Yes, but I just went to her wedding. :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
Yes, but I just went to her wedding. :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
Not to beat a dead horse,
but if she ice skates and is athletic, a group lesson may be somewhat frustrating. See if you can pony up for a two hour or 1/2 day private (you are also likely to get a better instructor) and meet up with after - with 1 on 1 instruction she should progress faster and your afternoon should be more enjoyable.
Other than that I echo the general sentiments of those who have preceded me.
please don't listen to ^^^this advice. This situation sounds different, learning to ski from a gf if different than teaching the gf, for starters.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
The GM at the ec resort I've worked at handed me a three day voucher for all day privates a couple of seasons ago when I mentioned I was going to teach her myself. He told me then and there that our relationship would be doomed if I tried to take her out myself. Long story short, she got three days worth of lessons, I pro-formed some atomics for her, and she skis at a strong intermediate after two seasons, totalling 20-25 days on snow and I've never had to spend much time teaching her myself. She asks me here and there for little tips, but even that is infrequent.
If money is not a huge concern, go for some lessons, and encourage her to spend full days on skis... to increase her comfort and confidence. Even better than that, get her a buddy. One of your bro's gf's or wives to spend some time learning with her, that's the shit. This one's good too, because she's got the whole day with company, and you get to rip, if you rip, I'm not sure how well you ski.
That's it, pm me if you have any particular questions, I've gone through this issue inside and out,
Toss her to the curb and find a chick that already rips. If she isn't dropping cornices, nailing perfect turns over 80 feet of exposure and straighlining shit on the first date then mmove along and find one that does.
I didn't read all the posts but someone must have given this advice already.
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Same here. GF currently teaching me to ski and there are no issues. It depends on how you relate to each other and what end of the responsibility she accepts. The more she takes on, the better. But a paid instructor lesson on day one would be a great start.
You will remember how awkward and fast it is when you first start skiing. Stop for lunch, Apres at 2pm or 3pm. Tell her she is awesome and that you are having fun.
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Originally Posted by TyWebb
Two of the most insightful, funny and true but sad things I've read here lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_gyptian
To reiterate: Under no circumstances should you instruct her. It will destroy your relationship. It doesn't matter how good of an instructor you are, how patient you are, etc. Don't do it.
i tried to teach my wife to ski.
she became a snowboarder.
then she became a snowboard instructor.
then she became single.
seriously. i did that and it saved me a lot of trouble. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shredhead
i didn't have to dump anyone before though.......
and once she had a taste of deep pow she wouldn't go back to board on anything else. :cool:
No, that one skis pretty well, but she's not the most athletic type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayduke
You shall buy The Mighty RaccoonFace a ticket and he will teach her everything, and ensure that she gets a minimum of 1000 m of vert... and horizontal, and switch for that matter 2 HUDGE inches at a time!Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
The Mighty RaccoonFace recommends that you read a National Geographic and leave the "teaching" to him!
The Mighty RaccoonFace commends your dedication to your art that you will not allow it to be contaminated by the filth of snowboarding! Kudos!Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
The Mighty RaccoonFace has spoken!
okbye
Bump for the requested pics -- and thanks for all the good advice.
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Originally Posted by RaccoonFace
the Mighty RaccoonFace can fuck off. Franz Klammer's gf is klar's future client. Franz Klammer will come to the homeland and will sort out housing for klar in the Klammer family's private spa. klar may then agree to teach his gf in between relaxing beauty treatments.
the Mighty RaccoonFace does not want to mess with klar!
okbye
THE MIGHTY RACCOONFACE HAS CALLED DIBS! Therefore The Mighty RaccoonFace is laying claim to the gf of one Franz Klammer as his own!Quote:
Originally Posted by klar
In accordance with the prophecy Klar is now invited to suck The Mighty RaccoonFace's left nut while making the right one mighty jealous.
So it was written, so it shall be!
okbye
Yes, now where the hell are they?! (If you don't post her pics, I will!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
What The Mighty RaccoonFace has deduced from looking at these pictures:
She hangs out with Mexicans who rob Italian restaurants of table cloths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
She can't ski, but she can grind rails on skis...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
When she is hit by sunlight she tans and becomes asian... WTF?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
The Mighty RaccoonFace suspects trickery on your part! This displeases The Mighty RaccoonFace!
okbye
just take her on a date. Love her up. Give her a romantic day in the snow with skis. don't pawn her off on some instructor so she can learn to ski. (I used to teach and I'm familiar with the BS genre of "don't teach a S/O."
To that S/O, the trip may have nothing to do with skiing but everything to do with just enjoying the snow with his or her S/O.
Many of us skiers fall off the dark-end into the abyss of believeing that skiing is actually as important them as it is to us. That's strange. Quite frankly, your girlfriend could probably give a rat's ass if she went skiing one day this year. So- why turn that one day (or hopefully more) into some uncomfortable "I can't teach you" mantra followed by some weak boyfriend running away to the "fun" terrain.
lame. If I were a girl, and with you, I'd dump you for sucking at sharing time together.
(But I'm married.)
Those are all (different) ex-girlfriends.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonFace
You're a man-ho.
And she has a moustache under the keffieh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
(Yes, hire an instructor in the morning and ski with her in the afternoon).
But girls are worse to teach than 7 year olds, they throw worse tantrums at the smallest thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
They are also more likely to withold sex.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by p@wder
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Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
Yeah, once I widened their orifices I was done and tossed 'em to Franz. They are all yours Racoon Face. "NEXT?!!"
keep church and state seperate! I guess all pw dudes need to learn the lesson once firsthand. I sure as hell did! Even went as far to buy her a pair of skis. HUGE mistake!!! never fuckin again will i make the attempt to teach a girl to ski. My advise: give her a snowboard and tell her to make some snowboarding friends. She'll catch on and will enjoy it most likely.
i dont know if this has already been discussed because i cant read all this, but teaching is really an art. you have to learn how to explain the same thing in more than one way. Nobody understands one explanation, you keep trying until the lightbulb goes off and the aha moment hits. i would highly suggest a lesson (coming from me to was taken to the top and let go by herself to learn). Also, those pictures arent all the same person. do you have two beginner GF's you have to teach?
It is sage advice to get a ½ day instruction for all the reasons that have been listed.
One additional thought is for you to rent some tele gear for the weekend. If she is athletic as you report, she will end up waiting on you for the rest of the trip. I did the tele thing when I was teaching my kids to ski and now love tele’ing but can not keep up with any of them. You will spend a lovely weekend learning together. :smile:
If there happens to be 8” fresh, go with the all day lesson and just check in over lunch.
If there is 14”+, give up on togetherness on the slopes idea totally. Any attempt to ski with a beginner on such a day will result in absolute disaster for the relationship. If she doesn’t understand, fuck it, there are more girls out there and you can not squander a 14”+ day.:D
Are you referring to the pow or to the angry manlihood?Quote:
Originally Posted by mtsprings
Forget old pics we've seen. Lets see pics of the new squeeze to we can better advise.
Hilarious!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim S
I wish I could say both, in reference to me, but I can't. :frown:
Goodcatch though, that is funny.
WTF? TGR is broken!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody Famous
Well, I tried :frown::frown::frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by TGR
okbye
get her a private lesson, a group will just be a waste. Pass the above info to the instructor (on the sly, if need be); this gf of yours is the kind of potential skier every instructor drools over teaching. With the x-country and hockey, linked parallel turns are doable with a half day lesson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
yeah, but your quals are immaterial. No matter how sound your instruction, what she's going to hear is "Franz hates me." Get the lesson, then have a leisurely lunch, and go play with her on the greens in the afternoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
the asian chick was pretty hot.
Didn't read entire thread, but is it just me but -- do those three pics look like they are of three different chicas. Just a thought. Mad rezpect.
-jong out
my dad was part of the general contracting team that built most of the condos on sugarloaf that appeared during the late 1980s and early 1990s. the management at the time kept telling him that he should learn to ski, they would appreciate him using the benefit of the mountain, blah blah. so one day he finally decided to do it. i'm sure he was in jeans or carhartt's and a hunter orange hat. they gave him some gear at the shop, then the general manager or whoever just pointed him at spillway chair and said "stay left" (meaning to stay on tote road). so he's at the top, skis and carhartt's and hunter orange, intending to head skier's left to tote road, but completely unable to turn. needless to say, he ended up down narrow gauge or skidder and had a "bad time". he said he basically tobaggonned the mountain on his tails, walked directly back to the gear shop and said, "i'm not doing that again". i got a couple free days there when i was a little older so it wasn't all a lost cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franz Klammer
I taught my girlfriend how to ski last year at A-Basin.
I used to teach skiing when I was around 20 also at Attitash in NH, but I usually only taught little kids.
My gf also is an athlete, but shes from the midwest. She played field hockey and even went to Iowa on a scholarship for it. I taught her on a beat up old pair of 177cm rossi straights with boots two sizes too big and no poles. We lapped the bunny sloope at a-basin all day for two or three days. It took her about 4 or 5 times to get up the lift and ski a top to bottom green. I ended up skiing with her between my legs the first time, which isnt too hard because shes fairly petite.
She loved it and I had successfully taught her the fundamentals such as the snowplow and stopping and turning. This year we got her a pair of 148 Volkl Kayas, poles, and boots that fit. We have been skiing every weekend. Now that she understands the fundamentals I pretty much just let her ski. When I see her doing something weird I give her a tip and she listens and we keep skiing. Its pretty simple.
I think to do this successfully you have to be willing to commit to at least ONE full day on the bunny hill and accepting that she probably will NOT see you tearing it up until next year. As a former instructor, I'm sure you already understand this.
If shes a natural athlete you should have no problem. Keep it FUN and dont get all bent if she cant even stand up after a few hours, just laugh and be ready to go in when shes cold..and ALWAYS let her know that she doing really great, even if she isnt so much. I think if you canmake this work, shes a keeper.
Wow, that was easy. We spent 3 days at Sunday River. Sorry if what follows sounds more like it should be posted on Epic Ski.
First Day Morning:
- I taught her the fundamentals of how not to look like a gaper (no gaper gap, how to carry the skis, etc.)
- We skied down to the base from the condo. It was painful to watch as she tried to swing her body around to initiate turns.
- I booked a 2-hour private lesson at 10am so we had time for another warm-up run down a green run. Things are starting to look up as she manages to turn without falling.
- I dropped her off with a ski instructor with a moustache the size of Kazakhstan and then gimped around in the park for about 2 hours. When I picked her up again, the ski instructor says: "She should be ready for blue runs now."
First Day Afternoon:
- The first run down a blue after lunch was painful again: lots of falling but at least the technique was improving.
- Then, miraculously, on the second run everything seemed to be coming together: speed, technique and confidence. The parallel turns were perfect, it was a blessing that she never learnt how to ski plough-turns.
- From then on it was a walk in the park. We skied blue runs for the rest of the day. At the beginning I was still skiing switch most of the time, but as she kept improving I had to ski forward more and more often to keep up with her.
Second Day Morning:
- I figured out that every time when we restart she needs a warm-up run: "I need to remember what I am supposed to do."
- She dealt easily with her first single black diamond run and then just a few runs later with a bumped-up-iced-up single black diamond run which wasn't groomed over night.
Second Day Afternoon:
- She easily kept up skiing in a crowd of intermediate skiers (my friends from university) and was also confident skiing on her own as I poached some light powder on the closed run underneath the Aurora Peak chairlift.
- Even double black diamond runs with vintage East Coast blue ice didn't scare her anymore: all parallel turns and nice edge hold on the ice. "I think my skis (150cm) are too short, they wobble around to much", she said.
Third Day:
- There was a light dusting overnight so the conditions are pretty variable. By now she was skiing faster and more securely than most of the other people in the group (none of them beginners) and I didn't have to wait for her very much at all.
- When I asked her on the chair lift about the technical flaws of people skiing underneath us, she was able to point out most of the problems.
Some good quotes (I swear they're true):
- "I like it when there's more snow and I can't see my skis."
- "Why does the guy ski in jeans and a starter jacket?"
- "Doesn't he get cold with a gaper gap?"
- "With all those bruises my body looks like a topographical map."
Some problems that remain:
- She still considers the pole plant as somewhat optional.
- She should bend her knees more (no problem with back seat or leaning forward though).
- I don't quite know how to get her started on carving turns.
- Strangely enough, she's kind of slow when traversing.
Way to go, you've found yourself a good woman if she can do that in three days.
I am a former instructor.
I am teaching my girlfriend how to ski.
It is working well.
I got her Lito Tejada's book "Getting Out of the Intermediate Rut" and told her to read it.
I took her from "I just like skiing greens, and some blues if they're not too steep" to skiing Calendar chute at Copper (cleanly!) in something like 18 days on the hill.
There were moments of "I don't like you!" from her, but she gives good feedback about what works and what doesn't. The only thing she hates is when I yell instructions at her when she's skiing.