Are you guys still arguing with that numbnut? You should stop that.
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Are you guys still arguing with that numbnut? You should stop that.
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Originally Posted by riser3
I recommend a large bottle brush: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ref_=pd_gw_unk
Oregon Health and Sciences University is now predicting that Oregon will be short 400-500 hospital beds by Labor Day largely because of unvaccinated COVID-19 patients.
I hope no one in my family needs hospital care for the next few months.
Eh. It's the price we pay for freedumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by old_newguy
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This. That's the problem with all the outlying red areas sending all their unvaccinated sickos to the Metro areas to clean up for them. Meanwhile, hospitals all over are short staffed, yoy turnover rate is 30% at a minimum, nurses and techs leaving in droves, doctors retiring early, etc. The fallout from all this will be huge and will affect many people in many ways going forward. Selfish assholes like brain fried could care less about this it seems and never appears to be on their radar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiVerse
Response from a doc on another board I frequent in response to: Its just the flu.
I cover 3 smaller community-rural hospitals and one bigger anchor hospital in the states largest city.
If anyone tells you cv19 (and variants, etc etc ) is just like the regular flu and really isnt that bad...they are wrong. Period. Not kinda wrong, not debatable...but wrong.
I agree 1000% that this country's response to this Chinese Virus has been a sh$tshow and I do NOT agree with most of it- esp cloth masks and shutdowns of basic daily living activities, etc. I fully appreciate that this issue has been weaponized politically... with goal of further subjugating us. It's being used. Absolutely. And I hate them for that.
But thats not what I'm speaking of here. People tend to conflate politicians bad intentions and deeds with the cv19 disease itself...and we/they should not. Just bc politicians are using it as a weapon doesnt mean that its not a real disease or is just like the flu and is all overblown.
BS.
In the last couple of months and still accelerating now in my AO...are bad cases of cv19 entering my system...younger population than the previous elderly nursing home type of patients we saw last year. I'm reading CT after CT of 25-65 yr olds with severe pulmonary disease...it all looks the same and exactly like cv19. These are hospitalized patients or at least ones coming to the ER...and sick enough to get imaged. At minimum. Just read a CT chest on a 25 yr fat female , cv19 + with severe disease.
I've been doing this exact same job in this location for 17 + years...and I've never seen anything like the quantity and severity of lung disease in patients of this age ( 25-65).
So the next time you hear someone mouth off about cv19 is nothing serious and its just an average flu...
they are wrong. bad wrong. they dont know wtf they are talking about.
and for the record I fully believe in ones right to get vax or not.
And Im not trying to sell you anything.
Just reporting what I firsthand am experiencing and seeing daily in my mid size hospital system. It aint "just the flu, whats the big deal?"
The 23 Covid patients at my hospital aren’t obese or Immuno-compromised. They are mostly male with an average age around 45. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Get it? You have opinions but you don’t know what you’re talking about and can’t comprehend the problem. That’s why we have science and healthcare professionals, to give people like yourself guidance.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtuhockey33
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I'm surprised red state governors are not deregulating smoking indoors, and banning speed limits, traffic signs and traffic signals on state highways. What a bunch of big state government overreach. My freedoms are being infringed upon.
This is how my friend's employer handled it with their holdouts. After the initial complaints and hollow threats to quit, everyone rolled up their sleeves.Quote:
Originally Posted by abraham
Just like poker, you can only bluff for so long
Notice how he agrees that the disease is severe, and that he's seeing his hospitals fill up with patients, but he doesn't say a damn thing about the best possible way to reduce it: namely getting vaccinated, other than that it should be a personal decision. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by TNKen
But I bet he did his research!Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
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This does lose a few points for using the word "jived" when they meant "jibed."Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
More and more, I'm glad I got Moderna, not that I had a choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
Also, of the several people I know fighting continued long haul symptoms from Covid, none are old, obese, or unhealthy. Quite the opposite.
Here, another expert weighs in:
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Has mtuMontuckyJohnson19 consulted with their physician to see what guidance is regarding the vaccine? If so, what did they advise?
Conflating "points of view" with "science based data".
Most erroneous.
Interesting, I thought earlier the thought was the order of efficiency was Pfizer, Moderna, then J&J.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenboy
And yeah I remember your interview with that guy on your podcast.
He's not the only one, either. Got a friend who won the CB Classic (100 mile bike race) who still can't taste or smell anything, a lawyer friend that I occasionally work with that is still suffering brain fog, another guy who still can't do much more than 10 miles on a mountain bike ride due to headaches. All super fit mountain athletes. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by abraham
How’s that one guy you mentioned? Sounded like he was traveling around, looking for help?Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenboy
Percentages of percentages always strikes me as a little strange. As in the net difference between efficacy between two vaccines based on a limited sample...i.e., Pfizer is 60% less effective than Moderna. Not wrong, but sort of weird to look at it that way IMV.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
It really is the perfect article for the antivaxx movement....lots of bits to pull to say "see! this is why you shouldn't get vaccinated! it doesn't work!" I know that's not their intent but that's what it will be used for predominantly.
Doing better, can do short rides again, but nothing like before. I don't think all the smoke this summer is helping though.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
BuT iF eVeRyOnE gOt VaCcInAtEd It WoUlD aLl bE oVeR!Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
The most vaccine-hesitant group of all? PhDs
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-...p-of-all-phds/
"But more surprising is the breakdown in vaccine hesitancy by level of education. It finds that the association between hesitancy and education level follows a U-shaped curve with the highest hesitancy among those least and most educated. People with a master’s degree had the least hesitancy, and the highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D."