I dont suck. Quite the opposite. But I ski in wa and there are a lot of trees there. I really am stoked on the 193's though, I just want to be sure that I can muscle them through the trees if I have to.
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I dont suck. Quite the opposite. But I ski in wa and there are a lot of trees there. I really am stoked on the 193's though, I just want to be sure that I can muscle them through the trees if I have to.
Phill...Quote:
Originally Posted by marshalolson
You don't suck, do you?
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Originally Posted by Phill
Do you at least swallow??
You know that old saying about how if you have to ask how expensive something is, you probably can't afford it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phill
Yeah. :rolleyes: And don't forget to swallow.
Wow are you guys going as assholes for halloween or something.
I was only asking if someone who had experience skiing these could tell me thier opinion of how well it turned
Well, I'm going to be skiing them and im about 5'9", 140ish. So I assume that you'll be fine. PM me and I'll try to hook you up with a pair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phill
I think you may want to run a search and see what has already been said about these. I think Particle and I are the only people that have skied them. That being said, I dont plan on skiing a bunch of trees on these. Yes they are easier to ski than other boards I have, but they are not a turny little tree ski by any means. At first glance, I kind of agree with Particle on the "if you have to ask" thing :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Phill
I really want to get a pair of these, so if anyone has a hook up and wants to help me out that would be great.
Zach,
I apologize but I can't give you an exact date. These skis had to be sent back overseas to be repressed and all I have been told is a couple weeks. The best I can tell you is the middle of November. Please know that we are doing everything in our power to get them to you as soon as we can....
oh well, we can wait. i think it's a good thing that they're re-pressing all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z
and EHP 193 with the camber of a regular ski is not terribly appealing.
you all are suckers, buying into the hype....send them back so they can be "fixed"??!! WTF? sounds like they got some major production problems, i mean, where was the quality control (mmm, ok, we shipped 'em all out with camber??).Quote:
Originally Posted by azzure
pm freeskisquaw, he helped me get them for a bit of a dealQuote:
Originally Posted by cpj.slc
Your mom is a sucker. Trust me.Quote:
Originally Posted by freshies
you bought spats, no? you bought into the hype -- you didn't ski them before riding 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by freshies
the dimensions of the EHP 193 are intriguing, as is their camber (or lack thereof) and flex profile. expecting 4frnt to deliver a product as described is not really 'buying to the hype'. i think it's cool that they are fixing the problem.
sounds like a few shipped before they caught it. for the record, it sounds like mine & Z's never shipped, and all will be fixed before we lay hands on them.
kind of par for the course, esp with some smaller companies. my dps, bros, and ehps are all delayed due to production issues.
i WAS going to let you try 'em when you're in jackson, but now... ;)
thank god this kind of thing is only isolated to the ski industry:fm:Quote:
Originally Posted by freshies
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Originally Posted by upallnight
I was told earlier that mine (and yours?) were not part of the first shipment. I think we're just waiting for the first shipment to get shipped back (fixed) before we get ours. Who knows....
i waited a year or two on the spats, and rode them before i bought 'em. but, yeah, i know what you are getting at....Quote:
Originally Posted by upallnight
hey, didn't mean to come across so harsh, props for those guys starting their company and trying new designs, etc - its just that i have been around this block before with new gear companys (skis, bikes, surf boards. etc) - and i always got hosed when i stepped up and supported these companies before they got their shit dialed.....so maybe that was my old bitterness coming out.
i look forward to trying those bad boys in JH this winter ;)
point taken. spats were out for a number of years before you got on yours (you first skied them last year or late the prior season, no?)...and even 'production' spats (some) have their problems. pretty much all volant skis had some delam issues. (my spats have been good, and i'm thankful for that.)Quote:
Originally Posted by freshies
anyhoo....the EHP 193 has been skied by folks last year, although it hasn't been a production ski until this year. we'll see what happens. 4frnt has a pretty solid reputation for building decent product. at the price i paid, it was worth the gamble.
no stores in JH carry them; you'll have to go over the pass to idaho! :p
where are my EHPS damn it FKNA, any one get theirs back yet? i need them NOW!!
Mine arrived and I sent them back for a full refund immediately. Not only were the skis not pressed flat, but there was a 1” size chip out of the sidewall (yup there is wood in there) that someone tried to cover up with epoxy. Long story short, I wasn’t very impressed but let’s hope it was an isolated experience.
was this before the recall to have them sent back to whereever the are made and represses or afterQuote:
Originally Posted by azzure
How much can you really "repress" a ski? If I had an EHP 193, I'd be against repressing them.
Whoa. Not cool. Here's to hoping it was just an isolated incident....Quote:
Originally Posted by azzure
Never buy a product on it's first year run. Never.
you mean like your brototypes? or your first gen sanouks? or the spats you used to have? or the first gen fritschi freerides you had?
like that?
I, for one, will be stoked to have this deal go through well for you, Z. I'd be pretty pissed if they sent you anything less than what you are expecting. Cheers to dialing shit down.
Production issues suck...
Edit: if you did repress the ski, wouldn't it yell refusingly, like "help, help, I'm being repressed!"?
http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictur...lyGrail007.jpg
;)
yeah marshal!! exactly. it's not like there are no companies near annd dear to our hears who have had trouble with products. the measure is how well the company listens to customers and takes care of them. problems always arise (even with volkl...but they're awesome w/ customer service.)Quote:
Originally Posted by marshalolson
i'm sure all will be fine and Z will be posting (a) some good pics of the skis when they arrive at his door & (b) some photos ripping on 'em! i'll do the same. ;-)
azzure--when did yours arrive? i presume you've had them for a while, so they are among that first set that got out. i think that given that Z & i are still waiting, the problems are being fixed in the first pair to be sent to us.
time will tell.
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Originally Posted by upallnight
that comment makes me feel much better, i was getting a bit nervous here, thanks
I hate you.:D Yes, some of that gear you mentioned above has had their 1st gen issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by marshalolson
--The first run of Naxos had major issues and I ended up taking a loss on them.
--The first run of Spats had delam problems. Dealt with that too.
-- The first run of Gotamas had issues with the sidewalls. Luckily I sold my pair before I mounted them.
-- First gen freerides had many issues, one of which was the insta-tele issue.
-- 1st gen BCA trackers had several minor issues with the harness and casing.
-- 1st gen bros had the whole topsheet and base issue thing going on.
I'm not saying that the EHPs are going to break easily, it's just that 1st runs on ski gear almost always has it's flaws.
:D totally. anyhow, it is MORE a measure of the company to see how they deal with the customer if there is 1st gen production problems. good companies will hook the customer up, and warranty the product quickly and efficiently.Quote:
Originally Posted by iskibc
anyhow, i think the EHP will be "punch you in the tit" sweet.
very much stoked to compare them to 120's.
I agree. I certainly hope they fix the issues and these skis ROCK!. Seem like the perfect ski for Zach.Quote:
Originally Posted by marshalolson
Kinda like buying new gaming consoles on launch day, but that never seems to stop me :D
Just got back from the alpineshop, they can order me a pair for 595, then I can ship them to whoever wants them, but I don't want to buy them without someone commiting to buy them from me. Also, i need to PM jumper, but endorphins in a size 29.0 for $490......
Should be in our possession around Dec. 1 or before. Im starting to get impatient.
cool. that's not *that* far away...pretty much a week (wishful thinking).
so...anyone get the re-bent EPH yet?
de-bent?
OK
made straight?
flat?
camber less?
All I know is that I am starting to get impatient.
as of saturday, i was told they are enroute to their slc warehouse