50 years to the day

Gaza and Israel were about to reach a ceasefire agreement. Then twenty-four Western countries demanded that Israel implement an immediate unilateral ceasefire. Hamas, welcoming and emboldened by so much support, backed away from terms it had already agreed to. Yet another example of Western Palestinian activists & Western media compelling politicians into prolonging the war.

Gazans now routinely protest against international media & reporters for refusing to cover any Palestinian criticism of Hamas and for their pro-Hamas coverage. The BBC even had to pull its documentary "Gaza: How To Survive a Warzone" from its streaming service and decided not to broadcast another documentary, "Gaza: Doctors Under Attack" because the production company was controlled by Hamas. The documentary was even narrated by the son of a Hamas government official

What is a good low-bias news source these days on this topic?

The German DW news has a English language version that I think is decent.

No idea whom to believe anymore. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/w...-android-share

The NYTimes coverage is focused on putting out one story and, unthinkably, its truth and accuracy are not the drivers of what it writes. That’s because accurate reports would not sell nearly as well as its smears.

Take note of the qualified headline: “No proof Hamas routinely stole UN aid.” Hamas steals aid. There’s a reason NYT worded it that way. Because it's not in dispute Hamas steals aid. There's video of Hamas stealing aid and there's multiple videos of Hamas shooting Palestinians at UN aid sites. When Hamas isn't stealing aid entirely, Hamas taxes aid which is resold in markets. Hamas even posts videos of themselves feasting on aid.

Also note of the deliberate subheading accusing Israel of causing starvation in Gaza while burying the fact that over the past couple of months the UN deliberately fails to collect and distribute truckloads of aid. The UN repeatedly went days at a time without collecting any aid at all. This past week alone the UN held back 950 trucks filled with the humanitarian aid needed to alleviate the suffering of Gazans. Earlier this week the IDF showed dozens of international journalists, including journalists representing the NYT, large parking lots filled with aid inside Gaza that the UN was refusing to collect:

https://i.postimg.cc/zfFrXh76/Aid-2.png

The UN has since started collecting aid again after the public shaming. The IDF also sent the NYT proof showing how Hamas systematically exploits humanitarian aid to fund its terrorist activities, which the article acknowledges towards the end. And contrary to the article's initial framing, since May, there has been no limits or restrictions on the number of humanitarian aid trucks that can enter Gaza. The biggest restriction over the past several months has been the UN refusing to collect & distribute aid inside Gaza.

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The NYTimes coverage is focused on putting out one story and, unthinkably, its truth and accuracy are not the drivers of what it writes. That&rsquo;s because accurate reports would not sell nearly as well as its smears. Take note of the qualified headline: &ldquo;No proof Hamas routinely stole UN aid.&rdquo; Hamas steals aid. There&rsquo;s a reason NYT worded it that way. Because it&#39;s not in dispute Hamas steals aid. There&#39;s video of Hamas stealing aid and there&#39;s multiple videos of Hamas shooting Palestinians at UN aid sites. When Hamas isn&#39;t stealing aid entirely, Hamas taxes aid which is resold in markets. Hamas even posts videos of themselves feasting on aid. Also note of the deliberate subheading accusing Israel of causing starvation in Gaza while burying the fact that over the past couple of months the UN deliberately fails to collect and distribute truckloads of aid. The UN repeatedly went days at a time without collecting any aid at all. This past week alone the UN held back 950 trucks filled with the humanitarian aid needed to alleviate the suffering of Gazans. Earlier this week the IDF showed dozens of international journalists, including journalists representing the NYT, large parking lots filled with aid inside Gaza that the UN was refusing to collect: https://i.postimg.cc/zfFrXh76/Aid-2.png The UN has since started collecting aid again after the public shaming. The IDF also sent the NYT proof showing how Hamas systematically exploits humanitarian aid to fund its terrorist activities, which the article acknowledges towards the end. And contrary to the article&#39;s initial framing, since May, there has been no limits or restrictions on the number of humanitarian aid trucks that can enter Gaza. The biggest restriction over the past several months has been the UN refusing to collect &amp; distribute aid inside Gaza.

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Really great not to have heard from multiverse for a few weeks. I wonder what he thinks of more countries saying they're going to recognize Palestine and how Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Fuck, even MTG calling it.

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Really great not to have heard from multiverse for a few weeks. I wonder what he thinks of more countries saying they're going to recognize Palestine and how Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Fuck, even MTG calling it.

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MTG is a tankie, so that checks out. Recall Hamas visiting Moscow.

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MTG is a tankie, so that checks out. Recall Hamas visiting Moscow.

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Not up on the term but I know she's a pain in the ass. And as far as visiting Moscow, yeah so what? If the USA hates you you go to Moscow that's just how the game is played. Regardless perceptions are changing and the world is telling Israel their policies are fucked up.

live2ski and MTG, two Quaaludes in need of an inhaler new pairs of underwear. Two morons praising Starmer who accidentally incentivized Hamas to reject a ceasefire - makes perfect sense. A few Western politicians said they'd recognize Palestine in order to placate a vocal minority domestic audience with pious declarations that removed any incentive for compromise and — shockingly — sabotaged an imminent ceasefire and hostage release. Crazy how easy it is for low info morons to fall for the manufactured media consensus now trying to exonerate Hamas.

While Hamas sets the Western imagination on fire, in response Arab states called on Hamas to surrender. Countries in the region understand fanatic fascists who filmed their mass murder of Jews are bad for stability everywhere. Not just in Israel. Lebanon officially approved plans to disarm Hezbollah permanently, removing all their weapons and rockets. Shortly after the AP wrote a story calling Hezbollah's murderous, radicalized commanders were "survivors" and victims, even as Lebanon's own government made the decision that Hezbollah must be disarmed.

If countries like Lebanon are ever to be stable, prosperous and free then people like live2ski, who know nothing about history or the Middle East, and who side with fanatical Islamists need to sidelined. Modern. Day. Useful. Idiots. Better informed people understand why the Arab League condemned the October 7th attack and called on Hamas to release all hostages and lay down its arms

Reads like AI

sadly, the simple truth about Hamas's war in Gaza is to maximize Palestinian suffering, and then have Westerners blame Israel. The Bodywhompers' of the world reality confusion, willfully confusing reality with AI for example, is Hamas's main asset

I only counted two Betelgeuses

If you whisper mcski three times, a Hamas "freedom fighter" materializes in the mirror

Still reads like AI gibberish

lol, that's also what old guy bodywhomper said about the Beatles and their yeah, yeah, yeah's

Arab nations call for Hamas to disband and disarm.

No thought, just a jab
When wit runs dry, insults drip
Silence would speak more.

One of the few upsides of the site going to shit lol

Yeah, most days when the site was working Hamas supporters like mcski felt like Mussolini. On the upside, when it wasn't he felt like Mussolini in Italy.

@ bodywhomper: to wit, Arab nations also called on Hamas to release the hostages. Those three things 1) release the hostages 2) disarm Hamas 3) end Hamas political rule means Arab states' goals, even the Qataris are giving up on Hamas, are now aligned with Israel's goals in its war of defense against Hamas

Israeli settlement that would split the occupied West Bank in half was approved this morning.

&ldquo;The Palestinian state is being erased from the table not by slogans but by deeds. Every settlement, every neighborhood, every unit is another nail in the coffin of this dangerous idea,&rdquo; Smotroch declared.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotri...al-greenlight/

https://bsky.app/profile/diplomatofn.../3lwtxhdhdgs2j

Watched a movie a while back,”The Last Rifleman”. In it Pierce Bronson, the lead, is on a bus of German veterans traveling to D day commemoration. One of the Germans said something to the effect, “Losing was bad, but being on the wrong side of history is much worse”. Hamas is a vile organization the has committed atrocities and is willing to sacrifice it’s mothers sons and daughters as human shields. Despite that it is quite clear to most of the world that Israel is on the wrong side of history.

Israel is in fact on the right side of history. The wrong side of history is urging another generation of Arabs to waste their lives fighting another unending unwinnable war against Israel, Radical activists in the West should call out Hamas's Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Russia instead of whinging about Israel. Accusing Israel of being on the wrong side of history is a luxury belief completely divorced from reality. Too many people believe truth is socially constructed and that by controlling the narrative they can control the outcome. They're wrong.

But don't take my word for it. Arab press & media from around the world is increasingly calling for an end to Jihad against Israel:

"A grave-like silence hangs over the Arab public, untouched by the seismic events shaking the region. No demonstrations, no protests, no sit-ins can be found across Arab capitals – an unprecedented absence, perhaps for the first time in seven decades or more.

Iran, meanwhile, has endured devastating blows. Its military setbacks and the damage to its nuclear infrastructure are immense, representing the loss of billions of dollars and countless lives, and years of labor. Beyond its ballistic and nuclear ambitions, Tehran has also seen the erosion of its vast network of influence – a popular movement painstakingly cultivated across the Arab world from Iraq to Morocco.

When the Lebanese government made the audacious decision to confiscate Hezbollah’s weapons, the reaction amounted to little more than a few dozen motorcycles roaming the streets of Beirut in protest. So where are the millions once summoned by the party’s leader or by Tehran itself?

The collapse of Iranian influence across the Arab sphere echoes the unraveling of Nasserism after the crushing defeat of 1967. Stripped of its ability to ignite the street, Nasser’s regime fell back on choreographed displays – pressing Socialist Party loyalists and labor unions into filling venues – after spontaneous, fervent crowds that had once surged into public squares in response to the magnetic pull of radio broadcasts dwindled away.

What remained was a collective sense of shock and despair in a region that had long pinned its hopes on the liberation of Palestine.

Iran, too, once commanded a similar popular reach. It defied attempts to ban its ideas, molding generations of Arabs through ideology and outreach. Tehran embraced Sunni extremists – including al-Qaeda figures – despite their anti-Shi’ite dogma, and threw support behind Sunni opposition movements challenging their regimes.

It forged organic ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, held semiannual conferences for Arab nationalists and Communists, and invested heavily in cultivating intellectuals and artists. Poems, books, and speeches extolling the virtues of the imam’s regime poured forth, while Tehran’s reach extended across Shi’ite, Sunni, and Christian circles, drawing in voices from the Gulf, Egypt, the Levant, North Africa, Sudan, Yemen, and Western Arab diasporas. Many Arab media outlets echoed Khamenei’s messaging.

Somehow, Tehran managed to reconcile contradictions that seemed irreconcilable. In Tripoli, a city marked by historic tension with the Shi’ites of Beirut, Sunni factions remained loyal to Tehran since the 1980s. In Jordan, elements of the Muslim Brotherhood pledged allegiance to Tehran’s leadership. Publications appeared across the region defending its policies, while conferences in the Gulf celebrated sectarian “rapprochement” under historical banners.

Yet none of this was undertaken in the name of God or to genuinely heal sectarian rifts; it was always part of a calculated political project aimed at domination. For decades, Tehran orchestrated both elite circles and street movements across Arab cities, mobilizing protests not only against regimes but against films, novels, and peace negotiations.

But since the wars following the October 7, 2023 attacks, that once-unshakable dynamism has evaporated. The reasons are clear: People turn away from the defeated, and the agencies that fueled these movements have seen their lines of communication severed and their resources dry up. The Arab street venerates victors and abandons them when they fall, only to embrace the next rising force.

Iran’s followers have been stunned by repeated defeats, just as Nasser’s admirers were traumatized by the failures of the 1960s. Today, the central challenge is whether Tehran can retain even its Shi’ite base, which has borne the greatest burden and remains in shock.

Sooner or later, Lebanon’s Shi’ites will confront a painful realization: They are victims of Hezbollah and Iran, not beneficiaries. For four decades, they have carried the weight of this alliance, suffering economic collapse, the destruction of their neighborhoods, and punitive sanctions targeting their livelihoods and remittances from Africa, Latin America, and North America. What they have endured is not the empowerment of a community, but the crushing cost of serving as Tehran’s front line."

– Abdulrahman Al-Rashed writing for Asharq al-Awsat

Absolutely the Arab nations should cease their Jihad against Israel. In no way does that put Israel in the right.