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I hope kid ebikes do not become a thing. You ride up the hill so you can ride down the hill. Thats a big life lesson.Quote:
Originally Posted by sethschmautz
Plus to get the kid to the point that they can and will climb a decent amount takes time on the bike that will hopefully help prevent idiot parents bringing kids where they want to ride rather than to a safe place for kids at their skill level to ride...
I liked how he said that ebikes are A DIFFERENT THING than mountain bikes. IE not the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Yeah, I agree with both points. I think I'd look at getting one for him and in time he'll be strong enough to not need the assist. And since he has solid parents :) I wouldn't worry about him needing/wanting the electric until he's on the other end of the spectrum.Quote:
Originally Posted by sethschmautz
Unless the bike is literally going to blow me, I never want to have to charge the fucking thing to go on a ride. Battery life regresses over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Stealing this gem of a response from Facebook: "I’ve got Di2 shifting my E-bike equipped with live valve. I can’t ride this evening though because I’m waiting for my bike to finish syncing with iTunes."
I assume LiveValve will be like the Di2 battery that only needs to be charged every couple months. I'm sure as shit not buying it, but I'd love to read a toast or kidwoo review.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
So, unless you ride a MTB you will never get that lesson? haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtngirl79
I'm waiting for the day that a class 1 e-bike becomes comparably expensive and heavy as a pedal bike in the same ride-category. I feel as though i will be waiting a long, long time haha.
It is the new 'brain'.
Looks like some cool e-bikes with retrofitted tessier sit-sky seats showed up at https://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-...n-vermont.html
Sort of like how hardtails are different. Except ebikes don’t suckQuote:
Originally Posted by mtngirl79
I rode a 6" travel big boy bike with the new Shimano Steps 8000 motor and hi-tech Li-Ion battery yesterday and had way too much fun for my own good. I was crushing hills I'd usually just crawl up and rolling out of uphill corners smoother than I have in 20 years. It's confirmed, I need one :D Especially one that's as competent and lightweight as this one is, heck it's only about 10 pounds heavier than my current steel hardtail.
What bike was that?Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
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Ya curious on the bike as well. Batteries are projected to be half the size/weight in the next couple years. I’d imagine they’d retro fit
Be very skeptical of that. Maybe 7-8 years. Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Yeah. If there's one consistent thing about the bike industry over the last 7 years or so, it's that everything has been retrofit-able.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
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Haha no money will be bet on either prediction. One Emtb forum was told by companies 2-3 years for charge to be doubled. New battery tech being developed. I thought battery tech had pretty much maxed out. Half size could shed 4-6 lbs depending on model
Yeah, I'd be shocked if it shrinks that much. Samsung is the leader so keep an eye on them. What pisses me off is the lack of recycling with the lithium right now. It needs to be more cost effective to do and these large corporations should make it happen with their billions.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Lol... POTD! E-boost-bikes!Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
Toboggan reeeeally wants a longer charge for his quiver of ebikes
Correction, it’s in here. He saw it on Netflix not from a bike co(over 10 years it will be 2-3 times longer charge)
I like the bike in the vid too.dialed numbers in the travel I’m after. Toss up between this and the commencal. Both have the numbers I’m after and best price. Win win
I think you're thinking about this all wrong. Think of the day when everybody has an ebikes and parents buy non motorized bikes to slow themselves down so their kids can keep up. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by mtngirl79
In all seriousness, though, do you have kids? A lot of people have really strong ideas about how people should parent that make a lot of sense when they don't have any kids of their own. The fact of the matter is that every kid is different and different things will get them excited about riding. Are you fundamentally against a kid riding an ebike but okay with a kid riding a chairlift and riding their bike down?
Nearby in Whitefish, my wife and I rode a trail and ran across a bunch of families going the other direction. They weren't on ebikes, but they DID just ride the bus up to the local ski resort with their bikes and were riding down the trail on some really great singletrack all the way to town. Those kids, because of their time spent riding down, had better singletrack skills than my 6yo who doesn't enjoy climbing very much.
If a bus, a chairlift or an ebike helps a kid get excited about mountain biking because of the thrill of going down, then I am not fundamentally against it. I feel the same way about chairlifts and touring. My hope is that my kids love downhill skiing, develop solid downhill skills and then let me take them into the backcountry.
To each his own.
Seth
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I gave you a heads up a few pages back.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
I don't know about half the size and weight but I'm pretty sure that by the end of '19 there will be a couple of bikes out there that will be able to do a long mileage, overnight, backcountry ride with no range anxiety in a sub 45# (20kg) package. The one I was on yesterday will pretty easily get a rider nearly 50 miles of mildly assisted riding or ~40 miles with more assist but nothing crazy or ~3 hours of unnecessary but silly fun boosted riding. That next gen package won't retro fit to the current package so do you wait or...
Oh ok, I thought you had just tried it. Wasn’t aware you had one in rotation. The only thing on their site is “e urban”Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
Won’t be long now before we see the big release of ‘19 models. Eurobike vids didn’t seem to show all the offerings. The big S has a big unveiling soon. Focus and lapierre have a shit ton of models and they’re all in on the e thing. Still not seeing as many models as I’d hoped with the fazau motor system
Or so. Every year or two there's a new battery "breakthrough" in a lab. The rate of change outside of research labs is sloooooooooooooow.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Was just saying today that the Pivot Shuttle would be pretty nice for our local trails in the winter. The dirt road grind up is moderately tolerable when warm and dry. Gets way harder to motivate when it’s rolling slowly or icy and extra layers on the way up turn into cold sweat on the way down.
27.5+ and a motor with 150mm of travel might be just the ticket if money ever becomes plentiful again.
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Feeling spendy and sendy last night and ordered an E-bike. Shipping today so I should have it next week. Got an extra battery as well that I can stash along my 30-50 mile routes I have planned. Futures so Bright!
2018-haibike-xduro schwing!
Holy shit. I think I'd rather go heli skiing for a week... twice. But hey, if you can afford to spend that on an e-bike, good for you. 38.5 pounds is impressively light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
I'm genuinely curious why anyone would buy that over a Shuttle or S-Works Turbo Levo. It's significantly fuglier, suspension seems undergunned, and doesn't even include a dropper yet costs an extra $7k. Baffling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
Bought the wife and I a couple Specialized Turbo Kenovos. Took them on a 100 mile singletrack ride around the high country this weekend to break em in. Crazy to ride that much trail in a day and not even be that tired.
They should be perfect for our road trip to the PNW next week. Planning on hitting up Galbraith before heading up to BC.
Fox 34. Magura MT8s. And the Haibikes are notorious for batteries failing ( who supplies and QA them?l)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
The Levo would be better
Who makes the Levo battery? I'm skeptical of that one via a quick search.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Bosch is most likely a Samsung. Their power tools have been Samsung for a while.
I believe that was sarcasm. Kinda pricy, right?
Agreed. My response was playing along but assuming he didn't actually buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
I did about 10 miles on it, it's in the corporate demo rotation now. Keep your eyes open for the press release over the next few weeks. The urban ones are just meh but I'm not into the draggy Bosch system.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
By the time I need one of these things they'll be dialed. Until then wave as you pass me on the up.
Pretty much how i feel too haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Yeah, I got the sarcasm. Regardless, there doesn't seem to be any logical reason for that bike to exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
No, I don’t think ya did, Dan. But anyhoo, carry on.
Me too, neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
If I thought he was serious I just would have called him an idiot and left it at that.
i thought he was serious for a sec until I saw the wheels- so heinous I knew he would never do that