Low elevation is going to start being more of a problem. I was there in Jan 2020. The sun came out with some warm air and things started melting fast.
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Nobody knows this. There's expected to be what, like 1.5 degrees F growth in average temperatures between now and then globally. What that means for individual locations is unknown, but what is known is that there will still be variations each winter, with some being warmer and some being colder. So over the next 38 years the average snowline might go up 300' but that will be made up of good years and bad years. there will just be a few more bad years than before. And some areas will most likely end up with more moisture in a different climate.
A Canadian university did a climate change impact on ski area study and concluded that in western Canada ski resorts will eventually open 3 weeks later than now and close 3 weeks sooner.
Most local skiers in western Canada don't go skiing in big numbers until after Xmas and after spring break in late March most of the resorts turn into ghost towns and end up closing in early to mid April for lack of skiers, not lack of snow. So maybe they will one day close at the end of March for lack of snow...not a big deal.
Why hasn't Brian Head entered the conversation?
Buy a place in Hurricane, get some sister wives, win!
What a coincidence. My family is also looking to relocate but we want to move to the "mountain bike mecca." Unfortunately, we don't know where this is. Can you fill me in? I have loads of money as I buy up homes with long term renters, kick them out, and convert them to short term rentals. I also already own a fully built Sprinter but I mainly only use it for grocery runs. So where is this mecca you speak of Red7?
I’m thinking that the op is from West Virginia or North Carolina
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Well, according to this article - https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/07/...iking-nirvana/ MTB Nirvana is in Ashland, OR. I think you actually have to go to Saudi Arabia with your MTB to experience Mecca.
I can post my address if you need me to
bike trails out the front door
plenty of parking for the sprinter
empty bedrooms I could rent to local workers but don't
gondola a quick skip hop and jump from the house
I kinda am sick of this lifestyle and don't see what all the fuss is about and why do many people are so desperate for it it's just a fucking ski town not sure what all the stoke is for
it bores after a few decades looking at mountains out the window people smiling and being silly as they schlep ski gear past your house headed to the "mountain"
tourist traffic
it's always cold its allways sunshiny
surrounded by all this enjoyment makes me cringe
i need somewhere dark and depressing that has been gutted of all economic growth where people are blobs of fat sitting inside all day posting on the internet while nonstop network news blares in the backround repeating the same shit ove rand over where all hope humility and excitement for life was stripped a few generations ago self medication is the only way out of the horror that has become life
Fred, you should look for a real town(economy not based on real estate and tourism) near an independent ski hill.
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Yep my guess was western NC / Asheville vicinity. Pisgah is pretty well hyped as a MTB destination and the Green River Narrows race is (maybe) the most iconic whitewater kayaking race in the country.
That, plus the fact that the desired second home is "out west". Otherwise, Hood River, OR / White Salmon, WA would fit that description too.
Gorgeous emerald green lake blocks away from charming Victorian fix er uppers. Think of the instagram SUP photos you could get on that lake!
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I second, Wamsutter, central location right between Rollins and Rock Springs, a constant gentle breeze, perfect for kite flying. Im sure I speak for many people on this forum and suggest you move to Colorado and leave the rest of the West as it is.
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Fred's depression is exactly why I have never attempted to live in a resort town in my life. Cities may suck with traffic, crime, and too many people but they have things like live music and events, cheap ethnic restaurants, and a feeling of actually living on planet earth rather than some fake la la land that is constantly trying to run away from their problems. You'll have friends that don't give a shit about skiing and mountain biking and have other interests, and come from parts of the world you know nothing about. I have friends who moved to Leavenworth, WA. After a few years there they hate it because it is constantly overrun with tourist. Now, they own a place in Mazama, WA. In a few years, they will hate that as well. It's like a cancer constantly trying to spread to the "next great place" to exploit.
Every single place on earth has intractable problems, it's a matter of what you can tolerate. There is no Shangri-La, whether it's weather, poor economy, insane tourism but tons of jobs, you all know this.
I think rideit gets this. I've lived in both. And in the end, you must pick your compromise. What are you willing to give up based on where you live?
When I had the great pleasure of living and working an adult job in Bozeman; it was most excellent. 15 minutes to Bridger, an hour+ (at the time) to Big Sky. Great mountain biking in the summer. And all the trappings and benefits of a cool mountain town. Mind you, that was seven years ago that I left, but when I was there; I absolutely loved it. Looking back on it, having a diversification of recreation, a solid, planted group of friends, and a career helped immensely. It would be a different story if you were a transient or seasonal worker, trying to eek it out with temp job. I miss it greatly and often think of how I could go back, despite the massive growth the Gallatin Valley is enduring.
Flip that with Portland, which I love and hate. It's great for the reasons that AltaSnob states; terrific restaurants, a comparatively cosmopolitan city experience, much shorter winters, and almost any service or amenity you could want. The downside is absolutely awful winter weather, shitty traffic, an indefensibly worsening homeless and drug abuse problem, much higher crime, and an hour+ in any direction for anything outdoors. Oh, and those outdoor escapes? Overrun with people.
One must pick what's important to them and determine what truly fulfills them. And be honest about it. I talked myself into thinking that a bigger city, nightlife, restaurants, breweries, and all that come with a bigger city would give what I thought I was missing in Bozeman. I was wrong. Think on that long and hard.
Bozeman isn't exactly a resort town. Shit, it probably has better restaurants than Portland, and higher priced real estate too.
I was thinking DC area. They all come to WV to recreate, but that post doesn't sound like written by a West Virginian. Far too entitled.
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What a coincidence. My family is also looking to relocate but we want to move to the "mountain bike mecca." Unfortunately, we don't know where this is. Can you fill me in? I have loads of money as I buy up homes with long term renters, kick them out, and convert them to short term rentals. I also already own a fully built Sprinter but I mainly only use it for grocery runs. So where is this mecca you speak of Red7?
Man, it took longer than usual for this thread to get all deep on city vs resort talk. Y'all are slipping.
If cycling were the only activity on the table, I’d choose Brevard, NC. Hands down.
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Yeah, that's a consideration to give us the chance to move around and check out different places. Ski real estate has gotten so out of touch that our options are extremely limited at the moment. However, Bideneconomics may give people a rare opportunity to find some deals in the next few years so it would be nice to lock in a place if that happens. Contrary to the assumptions, we aren't loaded but we do live insanely frugal so all stars could align to find something that meets our blue collar lifestyle.
Yep, I've had many good days at that place back in HS.
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Yeah, Highlands was fucking insane today!
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But it wasn’t crowded and never really is. Probably less than 500 on the hill. Lift opened just as I walked up at 8:50, probably 40 people in front of me. 1 guy beat me down to Deep T, not sure how.
42 year pass holder, ski everyday.
Skiing is way better now, than in the 80’s.
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I spent 3 weeks in Aspen in March 1972 and I can tell you Aspen was way, way more crowded then than now. Aspen was THE place to ski in the early 70s as places like Blackcomb and Whistler village did not exist; Snowbird was 1 year old in '72; Jackson Hole was yet to have a gondola; Vail's Back Bowls and Blue Sky Basin did not exist; Big Sky did not exist; Deer Valley did not exist; Revelstoke and Kicking Horse did not exist. Goat's Eye at Banff Sunshine did not exist and Lake Louise's Whitehorn One did not exist and the now defunct Olympic Chair was as high as you could go in the Grizzly Bowl. Sun Peaks was called Tod Mountain and only had 30 employees and the Shuswap Chair built in '72 only ran on weekends.
Today, Aspen is the least crowded of all the major US resorts.
“A place for everyone!”
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