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This is exactly what I was going to say. When I owned one, I was always wondering how something so big could actually be so small.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannynoonan
That said, they're one of the best SUVs ever made and you should absolutely do it.
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Spotted today. Yes, it was RHD. Appeared to be wood steering wheel, too.
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I just used my 240k mi 96 80 extract a newish gigantic F350 thing that was buried up to the frame rails in mud at the water's edge of stampede reservoir.
Guy had been there all day digging, and getting more high centered, well off the beaten path.
Funny part is I just took off my 4x4labs bumpers and 12k winch this week to get them powdercoated so all I had was a 20k,# strap and a lead foot.
Took some work, violence and 35" tire smoke, but I got him out.
Fkna tough old gal!
Not an 80 but still hoping on a pretty good future with a bit more past.
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Yo, that bastard child has at least a little 80. With all due respect.
That thing looks great.
The problem with Land Cruisers is they build their reputations in that 10-20 year old age window, where high mileage reliability exists in spades. But father time is undefeated, and a 30 year old Land Cruiser is going to have all the same ills as any other 30 year old car (which by default are going to be the more reliable vehicles in the first place, you don't see neons and cavaliers kept that long). Belts, gaskets, seals, electronics, none of those make it 30 years reliably.
Comparing Land Cruisers to Neons and Cavaliers is a funny statement. Yes, you may have to replace wear items after 25 years and 250,000 miles but that's a lot cheaper than replacing a car. I'd drive my 27 yo LC to Argentina tomorrow if I had the time. It has had new belts and hoses in the last five years though.
As for Rev's 62, not only does it look sweet, it is sweet and the sweetest parts about it are the things you have to look for. Does that rear sway bar and front control arms look different than a stock 62...
I'm not comparing them at all, just saying no one keeps a Neon for 30 years, even though you objectively could if you threw parts at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
The point is any 30 year old vehicle is not going to be reliable, but it may have been very reliable prior to that, creating survivor bias. Even in the world of land cruisers, not even 1 in 5 make it 200k (18.2% per Toyota).
If you threw parts at a 30 yo Neon, you would basically have a whole new Neon of parts. But I guess like usual, we can disagree. I have survivor bias but I also don't run my rigs into the ground by deferring maintenance. I've put new transmissions or rebuilt motors in Fords, Chevys, and Dodges at far under the 200k mark. Never done that on the four Toyotas (three LCs and one Tacoma) I've taken to 200k+ but maybe I'm just lucky. I stand by my statement that if I had the time, I'd jump in my '97 LC and drive to Argentina tomorrow with 225K on the clock on the original engine and transmission.
I miss my 80, it’s the most fun you can have at 10mph/mpg.
I'd rather drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow and it's fun per gallon, not miles.
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Survivor Bias! Love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
Mine has survivor bias. At 280k.
Putting airbags in it right now.
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i just vomited in my mouth. get that shit out of here.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
I thought Toyota had a 3 door (including back) land cruiser being sold in a Europe a few years ago.
This is very true. More so now than ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
And yeah, comparing LCs to shit boxes is just sad people shit.
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You are right - I just got back from Spain and saw several 3 door LCs and definitely was man crushing on them.
Shit. I'm not in the right place financially for a toy like that. My income is about to go down. I do hope it goes to a loving TRG home.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlecross
Just passed one of the new 550s. Stunning.
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Just saw a 1992 with 123,000 miles here locally. Claims to be all original and looks to be in great condition (plus I know the guy). They're asking $20,000. Seems like that's on the high end, but thought I'd check with y'all before my wife goes and buys it without checking!
^^Check for rust.
3F engine. Reliable but slower than the already slow engine they started in ‘93.
20k for a 3f 80 is absurd imho