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I loved the ending with the Radiohead cover building throughout, the use of music in this show has been fantastic. After finishing I had to check to confirm that another season was planned, it totally would have worked as contained story ending the series where it did (though it does seem like another is planned which is great news). I have a lot of questions and thoughts so I'll probably have to rewatch but I'm really curious to know more about the other parks.
Just read a Deadspin article - and the author totally missed the point. The author harped about how the show wouldn't be interesting without human interest. Well, isn't that on of the Show's conceits - that the awakened Hosts can be more real(ized) than humans?
Well, its certainly a show capable of contradictory theorizing. But my take that Maeve's decison was self-determination is confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
"Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy were guests on this week's Vulture TV Podcast, and they were very clear about her motivations: She was, indeed, finally throwing off the shackles of her narrative programming. The topic came up during a discussion about recurring shots and filming techniques in the first season: As Nolan explained, Steadicam shots indicate that hosts are doing what they've been told to do, but handheld shots indicate that they're acting on their own. Here's Nolan dishing on Maeve (emphasis added):
'In the finale, when Maeve gets onto that train ... the Steadicam is leading her over. Now, it’s just keeping pace with her as she makes the decision. What we understand in the moment is it’s the first real decision she's made all season. Which is, she's not going to fulfill the script she's been given, which is to take this train wherever it's going, and do whatever else she's programmed to do. She can get off the train. At which point, we shift to handheld camera, which we'd held back on throughout the entire season until one moment with her, and one moment with Dolores, when Teddy comes to rescue her. We get Maeve off the train with a handheld camera. And I remember watching the dailies and almost being shocked at how effective a cinematic technique can be if you hold off on it for long enough. If you dial it in at just the right moment, that suggests she's literally like a train coming off the tracks. We're no longer in programmatic or prescribed behaviors. She's improvising, and we're right there with her.' "
This doesn't really jive with Teddy and Delores riding to where the 'ocean meets the mountains' - which turns out to be Ford's finale of their storyline. That was a great scene when the floodlights came on. - Although I guess that could be a different Teddy-rescue scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdeep
I'm throwing out the possibility that Delores shot a host-version of Ford.
We're assuming that Ford sent the army from cold storage to take out the Delos BoD right?
What was the guy doing who opened the cold storage room and discovered it was empty?
Charlotte sent him there to retrieve Dolores' father (whose mind contained the stolen data) in order put him on the train headed outside.
Also: Ford is dead dead. Anthony Hopkins is apparently not in season 2. Ed Harris apparently is, though.
I'm going to go back to episode 1 and try over.
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/per...s-of-westworld
Finally finished up the last couple episodes this week. That did not disappoint in the least. I'm in full agreement with PB, non-stop mindfuck and I can't stop watching. Too bad the next season doesn't drop until 2018. Might have to rewatch it just because and to see what I may have missed.
She had uncovered Ford's planned host uprising. Though it appears he was using Arnold's login to do the programming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swine
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AyoBeng
Awesome. I wonder what kind of comeuppance he'll receive for his decades of exploits in the park. It was great seeing him find out that the maze had meaning only for the hosts. In a way he was stuck in a loop just like the hosts, endlessly searching for meaning where there was none to be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
At first I thought getting on the train was simply the last thing she was programmed to do, after that it was up to her. When they're in the cold storage after they wake up Bernard, he says what she's programmed to do up to the point of getting on the train but is interrupted before he can finish. I thought Maeve cutting him off was a tell that that was the end of her pre-programmed actions. Nolan's quote is pretty explicit that her programming extended beyond that point though.Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdeep
That was certainly part of it, but it seems he was also liberating them for their own sake. The main takeway from the finale appears to be Ford's realization that Arnold was right, he was wrong, and he's responsible for unfathomable suffering. Arnold tried to burn it all to the ground to prevent that from happening. But, now that it can't be undone Ford decided to just set them all free, and the meager humans who enslaved and abused them can suffer the consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by joetron
I had similar thoughts for a while as well. The finale changed my mind though. Arnold appeared quite set on completely eliminating himself, seeing himself as the critical link required for the park to become a reality. If he had left a copy of himself within the system he knew Ford could have found it and exploited it.Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdeep
I am started watching Westworld, but this series is some what different from the others.
I've watched the two episodes of season 1.
I am waiting when I am going to finish the first season.
Westworld series id bit difficult to understand.
..... as is your post.
Season 2 first trailer released
Dead tiger
Dolores and Teddy go on a killing spree
Dune buggies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phFM3V_dors
Who's looking forward to season 2? The Man In Black's finally happy in the new trailer.
I've been rewatching and I'd highly recommend it. I only have the finale left and it's been even better the second time around.
Ohmygodohmygodohmygod
http://youtu.be/sjVqDg32_8s
Careful ..... overly high expectations may result in Der poopenhausen
The trailers are exceeding my expectations for awesome piano covers so far so I’m optimistic about that at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by PB
Damn. To wait and binge watch or do the long version? I hate waiting between episodes of some series like this one.
Anticipation: makes the good things better, and the bad things worse.
I usually watched each episode twice anyhow.. seemed like that was the only way I had any chance of understanding and following what was going on each weekQuote:
Originally Posted by SkiBall
Tonight, return of the robots with tits and guns. Psyched!
Time's Up has gotten their grips into robot land.
Loving season 2 . I like how they are going back to the origins
Finally watched the opener. Looks like this is going to be a hell of a ride. Who was the host floating in the closing shot?
TeddyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman