, to me anyway.
I was thinking out loud to my wife in the summer and said that maybe I should use a tracker to make sure I’m not overtraining.
The eye roll was telling. She’s right though. I’m probably never gonna be at risk :)
Good strong group tonight, 7 of us!
D.H. = Zhem
S.C. = mescalito
C.S. = Schuss
F.T. = E.W.G
Wendigo
P.L. = jamal
Dee Hubbs
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Great to see a good turn out after the Holidays. I needed a hard push tonight.
Fun times, even with my weird connectivity issues.
Your connection was a little yo-yo-ey. You'd be way back, and then way ahead, you disappear a few times for a few seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by schuss
Since the new Zwift update, there is now a notification in the upper left corner, by your watts, the indicates if you're having connectivity issues.