Haha anytime!
So excited about fresh powder tomorrow that I’m hiking up the mountain at 5.30am for a nice run down before the lifts open.
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Thirded. Looking forward to making turns with you guys again next year.
Northwest Slider and Willy having fun at Disentis. These turns were 5 days after the last storm and required no hiking.
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I would buy a time share at Vendul's and I live in fucking Denver.
Michele I remember when we met in Lenzerheide so long ago you spoke of your dreams and plans to make these things happen.. and you have. Much respect.
When we are in Ch next Sharon and I will definitely make plans to stay with you. Also because you are so close to the wonderful towns of Cunter, Spinas and Bever. Not to mention Tschiertschen
Thanks Lee, I really hope you can make it over here!!! Let me know if you need anything to make it happened.
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Oberalpstock after via ferrata
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Walking out the Maderenertal to Bristen after the Oberalpstock:
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Rough cost breakdown for 17 days
Flight on KLM/Airfrance with seat upgrades, no bag fees: $600.
7 day within a month Eurail pass: $350, good for Switzerland, France, Austria and Italy.
2 days Airolo (free lodging, thanks subtle plague) $120*
5 days St. Anton lodging, food, drinks, lifts, guiding for 2 days: $1100.
2 days Davos/Klosters lodging, food, drinks, lifts: $350
5 days SkiArena, St. Moritz, lodging, food, drinks, lifts, guiding: $600*
ZRH lodging night before flight: $130 (btw: the Moevenpick is the best of the ZRH hotels I've used)
Total* : $3250 or about $200/day.
*approximate, cost defrayed by friends
One of the old maxims about skiing in Europe was that Switzerland was more expensive than Austria.
In my experience, this is not the case for St. Anton which was the most expensive stop. Even in Klosters, which is known for the posh life, the Wynegg was $90/night including a killer breakfast and a gourmando dinner there was $75 including tip. venduls place was the best lodging by far on the trip.
If I had beelined to venduls place and just skied around the SkiArena with a side trip to St. Moritz, I would not have needed the Eurail pass and lodging at mt-lodge is half of what I paid in Austria.
It worked out to $1500 a person for me and Mrs. LVS for everything but airfare for 10 days at Mt Lodge Sedrun + a stop in Luzern. That includes food, lift tickets, rail passes and incidentals. Pretty cheap for some of the best skiing I’ve ever had.
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Val Bever route, Corviglia:
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Entrance to Val Roseg:
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Piz Roseg:
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I had wanted to do this route for some time; I didn't even have to ask, Matteo just took us there. I was pretty damn keyed.
buster & lvs, thx for the cost followup
Monte Rosa just barely visible on the horizon over Silsersee:
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You bet; skiing Yurp is cheaper than skiing almost anywhere in N. Am (yes, I know one can do Shames for less....but that's one of the very few exceptions).
Admittedly, I sn00ted around a bit so my left nut could be accommodated in style.
Plus, it's just so easy to do the transits from plane to rail to ski area where they HAVE SKIRACKS ON THE TRAINS.
Crappy pic of Bever, where CascadeLuke left his jacket in an attempt to schmooze with the espresso girl.
I'd love to go here for a day to tour around.
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I'm procrastinating going to another dumbass interview; plus, nudging that slacker norseman.
Guspis exit to the closed and snow covered Gotthard Pass road. Best part about this is that the road is perfectly inclined so one doesn't have to pole or skate out the last miles.
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Lower third of the Guspis, 4:00 pm
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Time for beer and charcuterie:
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That’s pretty much my cost as well and by far the best skiing I’ve experienced, terrain wise and damn near snow wise as well.
My plane ticket was $489rt plus $120 rt for my bag. My total for just myself was $2k. That’s for everything, all food and a $95 lift ticket for the day at st.moritz, train travel etc. This was for 7 days skiing and 8 nights lodging at Venduls.
Planning next year already and the wife is coming with me.
EuroBBI20 potential itinerary:
If Alagna has good snow:
Day 0 land; get to Rueras
Day 1 - 5 Ski Disentis-Andermatt
Day 5 evening drive to Alagna if Alagna has snow (4 hours)
Day 6, 7 Ski Alagna
Day 7 evening drive to La Grave (4 hours)
Day 8-13 Ski La Grave
Day 13 evening drive to Rueras (6 hours)
Day 14 Ski or Leave.
If Alagna has bad snow:
Day 0 land; get to Rueras
Day 1 - 6 Ski Disentis-Andermatt (Klosters/Bivio day trip options?)
Day 6 evening drive to La Grave (6 hours)
Day 7-13 Ski La Grave (Serre Chevalier/Milky Way/Queyras day trip options?)
Day 13 evening drive to Rueras (6 hours)
Day 14 Ski or Leave.
We won’t be able to do the 14 day trip. Thinking 8-10 days due to vacation constraints. Sounds like a killer plan albeit.
OK, good to know.
Is staying in Rueras the priority for most or is there any interest in road tripping to La Grave? We can flex on days.
I haven't skied that many places in Europe, but of the places I've been, it's a toss up between La Grave and Andermatt for my favorite.
We're in the same boat. Frankly, I could be very happy with just staying @ Mt-Lodge and skiing the area. Maybe ticking off Piz Maler this time when weather lines up. My SO ain't the skier that Shroom's wife is, but she likes going fast on groomers and drinking Aperol sprtizs.
I'd also like to day trip from here or there.
I feel like the La Grave trip for me would depend entirely on whether my SO is coming or not.
OK, not trying to force anything, just a suggestion.
I think the only thing that didn't work out was some people not getting to do the Oberalpstock because we weren't definAte about wanting a guide.
Despite its reputation, La Grave does have easier, advanced intermediate routes off the telepherique.
Other options including staying in Monetier Les Bains (Serre Chevalier) which is within 40 minute drive of La Grave or Claviere, Italy in the Milky Way, about an hour from LG. Both of those places would keep intermediates very happy and have an enormous range of snackateriums.
Her eyes were about to put me under a spell but I’ll take full blame for being careless.
Next year for sure with my wife. Would be great to line up some Mt-Lodge with others. That’s all I need plus a day or two in San Moritz area and Michele’s (Vendul) company. He’s an added asset/bonus you would be hard pressed to get at other lodging.
The Ski Arena is hard to beat for price, access, terrain, conditions, and vibe. There are areas for every level skier plus it’s a ski-tour town if that’s your thing.
Meanwhile in Andermatt =- https://www.thelocal.ch/20190404/fli...zurich-airport
Last year, I got blocked in Engelberg when storms shut the highways and trains in late January.
Due to the kindness of a long time maggot, I was able to make it to Goeschenen by car and then Swiss Post bus where Dan Loutrel hooked me up with his family for a killer pow day at Airolo.
I’m planning on another 10 day stint in Rueras with maybe a 2-4 day side trip in St Moritz. There are a lot of lines off the tram at Corvatsch I want to ski next year. Plus maybe a day at that t-bar only place with the gorgeous women serving coffee. What was that place again, heaven?
La Grave sounds neat but not much for the wife to do both on the skiing front and other activities. The train is another nice benefit to Sedrun.
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OK, but I suspect you just want to prance around with the fur clad glitterati in St. Moritz.
;-)
Be sure to do a day at Diavolezza/LaGalb too.
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La Grave sounds neat but not much for the wife to do both on the skiing front and other activities. The train is another nice benefit to Sedrun.
Wasn't part of the appeal of a second location that vendul can have a chance to ski and hang out without being responsible for hosting?
And what about any of the 20 or so lifts networks we saw in the dark while driving back from St Moritz?
I thought so. Let's let things evolve though, maybe the options of Serre Chevalier or the Milky Way haven't settled in.
Gotta say I was blown away by Klosters, about a 3 hour train ride from Sedrun. Bivio looks really cool too, as a bonus to the espresso girls. You'd have to ask vendul about what's worthy in that stretch.Quote:
And what about any of the 20 or so lifts networks we saw in the dark while driving back from St Moritz?
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I have a fun video of Adriano (one of the guides), a friend of ours and me riding down that couloir with a big hangover.... www.vimeo.com/21906508 after the second minute is the couloir
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And far as next year is concern, I will be able to spend time with you here or away from here ‘couse I’ll have an extra person employed... so don’t worry about me, I’ll find the time[emoji12]
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if youre a big lad could end up with an unwanted circumcision
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