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Originally Posted by skiflorida
It would appear someone has been doing some reading.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/am....chavez.gi.jpg
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Originally Posted by skiflorida
It would appear someone has been doing some reading.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/am....chavez.gi.jpg
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Originally Posted by David Witherspoon
Yeah, I think the poor are better off today than they were 10 years ago. You always eat well the night you kill the golden goose, but tomorrow you starve.
Nice! April is alps, prolly.... and I've been to Huayhuash, so somewhere else is on the list down south.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
I just skimmed the surface of Lima - and Barranco had much better surface strata, but I imagine things are better underneath.
chomsky does not preach an idealology, simply a critizism to one. the idea by chavez to align himself with the american anti-neocon movement is not anything more then an effort to draw support from within the country he persceives to be exerting a modernized version of the monroe doctrine on s.america. think what you will. just be as willing to question the sources of your "information" as those who question it. btm chomsky is known internationally as a linguist, not a politition or pholisopher
as for the golden goose idea; oil will not be "dead" for at least a few decades, althoug it will become extremely more rare (despite this weeks price drops) those who keep the goose alive have the most to benifit. do not doubt that this is at the head of chaves' thoughts
I agree, on all points...except that Chomsky is known as a linguist in academic circles, and a very well respected one at that. But outside the world of academia he is known for his political thoughts. I'll admit, I haven't read any of his political/social books. But I am beginning to think I need to pick a few of them up just to be culturally literate. He seems to be popping up more frequently in recent days.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiflorida
Edit: Oil was not the goose I was referring to.
than you haven't read ANY of his books. i agree that chomskys' ideas seem to be more relevant then ever but his current observations are just as revolutionary as those that are currently being "realized" by the general public. it would do us all some good to create a distance from the corporate nature of our society and may just provide our salvationQuote:
I'll admit, I haven't read any of his political/social books
this can't be helping the democrats any...
classic. LOLQuote:
September 21, 2006
GOP Funds Ahmadinejad-Chavez Speaking Tour
by Scott Ott
(2006-09-21) — The Republican National Committee (RNC) today offered to fund a coast-to-coast U.S. speaking tour featuring Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, in the weeks leading up to November’s Congressional elections.
The offer comes in the wake of two days of public remarks by the two foreign leaders before the United Nations, the Council on Foreign Relations and U.S. news media. Their diplomatic pronouncements included…
– denying the Holocaust,
– calling the U.S. president “the devil“,
– praying at the U.N. for the return of Islam’s fabled 12th Imam,
– praising Cuban dictator Fidel Castro,
– insisting any nation has the right to develop nuclear technology,
– portraying the United States as the locus of evil in the modern world, and
– plugging Noam Chomsky’s book “Hegemony or Survival: America’s Quest for Global Dominance.”
“President Bush can talk about his national security plan and foreign policy all day long,” said an unnamed RNC spokesman, “But no one makes a more compelling case than the duo of Mahmoud and Hugo. We want to make sure every American has an opportunity to hear these important world leaders.”
The Republican source said sponsoring the pre-election Ahmadinejad-Chavez speaking tour was also a way of “reaching across the aisle to help our colleagues in the Democrat party to get their message out, so the American voter can make an informed decision.”
Actually Venezuela is an OPEC country. Continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiflorida
He's not a dictator, but political dissent and criticism of his government are not exactly encouraged. It may not be Cuba or China, but his country is hardly a shining beacon of free and open goverment.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
When'd that become a requirement for the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Didn't you get the memo? I'm sure they sent out a memo....
Perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
But this demonization is out of all proportion to what he or his government are actually doing - most of which is far less worrying than regimes we are happy to buddy up with.
It's just Bush picking pointless fights with the wrong guy again. Going to war to spread democracy in some places yet attacking it's results in others.
They still do? The Gotti administration has a longer paper trail than WQuote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
Last I checked Bush wasn't the one trying to pick a fight with Chavez.
Never said it was, just noting that the moral high ground claimed by both sides is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by cj001f
I think of most Latin America politicians as jokes. The US ones are rushing to join them in buffoonery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Definetly not on the same level, but, Michelle Bachelet, president of Chile, rang the bell at the NYSE today. She did'nt look very happy, but what do you expect from a socialist?
Plenty of credible evidence to suggest W was bollocks deep in the 2002 coup attempt....unless you choose to accept U.S. denials at face value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
If they didn't pick the fight they certainly escalated it?
La Mar and T´anta are Gaston´s more downscale options and have served me some of the best meals I´ve ever had. There is also a great new Causa place across the street from La Mar (and usually I don´t even like Causa). Segundo Muelle is the safest choice for ceviche, but there are some really great options in more out of the way spots like Magdellena del Mar...Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Pisco en Lima, no good. Go to Ica. Free for all on what gets labelled "private stock" at prices 50-90% cheaper.
Social Democrat != Socialist:nonono2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
Care to back that up with some facts?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
You know where to look and I know you don't trust U.S. denials of it's illicit involvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
:)
Sham, are you still living in Ica?
MMM...Causa....
Have you been to my friend's restaurant in Chincha?
You know...that upscale place right in the Grifa....
Project in Ica is in transition mode and so am i... New address will probably be Lima (till New Year at least).Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Have not been to grifa/gourmet restaurant, but if it´s on the Panamericana i´ve passed it at least 20 times. got a name?
From Rep Rangle as stated on the Drudge Report:
AN ATTACK ON BUSH IS AN ATTACK ON ALL AMERICANS...Think he knows that the 1st amendment applies to anyone with a temporary visa?Quote:
'You do not come into my country, my congressional district, and you do not condemn my president. If there is any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans, whether they voted for him or not. I just want to make it abundantly clear to Hugo Chavez or any other president, do not come to the United States and think because we have problems with our president that any foreigner can come to our country and not think that Americans do not feel offended when you offend our Chief of State'...
I'M not a big fan of Rep Rangle but I do like the fact that he is bitch slappin Chavez. The same way as if I were to get into a fight with my brother and some dood comes over to my house and calls my bro a dick or something then it's a fight. Or if I'm not happy with my mom and someone calls her a bitch. Only Americans get to call the Pres a moron or a devil.Quote:
Originally Posted by TacomaLuv
Rep Rangle needs a kick in the nutsQuote:
Originally Posted by TacomaLuv
That's going to be news to the majority of people on the planetQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuckerman
Its not a first amendment issue, more a common courtesy.........Quote:
Originally Posted by TacomaLuv
He is just trying to help Dem's cover their asses as some of what Chavez is saying sounds very similar to what dem leadership as been saying for the last for years. Rangel and Dem leadership would rather the US voting public did not align the democratic party with a guy like Chavez.
Bullshit. Anyone is free to call him whatever they like, anytime.
Freedom of speech is a global concept.
That being said, Bush is a fucktard of the highest order.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
It's not like we don't get hyperbolic over people who've tried to attack us.
Well put.Quote:
Originally Posted by CUBUCK
Hugo should be asked to host the daily show when John Stewart is on vacation:
"He walks like this cowboy John Wayne," said Chavez. "He doesn't have the slightest idea of politics. He got where he is because he is the son of his father. He was an alcoholic, an ex-alcoholic. He's a sick man, full of complexes, but very dangerous now because he has a lot of power."
Chavez called Bush a "menace" and a "threat against life on the planet."
In the United States, rich people are getting richer, and poor people are getting poorer, he said. "That's not a democracy; that's a tyranny."
Great stuff Chav! Keep it coming and please include some remarks about Cheney and Rumsfeld.
...and how communism really was misunderstood and how Castro is the mang and Che is a martyr and how great your campesinos now have it and then just shut the hell up and lead your country.
I do not like Bush. He is POTUS, however, and you better respect that. He's MY problem, not yours. I don't like Chirac, but wouldn't call him an ass in front of the UN General assembly.
Another vote for this point of view. You have the *right* to say your mother in law is a psycho, but you don't say it at thanksgiving dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by CUBUCK
That's too easy. Care to back up your glib empty rhetoric?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...688071,00.html
The US has been busily toppling populist leaders and installing or supporting puppet dictators for the last century. Somoza (Nicaragua), Pinochet (Chile), Stroessner (Paraguay), Batista (Cuba), Noriega (Panama), Franco (Spain), both of the Duvaliers (Haiti), Marcos (Phillipines), Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi (Iran), Saddam Hussein (Iraq), Trujillo (Dominica), endless Marine incursions in support of the United Fruit Company...
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Originally Posted by CUBUCK
Bingo.
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Originally Posted by Spats
Sometimes it is better to cut off the head of a snake before it grows fangs. We didn't do this with Hitler in the late 1930s. We paid a very heavy price for our inaction. We forget this lesson at our own peril.
It wasnt the first time someone tried to kill that clown. I'm sure you can link GW to the 97 attempt as well. Your article is pure speculation. "someone visited the whitehouse before" hardly the trail that Nixon and Kissenger left behind in Chile for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spats
All this proves is that you guys will embrace anyone who hates Bush, at any cost. At least some of the ranking Democrats are more selective in who they endorse to sling the mud.