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Not everyone fell for it. The problem is those who fell for it yelled shit like this so loud to drown out those that didn't fall for it and many others hopped on to 'feel american'. So shouting at those still against it with all the damning evidence now is just worse behaviour and setting up to do something even stupider next time. Admit and learn from your mistakes don't scream how you couldn't help it and everyone else made you do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
No, but I do think you're gay 99.998% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Range Lobster
Sorry for the reality, skiddouche.
I'm going to have to throw out a "LOL" for the first time in years. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKPogue
But seriously, Godspeed to you and all of our soldiers. I'm glad I'm not over there no matter what the agenda or who's doing what. Cheers.
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Santorum
Pronunciation: san-TOR-um
Function: noun
Etymology: Savage Love - 05/29/03
1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.
Prolly? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
Have a drink and relax coreshot. Or don't, your "shut the fuck up" hysterical rant is pretty amusing.
I support and honor our troops who risk life and limb. I wish the shrub administration would do the same, with deeds rather than empty words and slogans.
and let them fight. the rules of engagement in an arab shithole should be "if it moves. kill it"
I tell you one thing - our troops, no matter if they agree or disagree with what is going on, protected or not protected, they do their jobs no questions asked. Absolutely god damned right they do.
I still can't believe how many liberal media brainwashed fucktards this site contains.
Seriously, how did you people survive being so stupid for so long?
Al-qaida attacks happen in Iraq about every week, and still you douchebag dumbfucks still don't get it.
Remember 9-11? We're fighting those fuckers over there...get it?
Yeah, Bush lied to you for your own good. While you were busy calling him dumb, he was attacking the people that attacked us. Instead of you people getting a clue, you bit the hand that feeds (and protects) you.
It's unreal how incredibly dumb a lot of you dolts are.
I swear you carry your political douchebaggery simply cause it seems to be the "hip" thing to do.
Like Coreshot said, think independently...and I'll add, read between the lines. Fucking idiots.
How about you stand up for the country you live in instead of constantly trying to bring it down? The only thing worse than our enemies are you. You're like a cancer that turns on itself and kills what spawned you. Fucking morons. Get fuct. bye
Hurricane,
Remember that Al-Qaeda was not present in Iraq until after we invaded...previously the only terrorist group in Iraq was Ansar-al-Islam, although Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was hanging out in Iraq from time to time (although I don't believe he'd lived up to his full potential yet at that point).
However, once we invaded Iraq that provided plenty of vitriol for Arabs, and it became convenient for every possible jihadist out there to take their fight to the Americans in probably the best public arsenal possible - just like Tito's Yugoslavia, there were weapons caches throughout the country so fighting the Americans for whatever reason was really easy to do. Thus, enter the Al-quaeda yahoos that can't fight us in Afghanistan/Pakistan for whatever reason...
btw much respect goes out to experience/views of rotorhead and ak_pogue, they've spent far more time on the ground in Iraq than I have.
bump. for some reason the post didn't bump...
Thanks Jumper for pointing out what ought to be painfully obvious. My respect also to rotorhead and pogue for risking their lives in service to our country.
Keep spewing Hurricaine, I always find your vitriolic ignorance pretty amusing!
Quit saying you "support the troops".Quote:
Originally Posted by natty dread
That's the dumbest fucking load of shit that keeps being brought up.
Support them in their cause and their mission. Once you do that, you can say you support the troops.
Is my "vitriolicness" offending little Natty? Quit posting left wing agenda garbage, douchebag.
Jumper, we went there after WMDs. We spent a couple of months to do it, which was more than enough time for the WMDs to be shipped elsewhere.
Saddam financially supported Palestinian suicide bombing attacks against the Israelis, which is what 9-11 was all about. Our funding of Israel.
Like I said, you've gotta read between the lines, which the left dumbfucks clearly can't do. (they'd rather bring their own country to it's knees)
Oh, this is getting fun!
I support the troops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
No, I said I found it amusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
I'll post whatever I want, as you will.
Hahaha riiiiight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
No, I'd rather protect our troops from this incompetent, lying administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
all very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Jumper Bones
Is everything GW's fault? NO ,but lets see,what's been going down in groove town.1st prez to not veto a single bill in the 1st term & 1/2 of the 2nd.The only bill that has been vetoed is Stem Cell Research.1st Prez to take a 5 Trillion dollar surplus & turn into a 5 trillion dollar deficit in a couple of years.1st Prez to have a war & tax cuts at the same time.The illegal wiretapping of citizens.150 dumbasses from Pat Roberts U are running our government.Monica Goodling is 33 years old,has no law experience, & graduated from a 4th tier (the lowest there is)law school,namely the one above ,& IS THE 3RD MOST POWERFUL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL IN OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!! Why did 11 Billion go missing in Iraq,becase ferverent religious dip sh*ts were put in charge of money that had no business or economic background or experience. They were simply hired because of their religious beliefs.
There are repair depots filled with vehicles as far as the eye can see that are back logged because of lack of money. The Dragonteeth armor being called inferior because of Military leaders wanting to work for contractors of rival systems after their service is up. The firing of any officer in the Brass that disagrees with Rumy. I can't beleive somebody actually stuck up for that *sshole! The cherry picking of info for the Iraq war. AL Queda in Iraq my *ss! Sadaam & Iraq were SECULAR & hated Islamic movements.GW put Al Queda in Iraq.The awarding of Dickless Cheney's company to no bid contracts.Lets not forget that Rumy,Cheney & the lot were Saddam's buddies during the Reagan Admin & gave him WMD's ,weapons, intel & billions of dollars the form of "agriculture" loans through the Bank Nationale of Italy because he was fighting the Iranians whom these Reaganites also sold arms to illegally!The list is endless.
I'm sorry to disagree with some, but the reality is that he is the worst prez in the history of our country,PERIOD!!! GW is the one that has brought this country down ,& even though I didn't vote for him,ALL Americans are guilty of letting this happen to our country.
I know, I know, but it was for Hurricane's benefit. Which is why it addressed him...Quote:
Originally Posted by natty dread
Then how do you explain Ansar-al-Islam and Zarqawi being present in Iraq with the Iraqi gov't's blessing?Quote:
Originally Posted by freshie247
I don't think ANYBODY in that neighborhood is really 'secular', just some are less fervent that others.
Were it not for the invasion, Al Qaeda would still be plenty active in Southwest Asia.
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Good point about Monica Goodling. Yeah, I thought she looked a little young...
Hurricane - you really gotta learn the finer points of debate. Your posts are ok, I suppose, but I think "Natty - you're the gayest douchebag on TGR - and that says a lot!" would be far more effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Supporting the cause and mission would only be supporting the administration that decided their cause and mission. It's not like the troops sat down and decided what to do and how. By extension if the Shrub decided to invade Mexico or Switzerland or China once the troops were there everyone would have to support 'the cause and mission' because the troops are there and that's how you support the troops even if you are only supporting young people to their graves in a war that is and will go no where. How about supporting a cause and mission because it was justified and right like Afghanistan not like Iraq which was based on lies and had very little in the way of planning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Can you even reason your way out of a parking spot you fucking moron?
How about you stop posting the right wing moronic technique of yelling louder insults instead of putting together anything that resembles a reasoned counterpoint. Guys like you really make right wingers look like fucking idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Actually the UN spent 18 months looking for WMDs which was plenty of time to conclude there weren't any which has been confirmed over the last 4 years of occupation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Palestine is a whole other kettle of fish but just because one group targets occupiers and another targets innocents that are uninvolved doesn't mean they share the same resposibility. If someone runs over you cat and in a fit of rage you slash the guy's tires then later someone murders that guy are you now responsible for his murder?
First pull your head out of your ass, then think, then type, then smoke all the crack you want.
You mean fictionalize like the Bush admin did to justify this war. Ignore the facts and make up your own shit 'between the lines' to justify whatever you want to do for whatever reason you do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
That's great that you actually support that shit. I hope you're the next one picked up by homeland security and held for daily assraping without due process, maybe because you have some dope or a gun or just because you're too stupid to be out in public.
[QUOTE=Jumper Bones;1315482]Then how do you explain Ansar-al-Islam and Zarqawi being present in Iraq with the Iraqi gov't's blessing?
I don't think ANYBODY in that neighborhood is really 'secular', just some are less fervent that others.
Were it not for the invasion, Al Qaeda would still be plenty active in Southwest Asia.Quote]
They were small groups of these imbeciles in the semi autonomous mountain areas after the 1st Gulf War because Hussein lost a lot of his previous power & couldn't control Iraq like he used to,for example the Kurdish areas.So the US by proxy put them there. Saddam was full on secular ,& only feigned an interest in religion when he was getting his ass kicked in war. Women were educated,could drive,& held high office in his admin.Not many secular muslim countries allow those things.
Any disparities in Saddams philosophies on religion were only there because he feared being taken out of power & would try most anything to remain in power.
True AL Queda is big in SE asia, but last I checked, Iraq isn't SE. Asia.
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Originally Posted by L7
Just curious, what do you do with people like Georges Sada? I don't hear anybody disputing his claims of being a high ranking Iraqi general and he claims that the WMD were moved to Syria when an invasion became imminent.
I need to add that I have no dog in this hunt. It makes no difference to me what justification Bush made leading up to the war. I think Saddam should have been removed in the mid 90s when he began violating the term of the cease fire he agreed to after Gulf War I.
I'm just curious what people, who care about whether or not there were WMD in Iraq, do with George Sada and others(I think a general in Israel was saying the same thing, but I don't remember who it was) who claim that there were WMD in Iraq and were moved prior to invasion. Do you just dismiss them? Not important? Are they not credible? There's not enough people saying that to pay attention to it????
What I would like to know, is under what conditions did Sada state the claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by MeatPuppet
I bet you'd state that you were behind the Kennedy-murder (though you might not have even been born yet), if peeps were running 12 V from yer left testicle to yer right...
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Originally Posted by hemas
You are jumping the gun a bit. But the result might be the same. He is getting paid a lot of money to travel around the US and make appearances on a book tour.
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...and before somebody accuses me of answering my own question...
Any time anybody has something controversial to say, they will be able to find people willing to pay them to say it. This fact doesn't validate or invalidate what they have to say. If it did, anybody who ever writes a book would be instantly discredited.
Huh, I never knew the IRA, FARC, Shining Path and ETA were muslim. Learn something new every day. Thanks Jer, you are truly brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
As said, I asked under what circumstance has he said this and that...Quote:
Originally Posted by MeatPuppet
True, he might be telling the truth... But then again, he might be lying for financial gain... Just like a few other I know...Quote:
Any time anybody has something controversial to say, they will be able to find people willing to pay them to say it. This fact doesn't validate or invalidate what they have to say. If it did, anybody who ever writes a book would be instantly discredited.
But all this is beside the issue...
The issue at hand is, that if you're going to have your military personal in a "hostile" environment, your countries leaders should also make sure they grunts have all the necessary equipment they need...
Hence George W is kind of a bigot... Give nice speeches about supporting the troops, and yet don't do it him self. And yes, he is indeed the leader of your country, so he DOES have the power to give your grunts what they need, IF HE WOULD BOTHER TO PUT SOME EFFORT:cussing:.
which is why I said Southwest Asia...that's military-ese for 'the persian gulf region' or arabia or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by freshie247
Regarding the supposed WMD evacuations to Syria, there is pretty strong rumor amongst the military of some of that...specifically a number of Iraqi Airways flights made out of Baghdad Int'l to Syria, that were specifically allowed to fly through our fighter screens. While Iraqi Airways did operate cargo airplanes (Il-76s, and I don't recall seeing those particular airplanes sitting at Baghdad Int'l when I've been through - just some 727s, 737s, and a 747, plus that DHL A310), they just as easily could have been full of Iraqi leadership and their families - a major part of our invasion was bribing the Iraqi chain of command under Saddam to not follow his orders. Probably more than a few wanted to be set up out of the country.
I think that's all the more interesting considering how substantial our air cover over Iraq was, and that we eventually bombed the runways at Baghdad Int'l. When my unit started flying in there, we were using the taxiways until the runways could be repaired (pretty sketch considering you were taking off *right next* to parked airplanes, pretty small wingtip clearance, it was like flying from an aircraft carrier - gets interesting when you're flying big cargo planes). I think the runways might not have been bombed until after those airplanes had made it out.
Oh yeah - you're right. Totally. Muslims only commit, like, 40% of all terrorist acts. I just heard Bader-Mienhof took over a Chuckee-Cheese in Ohio. Douche.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowtron
The Symbionese Liberation Army is also making a big comeback. Ha Ha. Moron.
You say were, I say are. Let's call the whole thing off. I suppose I should have stipulated that I was referring to the present just for all the dipshits.