So, Jackson Hole locals like to wave their dicks around, eah?

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Originally Posted by 72Twenty

This is true... very true. I has nothing to do with skiing ability, but people move to Jackson and automatically call themselves locals. Many have no idea what the rest of Wyoming is like, nor do they care. The rest of Wyoming kinda looks at Jackson like our little spoiled redheaded stepbrother. It's a great place and we all love to go there, but it's kinda lame when the transplanted locals look at you like you don't diserve to be there because you don't have county 22 plates and you live "out there" on the other side of Sleeping Indian.

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This is true if you dwell in the Cabin, Rancher, or Tram Line, but once you start getting off the beaten path and finding your sustainable niche its just the opposite. And what does knowledge of the rest of the state have to do with being local, we arent calling ourselves Wyomingites?

Ive lived here for 5 years, have had one fulltime job at the community hospital, built a house, had a family, and contribute my time to several non-profits. So if planting roots and involving oneself doesnt make someone a local then who really cares, and the stuck up, long-timey elitists can suck a dick.

Change is inevitable. People come and go, trying to hold onto the past just makes people bitter.

Well said Stanley

Bitter dick eaters.......

ski bums talking smack in ski towns! high real estate prices in ski towns! sheesh, whats next!? :rolleyes:

My buddy about Fernie:
"This was a great town until all the locals moved here"

The original thread draws 7 responses and is still on page one whereas this thread is now on page 3. That is more surprising than finding out people are spewing bullshit in bars.

IMO, you're a "local" if you're involved or invested in the community & vice versa.

Think about that.

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Originally Posted by 13

IMO, you're a "local" if you're involved or invested in the community & vice versa.

Think about that.

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So like if you: A) have a job (involved); or B) own a vacation house (invested) that makes you a "local?"

Also, I'm not sure I understand the "vice-versa." If the community is invested and involved in me, then I'm a local?

locals are tourists who decided to stay a bit longer than expected

In Truckee, you're not a local until your first DUI on 89 or Donner Pass Road.

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Originally Posted by Pinner

So like if you: A) have a job (involved); or B) own a vacation house (invested) that makes you a "local?"

Also, I'm not sure I understand the "vice-versa." If the community is invested and involved in me, then I'm a local?

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Not quite. I'm talking about the time one takes out of their schedule to put back into the community what the community has already given them.

I did little of either in JH & Alta and would never consider myself a local as a result.

Does that make more sense? Hope so.

"This was a great town until all the locals moved here"

Too f-n funny...

When I was down in JH last fall for the ISSW, I went out to dinner with a couple of patroller ladies. I had to meet someone else for a drink and they stayed at the Cowboy Bar. Some freak show tried to pick them up and in the process amused the hell out of them with his tales of greatness, his trust fund, that he had been a pro-surfer before becoming a pro-extreme skier (direct quote).... etc etc.... Ski towns are full of wannabees, from J.H. to Tahoe, from Taos to Fernie.


Hey you biaches, u can't see it but I am wavin my dick at ya.....

Ouch!

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Originally Posted by DMC Freeride

Cornhole.
fistfuck...

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Crisco,
Wristwatch.





He sniffed the reeking buns of Angel, and acted like it was Cocaine.

you're only a native if your bumper sticker say so.....

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Christ, that's goin' on two tours old now . . .
We gotta come up with some new shit . . .

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Ba-Dump!


Hey, there people, I'm denker k00l,
they say I'm the raddest in Jackson Hole!
My skis is fast, my teeth is shiny,
I tell all the townies they can kiss my heiny.
Here I am, jus' a freestylin' fool,
I'm jibbin' sharp, an' I'm so nu-skool.
I've got a cougar over here, kinda looks like a Gaper
let her buy me a drink
then maybe later I'll rape her!

Oh Gawd, I am the American dream.
I reely think that I'm waaay extreme.
And I'm a haaandsome sunovabeeyotch,
I'm gonna get spancered and be real rich!


(get some schwag, get some schwag, get some schwag, get some goooood schwag...)

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you're only a native if your bumper sticker say so.....

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There's a sticker around here that mimicks a Colorado license plate and says "NATIVE." I hate em.

Just the other day I saw one in the same design that said, "MOVED HERE." :D

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Originally Posted by Pinner

There's a sticker around here that mimicks a Colorado license plate and says "NATIVE." I hate em.

Just the other day I saw one in the same design that said, "MOVED HERE." :D

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.....aahhhhh that is the sticker of which i speak......

http://www.wineroad.com/photos/locals-photo.jpg

http://www.coloradomountainstickers....emi-native.gif

http://www.coloradomountainstickers..../notnative.gif

This guy is a riot.

http://www.coloradomountainstickers..../I-Love-NY.jpg

And this one... :rolleyes:

http://www.blockaderunner.com/images/bsnative.gif

So who's really a native?
Essay by Allen Best
Residency - June 1998 - Colorado Central Magazine - No. 52 - Page 24
Copyright © 1998 by Allen Best and Central Colorado Publishing Co. All rights reserved.
Return to June 1998 table of contents.http://www.cozine.com/archive/cc1998/00520242.html

by Allen Best

A few years ago I was out on a backcountry ski trip with a guy from Englewood, a computer programmer who works for what we used to call a military-industrial contractor. He began railing about the migration of Californians and the efforts by Gov. Romer to recruit more big companies to Colorado.

A nurse and an engineer from the Denver area who were with us nodded in agreement.

Or maybe they were getting sleepy.

I laughed -- and smugly tried to explain why. In the early 1970s, when my trio of skiing friends arrived in Colorado, I had two bumper stickers on my clunker: "John Denver Go Home" and "Native." I remember very well the efforts by Gov. John Love to recruit businesses from New Jersey and wherever else -- efforts that helped bring my skiing friends to Colorado.

Those times -- the early 1970s -- were parallel to recent years. The immigrants jacked up prices, fouled the air, and took the good camping spots. I saw my first "Don't Californicate Colorado" bumper sticker in 1973 and my second one in 1993.

Actually, I like John Denver, even if his songs helped effect that which they protested ("...more people, more scars upon the land..."). As for my Native bumper sticker, it disappeared after Alec Jameson, a car dealer in Kremmling, asked me slyly: "What are you, a Ute?"

I moved to Kremmling in 1977. Jameson's forefathers sank roots there in the 19th century. As for the Utes, it's unclear when they arrived.

A recent story outlined how a coalition of White River Utes and Steamboat Springs residents hope to erect a monument there to draw attention to the Utes, "the first settlers." The Utes of the White River and Uncompahgre bands had roamed Northwestern Colorado for more than 2,000 years before white settlers arrived, the story noted.

However, archæologists tell me it's more likely Utes arrived in Northwestern Colorado 400 to 700 years ago. We know people lived in mud houses literally down the road from Kremmling and Steamboat Springs at least 6,000 years ago, and there's evidence (projectile points and radio-carbon dating) of people in that area more than 10,000 years ago.

They may have been the grandparents of the Utes, but maybe not.

During recent years two bodies excavated just 40 miles apart were tested with permission of the closest remaining tribe, the Utes. That DNA suggests that those two people, who lived 800 to 900 years apart, reflect two different genetic road maps. In other words, even if one of those bodies was of a Ute, there may well have been other "first" settlers in northwestern Colorado.

This past winter I heard the renowned flutist R. Carlos Nakai perform. He's of Navajo and Ute heritage, and he acknowledges being a Native American. But he also indicated how little that phrase, now so much in vogue, really means. "You, too, are native Americans," he said, while sweeping his hand out toward the 500 people at his concert in Beaver Creek. Few of us looked to have American Indian blood.

In fact, some geneticists and linguists now think there were five separate migrations to the Americas before Columbus or even Leif Ericsson. Can all be called first settlers?

Even once in the Americas, there was considerable movement. The Utes may not have been the first in Northwest Colorado. The Navajos definitely weren't the first in the Four Corners region. They migrated from Canada, probably 1,000 or so years ago, displacing other tribes.

Cheyenne and Arapaho Indians moved to today's Colorado just a few steps ahead of the white settlers in the late 1700s. Similarly, the Lahkota Sioux made the Black Hills their sacred grounds after previous settlement in today's Minnesota.

My great grandparents were among the first settlers of Colorado (1887), although I think few people give a rat's tail about such things. Maybe your ancestors arrived with John Evans and H.A.W. Tabor, and you see my family as a straggler. Does anybody claim Colonel Chivington in the family tree?

Today, ex-Californians hide their origins, but in 60 years their grumpy grandchildren may have "Native" bumper stickers as another wave of immigration occurs. And up in Pinedale and Casper and Laramie, they may already have bumperstickers that say: "Don't Coloradoize Wyoming."

As they say, all things are relative.

Allen Best, formerly of Avon, has decided that Colorado native status doesn't help one whit when selling free-lance writing. He just moved to civilization to edit a new weekly in Lower Downtown Denver.

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Not quite. I'm talking about the time one takes out of their schedule to put back into the community what the community has already given them.

Does that make more sense? Hope so.

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Totally.

I'm Irish.

Pinner, shouldn't you be out partying?