I agree. Even trying on a boot with unbaked liner hurts. Makes it so difficult to find a good fit.
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Just picked up a new-to-me pair of Voile V6 BC with Meidjos (3.0). Never used Meidjos except for ~30 minutes on Tainted Meat's skis on a hut trip.
Hoping that these will be my new hut trip skis going forward.
Curious to see what you critically think of them because if I jump to NTN, they are #1 on my list. I've heard not so great things about the Lynx.
I agree about issue of testing boots in unbaked liners and for only one day, when many of us realized that it takes a bit of use for the ntn boots to break in. Hopefully, Scotty will be dialing in his fit and giving it a good go.
Fwiw, I’ve always enjoyed touring on big “resort” boots or very light gear. I understand the appear of the T2 style of boot and have used them in resorts and touring, but they were never my jam. I’d love a tx comp stiffness of boot that skis well, fits me well, and has more touring-oriented specs.
I stupidly tried to ski a new pair of HD Race Intuitions (which they appear to not make any more????) un-baked. Not as much damage as I thought there would be based on the pain index, and now I know.
Looks like all Intuition has in HD now are power wraps - what's the consensus on free-heeling in power wraps, especially in the TX Comp?
I don't use the power wrap, but I do use a wrap liner from Intuition (Alpine model) and it works great.
PB- Seconding Danno on this. I asked a similar question here at start of season and took the leap from tongue to wrap in my Crispi WC’s and love it.
Also, @makers, take a look at Meidjo if you are scared of lynx. The flex is best/smoothest of all NTN imo but they are lighter than lynx I believe. Only downside is you have to mount them with paper template or get Fey bros or FHL to do it. I think they are the only two in the states with the jig (13 screws!). I ski them at the resort and have not had any issues except a broken tech toe metal piece that was apparently a known issue as bad batch and got warrantied.
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I have Powerwraps in TX Pros. Most excellent.
Anyone remember who runs the Intuition group buy? I’m on season 3 in my stock (tounged) Comp liners and ready to go back to a power wrap. Had them in T Races before switching to NTN.
Do not know the username of the group buy guy anymore.
Three seasons?! I made it like 10 days on stock scarpa intuition liners before painful packing out, then a rebake and another 10 days. I’m now using wrap liners with my tx comps (40+ days since baked). They came (unused) out of a pair of older full tilts. Not sure which version of wrap liners.
Larry’s in Boulder (bootfitter) made so many tweaks to my stock liners after season 1, including a second bake now that I think about it, that they’re a bit of a frankenliner but they have held on for 75+ days. I’m remembering now that I have an old pair of Powerwraps in the closet with probably 40 days. Will give them a go this weekend.
I have skied both Meidjo and Lynx, and both are super fun to ski and incredible to tour in. Each has its own issues (of course that's true for every binding I've ever skied or seen skied). I settled on Lynx because of 22D's hole pattern and Outlaws and because I found them a tad simpler.
The biggest complaint about Medijo is bootjack from snow buildup. The biggest complaint about Lynx is the claw engaging into ski mode because of snow buildup. They both are very light - Lynx is around 1000 grams for the pair and Meidjo is about 100 grams lighter.
I know nothing of the new boot but plan to try it next fall. In the meantime, it feels like Rotte Freeride's release all over again.
If you have small boots like 22.5- 24.5 and buy 22 designs vise bindings, be prepared to have the cables loosen while you ski enough to have your ski come off without warning. That’s right your ski can come off and be gone. The guys from 22 designs bought a great binding. They don’t make the great binding anymore and make fun of you if you ask for parts for it. They make fun of you while they sell a binding for a lot more money that does not stay on your feet. WTF? How can we be going backwards. It’s a good thing that they copied Russell’s 1x1 mounting pattern so that all bindings can interchange without re-drilling and that us cheap ass telemark skiers keep our old bindings. Someone with smaller feet is going to get hurt.
Are you alright little buddy?
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Wait ... you're whining about the demise of the Hammerhead?
Pretty sure there's hacks floating around for fixing your Vice cable. What did 22D recommend?
Besides buying more skis, I mean.
Not my bindings. I’m still skiing the hammerhead which is the binding design they purchased to start their company and then they discontinued it to offer more inferior products. The fact that there is a known hack to some only tells me that there is a problem out of the factory. People are coming out of the bindings. Does that sound fun to you?
These are brand new bindings and also not the only pair. There is another. We don’t always have Aaron around to fetch our skis when they are hundreds of yards down the hill.
Someone is going to get injured either by pre-release or a runaway ski. I’m just letting folks know. Of course this is tgr so everyone already knows everything here anyway so sorry if I’m wasting my breath.
Any fresh faced engineer should know what a detente is and what it is for.
STFU. I've taped the cable tubes on my blue and black HH's as well as my axls. They rotate by design for adjustment. Set it, tape it, and forget it. And, it's vice, not vise. See what I did there moran?
Where do you buy your weed and patchouli incense from?
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don't telemarkers still use some kind of runaway leash ?
They have never worked for me
Telemarkers have always been a shiftless and lazy lot
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Another issue for me is that the springs definitely become way less stiff over time. I have 70ish days on mine with stiffest springs set up on stiffest setting, and they now feel way too soft/neutral for my liking. In addition, the claw now has enough fore-aft play, even while skiing lift-serve, to allow snow to pack into the slot where the duck butt fits, allowing the duck-butt to pop out of the claw unexpectedly under load. I’m going to order a set of the redline springs and throw in new spring boxes, but this does seem like a short time for these bindings to wear out.
Just gonna put it out there that there’s a small and large Vice/Axl. Also more than once I’ve stopped to show a stranger how to adjust their 75mm 22D bindings despite how simple they are.
Mine, my wife’s and the people I skied with were always set and forget for 100’s of days.
There’s a better solution, fix your heel ski for real. As a reformed lift served freeheeler I only tele on heavier XCD hunting powder in the woods.
Mr. Wickstad only drops his knee for the camera these days and makes alpine turns 99.99% of the time. He’s a great skier but could benefit from the safety of releasable bindings and the increased control as he approaches 60.
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Or just remain at an impasse
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I love monomarking too much to alpine. NTTAWWT.
Dostie's official review is up over on Earn Your Turns:
https://www.backcountrytalk.com/foru...e49#post132319
your link took me to a different post, here's the link to Dostie's video review: https://www.backcountrytalk.com/foru...304#post132304 on BC Talk and here it is on youtube:
https://youtu.be/7ji2VfJIsVg?si=q-lTC9x4ZWFu4pPZ
This is all about the Meidjo? I don't think anyone has ever complained that Lynx feels too soft. Usually, it's the other direction.
I have also read posts from folks who had the Lynx claw release from the boot because of snow packing while resort skiing, but I haven't experienced that.
Hop also shared his impression of the new boots in that thread.
Something unclear for the new user reviews that I’ve seen is the amount of time skiing, ie estimated vertical feet skied, especially if these boots change after a certain break-in period. 7 days nearly hot lapping Mt Lincoln chair, bell to bell, (basically most of my recent user days) will break-in a boot a lot more quickly than 7 days breaking trail on ski tours. I have a friend that just went through this with the current tx pros when transitioning from older t2’s; they went from this sucks to this is awesome after a handful of full resort days.