Asshat Drivers

Yesterday - Sunday 2/5

Loveland Pass

Whiteout conditions with 40+ MPH winds, snow and blowing snow snowpacked road with occassional black ice exposed by wind.

1) Large Semi trailer truck driving up the pass
2) CDOT Snowplow plowing and dumping sand following behind Semi (picture 7' tall steel plow)
3) Guy in Red Pathfinder following Snowplow closely (as sand is spread)
4) Me following 100' back content to just get up for another waist deep run.

Red Pathfinder not content with position tries to pass both plow and semi around a blind corner - oncoming traffic suddenly comes HEAD ON COLLISION DANGER!!!- pathfinder dodges in front of snowplow to get out of way. Then tries to pass again on the next blind corner - same result HEAD ON COLLISION DANGER!!!. Ice suddenly causes pathfinder tires to spin, pathfinder sliding all around, seriously in DANGER of getting hit by snowplow.

Pathfinder pulls of to side of road on narrow pullout covered in 2'+ of snow.

Fucking Idiot!!!

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Originally Posted by MarsB

Hmmm. Didn't realize it was a law in CO. Nevermind then, I've driven the I-70 circus myself enough to see it's not being enforced. :nonono2:

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It's a recent law, and it has enough exceptions to ensure that it can never make a difference (for example, it doesn't apply when the traffic is heavy, like on I-70 in the mountains on any weekend).

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Originally Posted by smitchell333

3) Guy in Red Pathfinder following Snowplow closely (as sand is spread)
Fucking Idiot!!!

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his wrx musta been in the shop ;) ;)

pretty typical behavior on LP :( :(

smitchell's post: Now that is the definition of an idiot driver

I drove the pass yesterday and those were not the right conidtions to pass anyone!

I was driving from Abasin over the pass around 12:00 pm yesterday and there was a silver Jetta stuck around that second really sharp corner. White out conditions made it even more dangerous. The people with vehicles not equipped to drive into the mountains are idiots also. I felt bad for the guy though.

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

Nope, apparently they're right on

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So stop driving like grandma and I won't beam you.

My wife drives over Teton Pass every freakin' day, six days a week now during tax season. The stuff she sees....yeesh.

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Originally Posted by jrbd

for example, it doesn't apply when the traffic is heavy, like on I-70 in the mountains on any weekend

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Sounds a little ambiguous. How does one define heavy?

(may set myself up with that one)

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Originally Posted by likwid

So stop driving like grandma and I won't beam you.

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Maybe they drive like grandma's because you are beaming them.

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Originally Posted by Below Zero

Sounds a little ambiguous. How does one define heavy?

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The law says:

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A person shall not drive a motor vehicle in the passing lane of a highway if the speed limit is sixty-five miles per hour or more unless such person is passing other motor vehicles that are in a nonpassing lane or turning left, or unless the volume of traffic does not permit the motor vehicle to safely merge into a nonpassing lane.

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So it's really kind of vague. What does "safely" mean, anyway?

Oh, yeah, and I think the only time they use it is to pull over suspected drug-mule cars anyway: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...70/detail.html

Can't we all just shoot one another?

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Originally Posted by Below Zero

Sounds a little ambiguous. How does one define heavy?

(may set myself up with that one)

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http://www.mk-magazine.com/news/3-20-03/gene.jpg

^^Geeze, you could of done better than that^^:nonono2:

Edit: that new one is even worse. I was expecting a your mom's fat joke or something.

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Originally Posted by Ireallyliketoski

Can't we all just shoot one another?

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Sure, where did you want to meet tonight? ;)

thank you lemon. this thread has entertained all day while at work ;)

more than welcome, I had a good feelin about this one.

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

more than welcome, I had a good feelin about this one.

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Yes, Nice work Lemon. Now let's go race up Broadway! :fm:

BZ-

I don't think your wrx ego can handle getting owned by an 8,000 pound pickup truck.

;) ;) :p :p :p

It's not my fault that your gas guzzling, polluting pickup truck (probably high sulfur diesel) handles at 50mph the way my car handles at 100mph on snow:D


















That being said...There are bad drivers in trucks, SUV's, and cars. Of course, I consider a bad driver one that doesn't know how to drive well (there's a lot more to throttle, brakes, and, shifting than just those 3 things), isn't aware of what's going on around them, and puts other people at risk. So basically Americans :D

How many of you have been involved in 1 or more fatality accidents? Do you have million or more miles behind the wheel. Driven coast to coast. Shifted a vehicle that has more than 5 or 6 gears and weight more than a few tons. Start to thin a few drivers out? Fucking amateurs.

I don't do nearly enough speed to be a truck driver.

You know what I love? I love it when I'm in the right hand lane, the highway is deserted, one lone car/truck passes me in the right hand lane, and then signals and pulls in right in front of me (like one car length) usually spraying my windshield with rocks! :fuckyou:

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Originally Posted by Dr.Evil

You know what I love? I love it when I'm in the right hand lane, the highway is deserted, one lone car/truck passes me in the right hand lane, and then signals and pulls in right in front of me (like one car length) usually spraying my windshield with rocks! :fuckyou:

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How is it possible to be "passed in the right hand lane" when you're already in it?

I own a 2.5 RS, and where it is no were near as fast as a WRX, I can at least try and throw my opinion in about how people drive them. I would totally agree that there are tons of asshat drivers that drive wrx's out there. They smoke me at lights, and scare the bejesus out of me on the roads. I've almost been run off the road by a subie going up little cottonwood too. What drives me nuts is that everyone who gets in these things think they are the king. They are fast, and can handle like a dream, so what is there to worry about? The truth is none of them have any idea how to handle their cars in any sort of situation where the car breaks loose, and when it does, get the fuck out of the way. Whats going on? I cant turn! The car is skidding off the road! I thought all wheel drive ruled. Fuck that, all wheel drive is the craziest thing when it breaks loose. The first time I ever got my RS to break loose it scared the shit out of me. Most of these kids never really understand the handling characteristics of their subies, and they probably never will. One day it hits them, when they try to push the nose back into the corner and have no clue how to get it around because the entire time they never take the foot off the gas. Maybe its just me...but I never felt good going in a corner and coming out of one with the same amount of gas on the entire way through. Push it through right? ha....I am definitely not a race car driver, or a physics professor, but I have had my share of scary experiences related to driving, and now I rarely go more than 5 over, and when I decide to push it I am always keeping the other drivers and risk to a minimum, and hell...I'd rather drive on dirt anyways...

No offense to anyone who can actually drive their wrx's either...cuz I know your out there, you are just seriously out numbered...

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Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

How is it possible to be "passed in the right hand lane" when you're already in it?

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Sorry, I meant passed in the left hand lane :redface:

I'm in the right hand lane, some passes me in the left hand lane, and feels the need to pull into the right hand lane as soon as they are passed my front bumper. Of course, I'm not talking about the people who pass me, pull in front of me and then slow down :mad: I'm talking about the people who maintain their speed, but why they can't maintain it in the left hand lane, or at least wait more then a car length to pull in front of me, I'll never understand :nonono2:

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Originally Posted by bryanthebold

... I would totally agree that there are tons of asshat drivers that drive wrx's out there. ... They are fast, and can handle like a dream, so what is there to worry about? The truth is none of them have any idea how to handle their cars in any sort of situation where the car breaks loose, and when it does, get the fuck out of the way. ... Most of these kids never really understand the handling characteristics of their subies, and they probably never will...

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They are fast, but actually the stock WRX understeers like a pig, and the brakes are nothing to write home about either ... it's all relative I guess.

No surprise to me that the % of asshat WRX drivers is quite high. WRX's are a lotta bang for the buck making them all too accessible for "kids" ... it's become THE most aftermarket tuned, tweaked and modified car out there (displacing the Honda).

I wonder what the percentage of WRX owners is for which it's their first car ?

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Originally Posted by YoEddy

They are fast, but actually the stock WRX understeers like a pig, and the brakes are nothing to write home about either ... it's all relative I guess.

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What the fuck are you comparing it too? Your Ferrari or Porsche?

And if you have a nice set of snows on the thing, I doubt that you will hardly ever experience it "breaking loose".

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

What the fuck are you comparing it too? Your Ferrari or Porsche?

And if you have a nice set of snows on the thing, I doubt that you will hardly ever experience it "breaking loose".

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Spoken like a guy who has a nice set of snows on his Subaru...

yeah, thanx for that. I rule in all this snow up here. yup, nothing like the pleasent hum of those things on pavement. warm pavement.

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Originally Posted by PaSucks

Maybe they drive like grandma's because you are beaming them.

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Well since we're going this route I'll just have to start shooting! :D

Understeering Pigs.... the bane of farmers everywhere.

I think Dexter needs to commit and follow his dream. You can do it, little cowboy!

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

What the fuck are you comparing it too? Your Ferrari or Porsche?.

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Yeah I'm probably a little picky when it comes to handling, but any garden variety rear-wheeled preferably German car will belittle it in the handling and braking department (the suby ABS algorithim is a joke ... ).

I've got some Dunlop's that'll let me climb up ice falls, but the soft tires make the handling worse, which is why I keep the rear tires 5 psi lower than the fronts ... that effectively balances the car and it's cheaper than a beefier rear sway bar.

You're right that it's tough to break a stock suby loose ... because they push like a pig. My guess is that's why so many asshat inexperienced drivers are getting into trouble when they modify their suspension to be "cool" ... now the car oversteers and they don't know what to do with it.

Paging Roo, paging Roo, please come to the nearest white phone.

(how can you even mention a rear drive bimmer in a thread like this?)

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

how can you even mention a rear drive bimmer in a thread like this?

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There are lot's of asshat bimmer drivers too ...
I notice you didn't write "beemer" ...

I'll agree that the stock Impreza WRX does push a little more than I'd personally like (an Evo has a slightly more agreeable balance) but by the same token it's churlish to compare the performance of an AWD Subaru on snow tyres to any RWD BMW.

FYI....

"CHURLISH"
Adjective
S: (adj) churlish (rude and boorish)
S: (adj) churlish (having a bad disposition; surly) "churlish as a bear"- Shakespeare

I think YoEddy just got owned but I now have no idea what either he or roo is talking about. I get the impression that Yo is mis-regurgitating what he reads in the motoring press, an ironic situation to be sure.

And Dr.Evil I agree that is obnoxious, especially hate it when going down a hill and the person is on the brakes while passing and then while moving over, hey sketch ball, fuck off.

I still will take that over being passed by some J/A in the breakdown lane when there's any traffic at all. Especially in the snow.

He has spoken. Take that and stick it in your beercan exhaust.

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

I think YoEddy just got owned but I now have no idea what either he or roo is talking about.

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Roo infact knows what he is talking about while YoEddy is just spouting what his rice buddies tell him and the experience he had driving his mom's 323.

Churlish? Moi ?
Like I said originally it's all relative, and I didn't start out to compare them ... just wanted to clarify that the wrx doesn't "handle like a dream".
That said though ... I love my wrx - for me it's the perfect all-season kid/bike/stuff hauling grocery getter.

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Originally Posted by YoEddy

Churlish? Moi ?
Like I said originally it's all relative, and I didn't start out to compare them ...

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Sure you did, don't puss out on us now dude!