http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYvM6...eature=related
Watch the first 6 seconds of this video and you can see how Hoji sets up his ft12s.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYvM6...eature=related
Watch the first 6 seconds of this video and you can see how Hoji sets up his ft12s.
I have always skied them locked in the toes. I guess I am just lucky. The only time I have released is prereleasing out of the heel with a heavy pack on. I just watched that video. One of the best ski segments I have ever seen. That is the kind of skiing I would like to aspire to though I don't think I would ever have the balls to charge AK peaks like that. Was he on Dynafits the whole time? No way would I jump off that cornice with that much exposure. I am going straight to MSP to get that one.
^^^ yeah, that shit was good.
IIRC the AK lines are on sollys (but i'm not totally sure).
Yea, the AK, and some of the whistler stuff, was done on solly's.
I have watched my buddy take 30ft to flat on his radical speed's. It can be done, I just don't feel comfortable doing so. I also don't think that the binding platform offers the dynamic performance that a look P18 does.
not sure this is the right place for this but based on my experience i'm pretty excited about the vulcan after a season+ on titans and a season mostly on tlt5 carbons. i ski about 90 days per year with about 70 being touring days in alaska. i'm 6', 185lbs. i use my sled for 10-20 of them but mostly skin and only occasionally do full on sled laps. (the walk mode and mini-bellows of the tlt's make them pretty sweet for slednecking sessions too!) this season i've been on my old white/red stripe lotus 138's most of my days. it's been a good year in alaska. i also ski a fair amount on some of last years lotus 120's. both are mounted with vertical ft12's. i have a pair of technica bodacious that i use for lift accessed skiing that are my current benchmark for boot performance. an average day of touring is 5-8k vert of climbing. i like to ski in big terrain and tend to ski them pretty fast turning for terrain features more than for the sake of turning. this year has been pretty good and i've been able to ski some super fun lines on a pretty regular basis.
i'll write up a full review sometime but will say that i'm pretty blown away by the tlt's. i stiffened mine up with intuition powerwrap plug liners and a booster strap which made a big difference on the down and small difference (a little less walk mode) on the up. i think the tlt's are laterally as stiff as the titans which is important for the way i try to ski. forward flex is usually adequate and only feels too soft when i'm in rougher snow with the big skis. i have over compressed the tongues twice and went so far forward that my heel popped out but was in funky snow and user error for being off balance and getting pitched forward. i have had good luck with landing airs at speed in good snow (to about 20 feet) and take smaller features at high speed regularly. i have lobbed off of many cornices in the 5-10 foot range to all kinds of weird landings and no speed without problem. all without any prerelease with toes locked except for a few odd falls in which case i came out with toes fully locked in a high speed crash and didn't even feel them pop. the only time i feel like i want different boots is when i'm in a weird spot going too fast or running out in funky snow and get too far to the front or back. if the vulcan is similar in every way to my tlt's but has more fore/aft support similar to the bodacious i really think they will be the ultimate backcountry boot at least for my style of skiing.
i sometimes feel like what they may lack in downhill performance is made up for how much stronger i feel on my 4th, 5th, 6th lap compared to skiing my titans...
that said, i definitely agree with above sentiments about being a balanced or forward skier on this kind of gear. i know several other skiers on the tlt5's who tend to steer from the tails and these boots seem to exacerbate backseat technique. they do seem to have plenty of fun on them though!
also, on topic of prerelease. sometimes i play with skiing toes unlocked in less consequential terrain. even with the 138's i only seem to prerelease when the skis are laid over on edge and i get a lateral release. i think high edge angles on hard snow with super fat skis is just too much lateral pressure for the toe piece. those crashes hurt and i've stopped messing around with unlocked toes unless it's full pow.
Live in Austria. August 2013 not a day before.Quote:
Dyna is lazy cause they have a patent in many countries.
apologies if this has been posted earlier in the thread...
last year, dude who skied w/ toes locked [apparently, this is may hearsay] lost his leg (dismembered) and his life in an avi. http://www.nwac.us/media/uploads/doc...ary_3-5-11.pdf
i understand the sentiments and rationale of locking the toes, but, this is a good reminder, imho....
BW, we were touring nearby that day. I read that report right after it was published and it still haunts me. I've heard good things about that guy and that he would want others to learn whatever lessons might be learned.
Don't know what BW might know. I don't have any inside info except [edited to omit hearsay]. But I can say that reading that report affected my thoughts about tree skiing and locked toes.
ETA: I'm revising this post because my source had second hand or third hand information.
Wow,
That is sobering.I will rethink locking out my toes in the future
my information is based on the the hoji slays hard thread, so maybe it's totally inaccurate, but it fits in the realm of reason to me.
on a related thought, romeo (RIP). he was climbing. it's reasonable to assume that his toes were locked cuz he was climbing. the account that i read is clear that his skis and bindings were in very bad shape after his incident. I have read no detailed account about the condition of his physical body, but it seems reasonable to consider that his legs were pretty mangled up.
Anyone know if REI will sell them next fall?
I only say this because I have a $700 dollar credit from a blown manaslu insert.
What's the pricepoint on the Vulcan? I might be replacing my Titans with these next season.
About $ 1000
I'm going to have to get a job...
Godamn they are pricy. Maybe try the Maestrale RS instead which probably has 90% of the performance, is 2x uglier but is "only" 699.
Btw - probably going to spend 3 wks in Haines next year in mar - april
I hate the way scarpa boots fit. Titans are the only at boots that ever worked for me. I had lasers, spirit 3 and 4 and skied skookums for a couple days and they just didn't work for me. To be fair the titans didn't work either until I put in intuitions.
Maestrale is totally different last than Spirit 3, 4 or Lasers. Smaller heel pockets, slightly smaller toe box. I put my own intuition liners in both the titan/zzeus and maestrale to make it fit. For the Spirit boots and Skookum I had to use a helluva lot of foampadding to take up space. Vulcans fit well though - no padding required. It's got a nice performance fit for sure
Lee, any info on the lest width, like what will it be it in the smaller sizes, 24-25?
And does this mean the Vulcan fit is about like the Titan/Zzeus? Or a little wider or narrower?
I'm actually still kind of butthurt over a warranty issue I had with my spirit 3s, deformed tech fittings. It took almost 2 months to get them replaced and I missed some awesome skiing because of it. I actually bought factors in the interim and I have scars on my feet from the blisters. I've had nothing but awesome experiences with Dynafit's warranty so...
At 135 lbs and poor I'll be passing on the Vulcan. I'm really interested in the ONE and Mercury boots. What would I be giving up going with the One vs the Mercury? Seems like the main difference is the material: pebax vs Grilamid.
the maestrale vs maestrale RS story tells that pebax and grilamid (or grilamid-like nylons) are VERY different in stiffness. I believe the one will be significantly softer than the mercury
MERCURY- made from grilamid, has secondary removable tongue
ONE- made from either pebax (PX) or polyurethane (PU), only 1 tongue.
MERCURY and ONE boots are the same weight, but the mercury includes 2 tongues, so it is basically 70g lighter than the ONE boot if neither have the second tongue on there.
The one PX will feel the softest, since pebax shells deform more than PU or grilamid.
i found the VULCAN pretty much stiff enough without the second tongue, and doubt i would use it much personally.
Jong post alert. I know this isn't a direct comparison but it does have some relevance. Can anyone compare the functionality and performance of a Vulcan vs the new Lange XT or Cochise? It seems like the vulcan could offer the best of both worlds enabling one boot for Alpine and AT using tech bindings vs. a duke-like binding with the Langes/ cochises. Since I have not skied tech bindings I am curious of their performance vs a duke or Guardian type binding for inbounds days. I know its lower and lighter but how does it do in trees and tracked out if you are going to have tech on a ski that I would normally use for both AT and Alpine?
no, if I had found commentary from Marshal and others that I trusted, I wouldn't have asked. And no, I did read several articles this weekend and none addressed this. There could be some and if you know of them, I would appreciate the links.
i have a big article coming in the next couple weeks, but quickly:
unless you ski inbounds on duke/tech or grind the piss out of the vulcan's sole, you are not skiing it inbounds. the soles will not work well in alpine bindings IMO.
the lange xt and fisher ranger are...... underwhelming. the walk mode articulation is more similar to a factor. there is no spine in the boot, so they are outgunned on mixed and firm snow. the flex of both are soft because of the lack of spine and the soft materials used on the cuff (and lower in the fisher's case). oh, and neither are tech compatible, which these days is required to be even discussed as being a touring boot in any capacity IMO.
the cochise pro and pro lite (if you downsize 1 shell) are really basically legit alpine boots with a darn good walk mode, interchangeable soles, and the shells are only 150g heavier than a vulcan/mercury/one. i just run the dynafit heels 100% of the time and switch toes between tech and alpine. works great.
the vulcan flex pattern is sorta weird. i was surprised by how much i didn't like it. the boot flexes smoother without the added tongue. i would strongly suggest trying them on in the fall before buying. the TLT5 and Titan both have a more performance/snug/even compression fit than the vulcan. neither fit all that similarly to the vulcan.
anyhow, several thousand words of actual review are coming.
Excellent info! this is great. Until my knee and ankle heal up I can't tell how a boot will fit so I got plenty of time. Can you post up when and where to find this info once it's published?
Much appreciated.