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So stoked - 191 94 and 104 delivered today from Corbett’s... Tails have the stiffness of my Wren 98 and 108s but a softer tip... Will never part with my Wrens but need to get over my pussiness from my back surgeries and know these will be a bit easier going until I have faith in my back...
I will say this the 104 profile is MONEY...!
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Was thinking along the same lines the other day. If they made the E100 about 106-108 if would rival the Cochise, which I once owned then destroyed in bad conditions in Argentina one year. I'm guessing the number of skiers who own and appreciate that ski are pretty small world wide though. Anyway, I own the E93, 104 Free, and 110. I like them all though the 110's haven't seen nearly enough days on snow. Maybe next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Pabst
And I'm on the line with all of them too.
Nice looking skis Undertow. Jealous of the 94s. You will love the E 104.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Pabst
I own R11s in a 180cm. Great ski. Would love to own Enforcer 110s or 115s. I'd want them still a twin and mount at +2cm. haha
I'd probably own a pair of 110s now, but I don't get the sizing re the Enforcer 104 (179cm / 186cm / 191cm) vs. the Enforcer 110 (177cm / 185cm / 191cm). And the 115 only in a 191cm?
Re the Enforcer 110....177cm seems short and 185cm seems long? Why not consistent with the 104 sizing?
Ya I know it's only a few cm but at 5'7" / 165 lbs and skiing 185cm skis for 20 years I finally figured out that 179cm-181cm just fits my leg length and body weight better.
My question is why doesn’t the Enforcer 110 come in a 180cm and 187cm and 192cm?? Nordica seems pretty smart but their 110 sizing seems strange.
Or just add a 180cm and 186cm for the Enforcer 115 and I'll be happy!
I guess if the 110 lost the twin, it would cross that line from playful charger to just plan old charger. Could be the best ski evah...for me anyways. But reality is chargers don't sell. I skied and really liked the Nordica Girish for a few seasons. Almost the exact same dimensions as the E110 with a flat tail. Those things were cadillac's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beder
Interesting take. Never skied the Girish. I actually think the rocker in the tail is what makes the Enforcer 110 work. For me, it is what makes it “fun” and “loose” and not just a dead stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Pabst
I want the Enforcer 115 free layup with the 110 dimensions. It would give the ski a bit more backbone and top end that many people seem to see the current Enforcer 110 lacking.
Dare to dream. [emoji851]
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Skied my 110’s today just groomers and bumps. Been dicking around with other skis and coming back to them was like returning to an old friend. Such good skis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
Just a little more top end and crud bashing and I’d lose eyes for others.
Like the K108....
I think I'm selling my 186 104 Frees. Last years model. Skied a couple half days. Drilled once for STH2 WTR on the line for a 302 BSL. Bases did get pretty scratched on one low tide day, but nothing close to a core shot. I'm thinking $325 + shipping. $475 + shipping with the bindings. Will post in gear swap pretty soon.
Why am I selling? I want a less rockered tail and a longer radius. I've skied them back to back with QST 106's and those just suit me better. Found myself skiing faster on the QST's even though they are shorter (181), lighter, and mounted with Tectons. I think I'm too old school for a tail as loose as the 104 Free's, at least when I'm on firmer snow.
I totally get what you are saying. I only skied and owned the 188 QST106, but it was a more damp ski than the 104 Free. The 104 is solid on groomers, but a little more lively/energetic and really wants to stay in that radius on hard snow. I could see how the QST106 feels more natural on hard snow for the style you described. And, the 104 Free does have a lot of tail rocker...Quote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
Yeah, I like the Enforcers, but I have to think a bit when I'm skiing them because the tails behave a bit differently than my other skis. My Rustler 11s, QST 106s and Zero G 105s are all a bit different, but when I switch between them I don't need to think about it. I just ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
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Cross post from gear swap, I'm on the hunt for 185cm Enforcer 110s.
I'm pretty convinced that's the right length, everything I've ever skied has fallen in the 181-186cm range. Most recently 186cm Rossignol S3s. I travel to ski so I'm picturing using them to hunt out stashes late in the powder day, and all day the day after, and the day after that, which involves a lot of scraped out gullies and tight trees regardless of location. Anyone want to back up my assessment? I'm 6'1" 155lbs, finesse skier.
So interesting how we all have different likes/styles/preferences etc.
I bought 2020 QST 106s and 2020 Enforcers 104s during early summer Covid sales before we knew there would be skiing this year. Paid $479 CDN for each (approx $350US). Sold the QSTs about 2 weeks ago with the one mount for $450CDN shipped. So I’m out $29 and the ship cost.
Skied the QSTs for 4 days. So about $15/day to ski them. Cheaper than demoing.
Sold the QSTs cause I liked the Enforcers more.
Also have R11s.
Just skied two days inbounds at Whistler. Great visibility. No lift lines; chalky and crunchy on Sat and about 2-4” blower dust on chalky today.
Enforcer 104s perfect in those conditions.
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The 185 should work great for you. I’m 6’1 200 on the 185s and they work great for me. Also don’t rule out the 186cm enforcer 104 from your search, they are both very similar and I think either one would be great at what you’re looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdboatboy
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Thanks all, much appreciated. I ruled out the Enforcer 104s because I have a set of Sick Day 104s for BC trips and plan to add inserts for 50:50 usage. Ideally they can replace the S3 slot once all mounted up.
$510 shipped from Corbetts. Not bad for a new ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdboatboy
Shoot Ptex1 an email. If he has some he will see you right.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdboatboy
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=334492
Righteo, already checked and he's sold out in that size. I've found a couple places to pick them up new for ~$500, but checking here for used first.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
Ah damn. As a reference I’m 5’10” 165 and ski the 191. Go big man ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by birdboatboy
If you decide to go 191cm, I have a new pair I'm letting go.
Finally got a chance to ski the Enforcer 104 Free in the 191-cm length.
I feel like the 191 is the ski I wanted the 186 104 Free to be. They are just a little more stable at speed and a less locked into the radius of the ski, which is 19.5-m versus 18.5 on the 186-cm length.
Compared to the 191 Enforcer 110, the 191 104 Free is quicker edge-to-edge (not surprising) and feels like it just wants to go fast while still maintaining that Enforcer accessibility and forgiveness. the 191 104 Free is also more fun and energetic than the 191 110.
If you thought the 191 Enforcer 110 was a little to dead and not responsive enough, but still want that "Enforcer feel", give the 104 Free a try in the longest length. It is a very versatile ski...probably the most versatile of all the Enforcer skis, IMO.
^^^^ Yeah I'm just slightly disappointed in my 104's in 179. I'm on the 185/186 E93 and E110 but couldn't get the longer 104 when I bought. I'll be looking to swap them out here soon.
I have 93's--bought new in the wrapper. On a couple of warm days I've had them stick on flats. They're properly waxed--universal. The factory base grind. I'm used to skis sticking in the spring--I hate the feeling and usually finishes me for the day--but never in February. Has anyone else noticed a problem with the factory grind (they're dead flat btw) or is the problem global warming. I'm not looking for a spring structure because that will suck when it's cold, just wondering if a new midwinter grind would be better. If the problem is global warming what's the solution for that?
Are you still using plastic straws?Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Could be the issue.
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All of my new Enforcers have been very slow from the factory, they also have all been railed.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
I am glad to have MMSC nearby to do world class tunes.
Do you pay them half with the rest promised in two weeks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwacka
Maybe you need to do more pullupsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bushwacka
None of my Enforcers (or wife’s Santa Ana’s) have been railed and I’ve never noticed any glide issues. Maybe I need to be a self-aggrandizing, know-it-all prick to get those special features. Karma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwacka
Haha, I’m same as above.
My Enforcer 104s were great right from the start. Good glide, no railing.
My wife just got new Santa Ana 104s and they look fine too.
So one vote for bad structure, 2 votes for global warming. Too bad--easier to fix bad structure. Guess I need to start recycling more.
Can you compare the E104F to the K108? Are those even in the same category?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
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You probably just havent skied on an actual flat ski with a good base grind, or are a good enough skier to tell the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
Dude. Can you just pick one thread to cunt up instead of all of them. Please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwacka
he was doing a pretty good job in the boot flex thread. he should stick to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
Aside from being both being 10X width skis and both having a metal/wood/carbon layup, they feel really different.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
Both are very versatile skis, but the E104F will appeal to a wider range of skiers. The Enforcer is well mannered and very accessible. It carves easily, handles a fairly high speed (but has a limit), and has a tail that can be broken loose easily. They are pretty good floaters in powder for a 104 waist and ski loose in deep snow despite the 18.5-19.5-m radius (mainly due to the generous rocker profile). The Enforcer also has a playful versus charger nature, which lends to its fun factor and versatility.
The Katana is just more or everything that the Enforcer is, except rocker. It’s noticeably stiffer, more damp, and just craves speed. It has a longer running length, but somehow feels as loose (I think looser than) the Enforcer in deep snow. I think the Katana rails harder than the Enforcer but this may be because it handles speed and variable conditions better. I don’t think the Katana has a speed limit...at least I haven’t found it yet...and I only ski the 184. The Katana has better float but needs a little speed to make that happen.
The Enforcer is the ski that Rossignol told people the Soul 7 was supposed to be in their marketing material. It is probably the best do-it-all ski out right now. That versatility just comes with the drawback of a speed limit and loss of top end stability. The Katana is a charger and one of the most versatile skis around that still warrants that title.
Honestly Ill stop when the others stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
He offered an opinion that the Nordicas he has seen have been fine....so you called him a shit skier. Please. Just stop man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwacka
I haven't skied the new Katanas, but I agree with Bandit Man's assessment of the 104 Free. It is not a charger at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
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he called me a know it all prick. So fuck him, if he is not shit he can post video up and prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
again I would never have mentioned his skiing ability if he didnt mention anything about me and quote me while doing it. He struck first.......my OP on this thread was stating what I have found with the 4 new nordicas I have owned in the past 5 years.....
the boot thread isnt trolling its just stating knowledge against the OP about why stiff boots actually work well for well set up, competent skiers.
The 104 Frees I owned briefly came flat. Checked with a true bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit