I’m also looking for some 165 SL skis and have enjoyed volkl SL skis in the past.Quote:
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I’m also looking for some 165 SL skis and have enjoyed volkl SL skis in the past.Quote:
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Glad to hear they worked out! Been wishing they were still in my stable the past month as we’ve been limited to mostly man made groomers.Quote:
Originally Posted by east or bust
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Brands? Always looking for a pair of Fischer Slalom skis...Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
The Rossis could be women's skis also?? Don't know for sure without seeing more details and do not follow Rossi as much as Fischer, Volkl, and some other brands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
A few years ago Former US Ski Team member A.J. Kitt I was told and read was skiing the Nastar Pacesetters Regional Trials on a pair of I believe Atomic Redster Women's GS skis...
The Tweener skis are just fine for lighter weight adults- know more than one that have skied them successfully being under 160 or so pounds.
I have an earlier pair of those Fischer GS Skis- 183 and radius of I think 21- 2003 to maybe 2005?? Different top sheet graphic. Also picked up from TGR a number of years ago older Head iGS 180 cm with I think 23 meter radius. Before the Super Speeds and Head really coming on strong in World Cup... Originally thought like some others I was just going to get them for the bindings, and maybe flip the skis at some point. But they were mounted so took them out and they ski great if you have a bit steeper Groomer East Coast than just a bump of a hill.
Bought these tonight on the right. They were listed as 180 I think, but they are 182. These are possibly kids/teen skis though and I'm gonna break them in half? They seems fucking stout as fuck.
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Do they have a radius listed? That's usually helpful in figuring out vintage and target age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
No race background, but I've put many many days on an older teen GS 175ish Volkl P-something or other. They finally delammed in the tail a little bit, but they're 15+ years old. Doubt you're going to fold them.Quote:
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They are labeled FIS and according to what I can find are 23 radius.Quote:
Originally Posted by anotherVTskibum
Thats a masters ski/ old womens FIS, not a kid ski. It is what you seek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
Sweet. The 183 Ficher GS are 27 radius. Will my 200 pound buddy fold those in half?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofro261
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Nah, that's the old Men's FIS norm up to ~2013ish, then it went to 35M and back to 30M. Bigger dudes ~240+ don't fold them either and folding is not an issue unless one is trying to force a sub 15M turn, which there's no need to when not being forced to turn where gates are set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
The only skis that might fold from an adult skiing them are true kids skis in the 170-179 range but most of those are sub-21M and are made with a lighter construction.
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I agree you will be fine on them. I was on a 188 of that same era and the ones that Gajin posted. I was 230 when I was lifting and on juice and never had a problem, only skis i broke were when I wrecked in a downhill crash
Shit like 50% and they mooooove. Fast. Fun.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f244fc04db.jpg
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Yeah dudes! No time wasted. [emoji1690]
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You dudes are making me want to mount up these dumpster finds. I’ve got some old FKS Course 14’s that would fit
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The super long radius race (non-speed) skis still mystify me.
I raced in high school in the era of short super turny slalom skis. Big Bode Miller Racing on 155s.
I had a pair of race stock Salomon equipe 10 3v they were “long” at 168 with a 15m turning radius. We didn’t do GS but I think they looked about like the pair above with fairly short radius. Turning >30m skis through a GS course sounds rough.
Try a 203cm, ~70m slalom ski. Just stupid looking back now.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
My last year racing (just high school, not elite) kids were just starting to get into shaped skis. I would have been so much better if I had of jumped on that bandwagon early (and if my parents could have afforded new gear).
Think this pair originally belonged to iRip's family, is it a U16 ski? 176 Head i.GS RD.
I finally picked up race bindings for them. If the 176 is too small for my 170 lbs of slack, I have a new women's 183 30m Fischer RC4 GS collecting dust.
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The "team" labeled skis are the tweener line and I think this is the same recreational gs construction in 176, 181, 186 if with the WCR 14 plate.Quote:
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Probably not unless they are old enough to now have some sort of damage or they are delaminating. They have probably a double layer wood and Titanal core in them plus a the binding race plate under foot. Photos of the top sheet and colors and graphics design (Yellow and Black, Yellow, Black and some red in the graphics, then later years they were the charcoal with yellow lettering etc.) would be able to tell the vintage year(s) within 2 or 3. The Fischer 183 cm were depending on the year and if Women or Men's were anywhere from 21 meter up to 35 meter with 27 meter the FIS standard for a while as they went up over the years to 35 for men for a bit.Quote:
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Do it and give them a try. If truly were a dumpster find, you have nothing to lose other than the time to get the bindings drilled mounted up as long as the still have good edges that can be sharpened up and no type of core damage or delamination...Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
Yea… my skier is 110 pounds + / -Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
I could be wrong but I think those are c. 2000-2004ish. Fun size/radius for free skiing. I think you might want a plate of some kind with your fks binders.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
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I’ve got these ones with a plate that I was thinking of. The plate was a bitch to pull off the Rossi ski they were on and had some crazy black glue shit, but I can probably figure out getting the plates reattached
Can't tell 100% from the photo, but those look like the plastic version of the plates with a mid-90s retail binding. Having skied both components when they were new (albeit not together), it wouldn't be my first choice if you happened to have other options, and I'd keep a close eye on the condition of the plates (I never pulled the binding out, but mine actually deformed around the heel screws, but I was running Drivers which might have a wider pattern then the Look heel).Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
The vertical heel travel on the bindings is really nice to have, but the plastic bumpers on either side of the heel reduce clearance before they hit the snow (the contemporary race room version, as well as later retail versions as far as I've seen, have skinnier metal ears where the arms meet the heel plate).
^^ alpinevibes. If you have any concern about plastic lifters per VTbum’s comment ….. pretty sure I’ve got a set with metal inserts that’ll work with those bindings if you want them…..
Yeah they’re a plastic plate and I do think they have plastic bumpers where the heel arms come down.
Dave - thanks I may holler at you for those
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I picked up some 182cm Blizzard FIS GS skis with a 23m radius. Used them once and liked them so far. Does anyone know how old they might be, and who would have been racing on them?
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Probably 2008-2012. That’s when womens regulation was 23m minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by S.B.
These are 2012:
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Graphics may matter (not a Blizzard follower as much as some other brands) so post up a photo of the graphic top sheet...Quote:
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Bump. Ended up picking up some 193cm Racetiger GS r27m with mint 997 Drivers on them. Skied them this week (my first time on a "race" ski) and damn were they fun. Super super fun and not demanding. Thanks for the inspiration boysQuote:
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Dragging up an old thread and going to highjack it with a question if possible.
Some friends were playing with their new grinding machine and gave my 2011 HEAD GS RDs a bit of love so I'm gonna take those out on the weekend, but it raised a question.
A fair amount has happened to off-piste stuff since the 2010 Hellbents.... Apart from FIS changing the dimensions, what has changed in race skis over the last 15 years?
Sidecut and, depending on make/model, where that sidecut lies. Jumping from a >27m ski to a >30m ski is a significant change regardless of how you feel about stated sidecut radius. But a lot of the 21m skis had a rear-biased sidecut (slightly wider tail in relation to tip) so they were super easy to drive across the fall line, while most of the 27m skis started to taper the tail more. The 30m skis are tapered even more, so in addition to there being significantly less sidecut, it's accessible in a very different part of the ski and the turn. But they stivot like a MFer, so there's that.
We don't talk about the 35m gs skis. Those things were horrible.
Very cool thanks, I had a pair of evil 193 Blizzard Europacup GS skis from the long radius days but I never really used them because they scared the crÄp out of me.
Apart from tuning materials to the sidecut etc. do you know if there has there been any real advances in the construction? Im just intrigued now.
Realistically, no, and that's a good thing. Race skis are still made out of ski stuff, unlike so many recreational skis nowadays which are made primarily of popcorn and hope. Most of the exotic materials (carbon, graphene, etc) are used relatively sparingly in favor of hardwoods, titanal, rubber and fiberglass.
There have been some things over the years- stuff like attempts at increased dampening (few -Atomic, Volkl and others had mounted some rails or carbon on the top sheet as one example) or a design trying to make them stiffer or instead of just wood and titanal or titanium in the core, using carbon fiber, and carbon with Titanal layer and then wood topsheet, adding fiberglass also,etc.Quote:
Very cool thanks, I had a pair of evil 193 Blizzard Europacup GS skis from the long radius days but I never really used them because they scared the crÄp out of me.Apart from tuning materials to the sidecut etc. do you know if there has there been any real advances in the construction? Im just intrigued now.