You sound disappointed.
I never knew about this hatred- I always views summit county etc as brethren mountain areas -different yet unique and enjoyable in their own ways
have I been living in a bubble and never realized this skiracism?
I don't really see any hate either. I guess I tune it out? I'm good at tuning out negativity. :D
Disregarding the traffic and all of the people there the fact is the skiing in Colorado, especially off I-70, is really not that good. The terrain is mild and what isn't doesn't really fill in until really late in the season. It doesn't snow that much and even when it does it gets blown to Kansas anyway.
The thing I don't get is people complaining about gapers all over Summit or Eagle. You're obviously skiing in the wrong spots. And why does it bother you? Who fucking cares; don't let them bother you.
As for mild skiing...if you can't have fun on places like the East Wall or Lake Chutes, or skiing off a 13er inbounds into Rock Chutes, I don't know what to tell you other than move.
CO doesn't get as much snow as other places, but it stays good for days after a storm and lasts well into spring. It's consistently mediocre. While other places can have a really good season, or a really bad season where resorts never even open.
Said another way, the bad skiing in Colorado is better than the bad skiing anywhere else. Which is true.
I honestly can't think of one person who lives in the front range or I-70 mountains who's number one priority in deciding where they reside is quality of skiing. Life is a series of compromises and imperfect choices. Hopefully, wherever the fuck you live works for you.
People hate Summit/Eagle/Denver for the same reason they hate Portland (on either coast), or they hate beginners at any activity at which they are not a beginner: stuck up hipster pride and the unfailingly self-centered notion that they were "here first" and somehow have more claim than the rest of the population. "Boo hoo, other people moved to this mountain paradise that I live in, and now there are more people living here than I would prefer," go cry about it in Beijing. People keep fucking, that makes more people, they all gotta live somewhere. So I guess we all stop fucking, or some of you crusty fucks have to stop bitching about other people *gasp* enjoying the same activities / parts of the developed U.S. that you do!
Although in fairness, I70 is pretty bad...
to 99% every Coloradoan I've met is a douche, I couldn't possibly go to the state based on that.
Plenty of cool people in CO, just a high douche percentage to go with it.
Anyway, I say embrace the hate- I keep hearing how much California sucks and I'm thinking most people are just doing it wrong.
There are good and bad people in every state.
Except New Jersey. Fuck New Jersey.
there is the sign of a tool bag, buying a 2015 car and putting your 20 year old 2 or 3 letter plates on the car so everyone can know how local you are
on the other hand if your still driving around the same pos car that is well over 20 years old with old plates on it, well then you can get some local points
Nothing to see here... move along
I'll make an effort at a serious answer.
Most have made a series of compromises to allow an existence where they are. "I could have taken the job at that NY firm, but want to live my life and so I ended up in XXX". They then justify their decision by scoffing at others who see things differently.
The reality is that there are good people in every western ski town. There are also some assholes. The percentage of assholes goes way up when you multiply it by a population the size of the front range, and at some point, the people in the ski towns become jaded to the positives by the negative experiences with the assholes.
When I first moved to boulder, I thought it was a very fun town, with great people. Over time, the traffic, population, transiency of people and social tiers and social climbers jaded my perception.
Finally, the reality is that there are a lot of nice places, but Park City Utah is the only right choice of where to raise a family. If you ski bum somewhere else for a while, you'll see that all other places are filled with the need to social climb we associate with California, or the need to dress a certain way we associate with Texas or a lack of snow we associate with Colorado or wet snow we associate with Costal locales. So just skip all the BS and move where I live, because every other choice is based in ignorance. And once you get here, don't tell anyone else.
Summit County etc is GREAT FOR NOTHING. Unless you have realistic expectation, you will forever be unhappy.
BETTER IS EASY:
Better terrain? Anywhere that isn't East.
More powder and less wind? Almost anywhere North or West...
More stable snowpack? Anywhere West of CO.
Smaller crowds on the road and the piste? Pick a less developed more remote area
Less crowded BC? Anywhere but the Wasatch or Teton Pass
Better rivers that are not all mank and ice cream headaches? North Carolina etc
Better bike park? Whistler
There are tradeoffs. Maybe it is job opportunities, cost of living, major airport, no nearby zones when the local conditions are subpar... for many these are worth it!
Summit County etc is DECENT FOR EVERYTHING. When it isn't, areas that are have an easy drive!
If you don't like 1st-year-locals, entitled-one-weekend-a-month-locals, so-local-front-rangers, NebratexacalifornewyorJONGs, and traffic shenanigans, then find a job and living situation that lets you mostly avoid them. If you can't do that, then move. If you can't do any of that, then the issue is your priorities.
park city is a great town if you're into mountain biking.
they still skiing in colorado and PNW. and the skiing has been great. Park City on the other hand, skiing has been over for over a month. park city is a mountain bike town, the skiing is decent, but summit county colorado blows it out of the water in skiing terrain options. you might have to wait till may to ski steeps but damn, summit county, colorado has a lifetime of skiing, summit county, utah has a lot of mountain bike trails and some sweet ski hills, but those aint mountains bruh
^ nah bro just get rad in the Monitors all winter :rolleyes:
No offense Bruta, but you are either ig'narant or smoking a bit too much of that Tangerine Diesel!
You do realize that Anywhere in Park City is closer to Alta/Snowbird than Denver is to Summit County? The bird has one of the longest seasons of the year and the terrain in LCC literally blows away Summit County. This is not even a debate among sane people. Park City is also 45 mins from snow basin and 1:15 from Powder Mountain. If the Wasatch BC is too crowded there is always the Uintas. Jackson Hole, Grand Targhee, Big Sky, and Sun Valley are an easy mornings drive. Hell I can probably be in Telluride is less time than most Front Range bros. Annnnnnd, the PP mentioned that is was tops for raising a family, again hands down no debate, best schools in the State and some of the best public schools in the nation. There's also the Winter school if yer grom shows real promise.
I would guess the majority of the people who like to bitch and compare locations in the West are from the East or Midwest.
Can't you just be happy with, "It's better than Ohio"?
Uhhh, yeah
PC vs Boulder is basically a pick 'em (and my ole lady flies)...and add another hour (at least) for the CSU bros
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Okay. Misread it as summit county CO --> telluride.
Good news for the 'ride, it's middle of nowhere so it keeps everyone from Colorado out ;-)
Wait, what are we talking about again? 6 hour commutes to ski?