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i'm going to be making a similar decision--don't want to hijack but I currently have ANTs and need something softer, twinny, and fat for park and BC booterage. I'm replacing 179 1st gen seths that served this purpose pretty well but were too short. I'm thinking:
JP vs. J
189 seth
armada ARV
thoughts are appreciated
I'm twitching to pull the trigger on this combo...
196 Moment Ruby <edit...trigger = pulled>
195 Praxis <edit...trigger = pulled>
I've had my cart filled again and again but just can't make the click...
Yeah, I agree. I was wondering about the B94s in your other thread. I ski a similar area and have blowers for deep and some cheeeeap used ANTs for spring touring. Rogers and south can be deep and Reve can get pretty wet too. A B94 might be a pain. I realise you have proform limitations but I'd seriously look at the steeze/raven for the dynafit rig. Sorry if that's not what you wanna hear :D . Either way I don't think the B94s would be bad Plenty of folks still tour on the old B3s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Knight
And Robnow, that graph does have it's own thread, and Endre is a sometime mag. He did do some explaining about his flex findings. He was extremely thorough in his methodology too, it's solid work.
Niiiice!Quote:
Originally Posted by truth
yeah, im in the same boat...trigger pulled on the Praxis 195's, but looking for something that can blaze through everything else Whistler has to offer. Any suggestions?? I was thinkin some dp's (maybe xxl's), some sploders or the gotamas (maybe too much of a pow ski).
waiting for the turkey sale in whistler and hoping to catch one of these boys. What do you think?
I was in that same boat until Arty and basom talked me into the Moment Ruby. They feel it's akin to the old Gotama with a bit more under foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by eab03e
sorry to tell you but the turkey sale has already passedQuote:
Originally Posted by eab03e
DOH!! Looks like I will be stuck to buying off of TGR forum maggots.Quote:
Originally Posted by trouble
Can't seem to get a response in the other form... so I'll post here.
07/08 193 Nordica Supercharger Blowers + Marker Duke binding
07/08 177 Nordica Supercharger Ignitions + Salomon S914 binding
I Was going to get the Volkl Katanas in a 197 or 190, and the Salomon Dumonts, but Volkl ran out of the Katanas for a pro order, and Salomon hasn't gotten skis on their site yet. So I had to pull the trigger on the Nordicas before they ran out or something.
Anyone heard much on either of the Nordica skis?
^ no offense, but SEARCH JONG!
addict, CK thanks for the advice.
i'm feeling pretty happy with the dynastar setups.
I've just never gone the dynafit route before and am worried about how much ski they are able to handle. I know they are torsionally rigid yaddy yaddy ya. I want to go with a light weigth and hard charging ski but at the same time something that's not so stiff its going to run away from me with megarides and comforts. What I really need is a DP wailer. but being working patrol for 13 bucks an hour kind of limits me to what I get my pro deals on.
i have a pretty solid 2 ski quiver. 06 B-squad 184 for rippin', and 05 Salomon Guns 175 for every other day.
Vitamin I thanks for the heads up. Technically I am cheating. I have a pair of Head IM88s in 186 for the days when there's neither depth for 138s nor the coverage to make big turns on squads. Theyre nice and versatile, but sort of pansy and i dont ski them often. I'd like to swap they for something stiffer.
As for squads I have only skied them in 184. i know this is an entirely different bag of potato chips from the 189s and I bet I will have my ass served up a few times before I get on top of them. As for other skis, I know a lot but have little experience. With a few exceptions, Ive skied 1st gen goats all the time. This was great but now that I am branching out I want to make the right steps.
I am still on the fence tho. I want to stick with squads but ive had friends who ski better than I do say they suck unless you have room to open them up. I'm 195 and pretty athletic, and I'm up for a challenge. I know goats or LPs would be the easier route, but the burl is tempting
Tough call. I don't know much about you, but if I had to speculate...Quote:
Originally Posted by shasti
Since you are stoked and "up for a challenge", then they won't "suck" for you like your friends say. Still, they might not be the best match for you. I don't know.
You'll get on top of the Squads and be really stoked for powerful skiing in the right conditions, but Squads are stiff, so you gotta muscle them to turn tighter than their 34m radius. So there will plenty of other days when you'll get tired of forcing your Squads into tight turns and say "maybe I should have ridden my im88's today". If your goal is to avoid your im88's, then go for Squads and swap the im88's for something cheap/used that you're more stoked about. Otherwise, forget the stiff-ass Squads and get a more watered down everyday ski (new Goats, 186 LPs)---then you never really need to ski the im88's anyway.
Still on the fence? I heard Squad mount line is pretty far back (necessary to keep a stiff tip floating up in pow). Consider mounting Squads slightly forward (maybe +1cm?). Still takes muscle to bend them into tighter arcs, but FW mount reduces swing weight when unweighted or in the air (tight bumps/jump turns on steeps), and reduces pivot resistance from the edges while in contact with the surface (forcing/skidding tighter turns). This increases tip dive in pow, but not for lucky you---you have Lotus 138's on floater days.
Best is to demo if you can. Squaw Valley Sport Shop is steps from KT, so you can demo 4-5 pairs at the one-day rate if you're quick about it.
perfect 5 ski quiver (on a budget..)
181MSP
186LP
190Explosiv
194XXL
195Praxis
I lik'em stiff........now all I need are some 95sPraxis
194 Stormrider XL
186 Comi (soon)
193 Monster 103 rock skis
I have the 08 184 mantra and some spats. Im diggin it.
The jump in stiffness from ANTs, to any of the skis you listed is hudge. You might think about something like Gots, a good deal softer than ANTs, but not just noodly like the ARVS.Quote:
Originally Posted by RagDoll
Pretty pleased with my quiver of 2, should cover the PNW well . . .
184 06/07 Mantra & 192 Big Bro
my 2 ski quiver:
189 seth
180 fatypus alotta
Changing things up a bit from last year and swapped the main quiver skis out in the off season - interested to see how things go
195 Praxis
191 Squad
This quiver is going to rock. I assume you got the Squads?Quote:
Originally Posted by skadams.ca
Just wanted to update. I swapped out squads for movement Goliaths mounted with Sally ninja 916s. I have a partially erect penis as I post this link of my brand new setup just hooked up by Krash. We dont even have an inch on the ground yet. Therefore I am frusterated, but stoked. You are the man Krash
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...23#post1539423
Yep - squads arrived last week :D Quick binding adj. w/ no redrill and they're good to go. Little slow passing through customs but just in time for the snow.......and do they ever look minty - sooo stoked....thanks mang! :yourock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicious
Wonderful in depth analysis of the squad by someone who has never ridden them.:rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitamin I
Haha, thats funny. I pop off about skis I've never been on before too, but I always tell them first. I know squads would have ruled, but I heard so many great things about the Goliath that I had to see for myself. You're a squad lover though arnt ya ? Is Vitamin off ?
Yeah he is. The squads have a fairly forward mount line, mounting farther forward sounds retarded.
My three 2 ski quivers :p.
180 Explouder w/ teles
179 Made'n AK w/ teles
or
184 M777 w/ teles
193 Sanouk w/ teles
or
177 Beast 92 w/ teles (front rocker)
181 M999 w/ teles (rec. camber)
ie. beater/rock quiver
or
190 Explosiv w/ Freeride
169 Titan XL w/ teles
ie. touring rigs
or
185 Praxis w/ FKS 155
193 Titan Pro w/ 997
Good call Shasti!Quote:
Originally Posted by shasti
I missed out on Krash's deal, the guys local to me too. Got a deal on some new ones though so I'm stoked. Goliaths, 138s, keepin the Gots to fool aound on and hoping the first will blow my Calvins off so I can sell them. Fuck yeah, this is going to be a good winter!!
you sold the squads? man those things have gone threw a lot of handsQuote:
Originally Posted by Vicious
x2. I hated the 194s on the line. HATED. Great fun about 3cm back, but I have a very fwd stance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phill
Rob we're soulmates. I have a cheap hookup on gots, but I think they're so similar to the goliath, what would I need them for ? The gots have more sidecut and a twin, but I've heard the goliath is just better, with the possible exception of straightup hard snow carving. What length are your gots and do you think you'll ever ski them ? and out of curiosity, what are calvins ?
190 Gots will probably be my rock/hard snow park/general poor snow fooling around skis. Basically if I really like the Goliaths I'll probably just sell off the Gots. I don't think they will be that similar. Yeah similar in waist but Goliaths should be much more of a charger. And Calvins? Calvin Klein underwear, jeesh!
Bump bump. This is an interesting thread :)
Stockli XLs 174
Seth's 189
190 Wizards
197 Katanas
Its all your need until something breaks!
189 Seths
186 Spats
keeps me pretty happy.
Ok, so the consensus for a two ski quiver seems to be something in the 95-105mm range for "everyday" use and something 120+mm for soft days. So for the PNW should I go with a reverse/reverse like a Praxis or just a flat skis like a Katana for my powder/crud ski. I'm thinking of putting together a Praxis or Katana/LP or Mantra setup. On a limited budget which one would you buy first, powder ski or all mountain (considering my rock skis are an all mountain).
Mine:
-BD Crossbow 179 (tele) -EC/ice/spring touring
-Stiff BRO 188 (tele) - anything that isn't ice
Pretty satisfied with this setup until I move out of the EC and will hopefully only ski non-eastcoast-like-ice in which case I can bump up to some bigger skis, hopefully.
-fool
179hellbent/duke(maybe 189 depending on how the 179 goes)
179 pistol/duke(not yet mounted)
if the dukes prove to be all that and a bag of...will find a second pair and mount em up.
never skied a marker before this year, even way back.