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Attachment 490268Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyCarter
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Who knew the LeBaron was such a versatile machine?
I read that in Motor Trend (I think) yesterday. The unauthorized/hiding-the-ball data mining by GM and others flies in the face of what insurance is, pooled risk among a larger population; not individually-tailored insurance pricing based on your real time data.
I hope someone in congress cares about addressing this, but I have zero faith that anything will get done because those people only care about themselves and grandstanding enough on tv to get reelected. /Rant over.
I'd rather be on the road with some dude in a WRX going 15 mph over the speed limit on the highway and paying attention to driving than some dude doing the speed limit texting on his cell phone. I would guess telemetrics would feel differently.
the antidote is obvious…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4jb3-0svvE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPxR4ImLmRA
fact.
Same. I want the driver who is engaged. Not the one driving a giant iPad who lists driving somewhere around 7th in terms of priorities when actually behind the wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
Maybe we can have Baker and Emily call Flo and let her people know this aggression will not stand.
Well, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by m2711c
That or a nice LeBaron.
The insurance company apps that I'm aware of (Progressive Snapshot, etc.) do not even track speeding, just hard braking, hard acceleration, and phone use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
Be that as it may, the bigger issue is the manufacturer of connected vehicles sharing your telemetric data with the insurance companies and burying that little fact in the 6 font terms of service when you use your car's connected services (onstar etc.).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
If you took HS physics, acceleration = dV/dt, so they know your velocity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
And if you don't believe that, here's what Progressive says.
"The Snapshot device plugs into the Onboard Diagnostic port of your car and records vehicle speed and time of day, when the device is plugged in and unplugged from the vehicle, the Vehicle Identification Number, and may record G-force and vehicle location using GPS. Other information, such as trip duration, miles driven, and rates of acceleration and braking, is derived from the data provided."
And this isn't about volunteering this information to the insurance company. That's a personal choice. It's about them buying the info from mfgrs without your knowledge.
Interesting fact I learned watching Moto GP race this weekend regarding deceleration. A Moto GP bike can go from 220mph to <50mph in 6 secs. I'd love to borrow someone's Snapshot dongle and attach it to a GP bike and see what sort of email they'd get.
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Originally Posted by Timberridge
The NYTimes article on that data sharing mentioned someone who got hit with a rate increase after a track day.
Apparently at least one insurer specifically flags speeds over 80MPH. I am glad I wasn't using them when I was in Montana.
Yo m27! Looking for a modern Tracker replacement?
Attachment 490494
https://www.instagram.com/stories/bringatrailer/
Better hurry fellas, only 1 hour left and the price is now up to $4,400!Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
I sent that listing to my 21 yo motorhead son and he replied "that's a weird looking car".
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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
modern? that thing be 2 years older than my current whip… plus that limited diff lock ain’t got nothin’ on true 4 wheel drive.
How about a Northstar V8 powered Pontiac Fiero then?Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ac-fiero-se-2/
What's crazier, that that Frankenstein's monster of a vehicle exists, or that someone has bid almost $9k for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
modern? that thing be 2 years older than my current whip… plus that limited diff lock ain’t got nothin’ on true 4 wheel drive.
I do not mean to offend, sir. Carry on.Quote:
Originally Posted by m2711c
and with a sizable rusthole already formed, this puppy wouldn’t last one upstate winter before that floor opens up to a fred flintstone two foot drive system…
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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
none taken. like you, my car fetish is quite specific.
fact.
Some may say we are just an exacting personality, with a nose for the finer things.Quote:
Originally Posted by m2711c
In fact, this finer thing caught my attention and now I can't stop thinking about it. Something like this would even make me drop my existing, exacting, car fetish.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...iser-fzj80-32/
https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content...it=2048%2C1365
One of my buddy’s prep school friends drove us around Sunday River in the mid-90s in a fully loaded Land Cruiser, blaring 311 from the CD player, and I’ve secretly lusted after one ever since.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
Swap out Sunday River and that might have been me. My Mom had a '97 Limited LC in that same green over tan leather that I would take out any time I could. Thing was so swank. The 311 would get turned down when I came back into the neighborhood and the dank smell would be covered up poorly by yellow tree vanillaroma air fresheners that would sometimes accidentally get left in the car to my Mom's anger.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyCarter
You know, we do have an 80 series thread
"Lug nuts are missing from the wheels."
FFS, BaT is full of punters.