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07-11-2006, 03:15 PM
Trackhead

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Originally Posted by iskibc

Thinking I'll only bring them out on long days or big vert.

I have a better solution, I will just carry two liters of water for Gramps or Altapowderdaze. Those dumb bastards never carry enough water, then they wonder why they are cramping, bonking, and otherwise feeling like shit after 6 hours on the go.

That's an extra four pounds, that will keep me in shape. I might even carry food for Gramps, cause he never eats during his tours either.

Babysitting will keep you in shape.;)

Sorry guys, had to say it. You'll be carrying my water soon, as I creep into my geriatric body.
07-11-2006, 03:16 PM
shera

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Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

You guys need to quit skiing and just hike. Much less gear, and you don't have to worry about your styrofoam bindings releasing on the way down.

Or......you could spend your money on a sled instead.:cool:

Skiing is so over-rated. I'm gonna get my sled and not even bring my skis along.
07-11-2006, 03:16 PM
lemon boy

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Originally Posted by iskibc

Very true. I toured for many years carrying skis on my back, wearing downill boots and snowshoes. I was in the best shape ever. Pretty much did the same mileage and vertical as I do nowadays. It took me a long time to make the switch over to AT gear because I didn't want to lose that fitness level. I liked the workout and I was used to it. Then I made the move to AT gear and got a bit lazy and fat. Now I'm partly on Dynafits and have seen my fitness level drop a bit again. Thinking I'll only bring them out on long days or big vert.

[Sandbagger alert, sandbagger alert]Goddamn dude, have you no shame? [/sba]

:rolleyes: :fm: :biggrin: :biggrin: :D
07-11-2006, 03:18 PM
Pow4Brains

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Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

Or......you could spend your money on a sled instead.:cool:

I'm working on this:)
07-11-2006, 03:18 PM
Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo

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Originally Posted by iskibc

Very true. I toured for many years carrying skis on my back, wearing downill boots and snowshoes. I was in the best shape ever. Pretty much did the same mileage and vertical as I do nowadays. It took me a long time to make the switch over to AT gear because I didn't want to lose that fitness level. I liked the workout and I was used to it. Then I made the move to AT gear and got a bit lazy and fat. Now I'm partly on Dynafits and have seen my fitness level drop a bit again. Thinking I'll only bring them out on long days or big vert.

Just when you think you starting to get into okay shape, somebody comes along and says something crazy like this. :nonono2: :nonono2: Back to the gym for me(but I am still keeping my dynafits):D
07-11-2006, 03:19 PM
shera

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Originally Posted by berko

You can never keep up with the Jones.

Only with the Joneses.:D

I just realized reading this where Jonesing must've originated. :rolleyes: :cool:
07-11-2006, 03:19 PM
mtnbikerskierchick

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Originally Posted by iskibc

Very true. I toured for many years carrying skis on my back, wearing downill boots and snowshoes. I was in the best shape ever. Pretty much did the same mileage and vertical as I do nowadays. It took me a long time to make the switch over to AT gear because I didn't want to lose that fitness level. I liked the workout and I was used to it. Then I made the move to AT gear and got a bit lazy and fat. Now I'm partly on Dynafits and have seen my fitness level drop a bit again. Thinking I'll only bring them out on long days or big vert.

Ahem, I would HARDLY call yourself LAZY OR FAT! You goof! :D
07-11-2006, 03:24 PM
iskibc

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

[Sandbagger alert, sandbagger alert]Goddamn dude, have you no shame? [/sba]

:rolleyes: :fm: :biggrin: :biggrin: :D

What? You better watch it! I'll throw one of those sandbags right at your head! ;) I've gained 10 lbs. over the past year and haven't been able to get over this endurance plateau I've been sitting on for the past 10 months or so. I blame it all on Dynafits.......and a little bit of beer. :)
07-11-2006, 03:25 PM
Blurred

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Originally Posted by SheRa

Skiing is so over-rated. I'm gonna get my sled and not even bring my skis along.

that's because I'll be doing the skiing, and you'll be towing.:fm:
07-11-2006, 03:25 PM
lemon boy

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Originally Posted by iskibc

What? You better watch it! I'll throw one of those sandbags right at your head! ;) I've gained 10 lbs. over the past year and haven't been able to get over this endurance plateau I've been sitting on for the past 10 months or so. I blame it all on Dynafits.......and a little bit of beer. :)

shameless! damn dude.
07-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Rontele

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Originally Posted by iskibc

What? You better watch it! I'll throw one of those sandbags right at your head! ;) I've gained 10 lbs. over the past year and haven't been able to get over this endurance plateau I've been sitting on for the past 10 months or so. I blame it all on Dynafits.......and a little bit of beer. :)

Next season you can lash all 240 lbs of me and my gear to your back and slog me up the hill. That should get you into really good shape...
07-11-2006, 03:29 PM
shera

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Originally Posted by iskibc

What? You better watch it! I'll throw one of those sandbags right at your head! ;) I've gained 10 lbs. over the past year and haven't been able to get over this endurance plateau I've been sitting on for the past 10 months or so. I blame it all on Dynafits.

I'm ten pounds thinner and faster than ever. I am soooooo going to catch you! You just need to get good and old. The best ski mountaineers are my age anyways. :D

You could carry my water. I don't mind being babysat. Berko fed me goo and lent me his extra crampons and brought beer. Obviously the caring sort.
07-11-2006, 03:30 PM
Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo

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Originally Posted by iskibc

haven't been able to get over this endurance plateau

What is that? You can't crack 5 minutes on your mile times. :rolleyes: ;) ;)
07-11-2006, 03:31 PM
FrankZappa

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Originally Posted by iskibc

I've gained 10 lbs. over the past year and haven't been able to get over this endurance plateau I've been sitting on for the past 10 months or so. I blame it all on Dynafits.......and a little bit of beer.

Watch out, man, or you'll be worse of than me when you get to be my age;)

I blame mine on 3-pins & leather boots (& whiskey)
07-11-2006, 03:31 PM
shera

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Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

that's because I'll be doing the skiing, and you'll be towing.:fm:

And you'll be fixing when I'm wrecking. :fm:

I want to modify that sled to keep everybody on running boards. No towing.
07-11-2006, 03:32 PM
iskibc

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Originally Posted by SheRa

I'm ten pounds thinner and faster than ever. I am soooooo going to catch you! You just need to get good and old. The best ski mountaineers are my age anyways. :D

You could carry my water. I don't mind being babysat. Berko fed me goo and lent me his extra crampons and brought beer. Obviously the caring sort.

I'll carry your water if you tow me around on your sled next winter :biggrin:

Dang, Berko hooked it up. I need to get out with him more often. Except, he doesn't need to feed me his goo:biggrin: .
07-11-2006, 03:33 PM
lemon boy

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Originally Posted by iskibc

Except, he doesn't need to feed me his goo:biggrin: .

Lotta protein there. Might be just what you need.

It ain't a big step from wearing dynafits to suckin dicks.
07-11-2006, 03:33 PM
Rontele

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Originally Posted by SheRa

The best ski mountaineers are my age anyways. :D

I didn't know the best ski mountaineers were 20 and hot! ;) :fm:
07-11-2006, 03:33 PM
upallnight

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Originally Posted by Trackhead

What's the point in buying Dynafits with breaks? You lose your weight savings, and the brakes make the heel rotation next to impossible.

Seeing people on Dynafits with breaks makes me feel almost as sorry for them as someone on Freerides. It just doesn't make any sense.

I've been using Dynafits with brakes for 3-4 years now, and I've been on just about every iteration of the Fritschi over the last 9-10 years.

Dynafit brakes work just fine. Yes, they can make rotating the heel a touch harder, but saying it is "next to impossible" is misleading. Perhaps if you have not used the brakes much, yours were not "broken in". After a few times, it does get easier.

Also, traveling through avy terrain is safer with the brakes than leashes.

When I'm standing above a rappel or putting my skis on in any terrain >45 degrees, I've generally chopped out a (small) platform. I find that's pretty much mandatory in order to step into any binding. The leashes could help the ski from totally taking off...but at the some point you have to remove the leash in order to really move the ski around.

The brakes do a great job of holding the ski in place on that platform that you just chopped.

My Dynafits have only ever released maybe once that I can recall. That said, for my skiing, if they *did* release, I'd want the skis away from -- not attached to -- me. But that is just my preference.

Fritschis have issues (they are heavy, for instance), but they have many amazing points. They are also quite reliable.

Dynafits, too, have many fantastic traits (love mine), but they're not as solid for any folks who need a cross-over binding. I push mine hard and occasionally even ride lifts with them, but they wouldn't handle *that* much of it...and, well, their release characteristics don't make it that safe for your joints when set near the top of their scale. (DIN 10 is not that high for folks around here.)

Fritschi's bindings were revolutionary, and they still continue to make people mobile. Don't knock them for that.

Dyanfits are more evolutionary than revolutionary ...but they are no less mind-blowing than one's first BC tour on Fritschis. They open up lots of new terrain.

That said, it's cool if folks use *any* gear to get out in the BC...whether that's Spats + 916s + Trekkers + Alpine boots or F1s + Dynafit Ti's + Trabs. It's all good.

Remember, Bill Briggs was up there killing it on what (?!?!) gear. I think that was before Dynafits or Fritschis were around. I'm sure he'd be psyched on either binding. Then again...we could call him and ask. He's in the phone book!

Peace.
07-11-2006, 03:34 PM
mtnbikerskierchick

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Originally Posted by Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo

What is that? You can't crack 5 minutes on your mile times. :rolleyes: ;) ;)

Nah, he can't go for more than 17 hours in a day. :rolleyes2 :D
07-11-2006, 03:35 PM
Rontele

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

It ain't a big step from wearing dynafits to suckin dicks.

how would you know?
07-11-2006, 03:36 PM
lemon boy

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Originally Posted by Rontele

how would you know?

I wouldn't... although I heard you would. Traitor. :rolleyes: :D
07-11-2006, 03:36 PM
iskibc

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Originally Posted by Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo

What is that? You can't crack 5 minutes on your mile times. :rolleyes: ;) ;)

My running has been lacking. Sub 5 minute miles are tough. I haven't cracked that barrier since college. Just signed up for the Idaho Springs-Georgetown half marathon though. Don't really know what the hell I was thinking, but figured it would be a fun test. Hopefully that will be enough to motivate me and get going again.
07-11-2006, 03:37 PM
Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo

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Originally Posted by mtnbikerskierchick

Nah, he can't go for more than 17 hours in a day. :rolleyes2 :D

Well now that is something to be ashamed of. ;) :D

Edit: A half marathon is about twice as far as I would ever voluntarily run. But then again I hate running, although my girlfriend is trying to cure of that.
07-11-2006, 03:38 PM
Rontele

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

I wouldn't... although I heard you would. Traitor. :rolleyes: :D

I am just discussing going to the darkside. Unlike Berko who has already sold his soul to the devil.

I wouldn't suck dick too well anyways, I have a bad gag reflex.
07-11-2006, 03:38 PM
Rontele

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Originally Posted by iskibc

My running has been lacking. Sub 5 minute miles are tough. I haven't cracked that barrier since college. Just signed up for the Idaho Springs-Georgetown half marathon though. Don't really know what the hell I was thinking, but figured it would be a fun test. Hopefully that will be enough to motivate me and get going again.

I haven't broken a sub 5 minute half mile in...

oh wait, that is embarassing.
07-11-2006, 03:39 PM
iskibc

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Originally Posted by Rontele

how would you know?

Look at him. He's a tele skier, likes raw meat, and likes to hang out with wildlife. He has pole smoker written all over him.
07-11-2006, 03:40 PM
shera

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

Lotta protein there. Might be just what you need.

It ain't a big step from wearing dynafits to suckin dicks.

Shite that's funny - POTD!!!

edit - it just gets funnier
07-11-2006, 03:41 PM
upallnight

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Originally Posted by Trackhead

The only bad thing about Dynafits is.........they make you a weak ass pussy, cause you learn that light is right.

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Originally Posted by iskibc

very true. I toured for many years carrying skis on my back, wearing downill boots and snowshoes. I was in the best shape ever. Pretty much did the same mileage and vertical as I do nowadays. It took me a long time to make the switch over to AT gear because I didn't want to lose that fitness level. I liked the workout and I was used to it. Then I made the move to AT gear and got a bit lazy and fat. Now I'm partly on Dynafits and have seen my fitness level drop a bit again. Thinking I'll only bring them out on long days or big vert.

Then just go faster. Or further. Or higher. :)

Lighter gear just gives people more options. That said, if you want to get fit and only have x amount of time to get in that workout...but all means, take a 40-pound mountain bike on your road ride, wear alpine boots, hike with cast iron pots hanging off your pack...

If you keep speed and time constant, then it's obvious that for a given workout length, you will do less work with lighter gear. But generally you can do more, faster, longer with the light/right gear -- you can always choose to get further out there and get the cardio.

It all has it's place.
07-11-2006, 03:42 PM
mtnbikerskierchick

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Originally Posted by Rontele

I am just discussing going to the darkside. Unlike Berko who has already sold his soul to the devil.

Duh! We've already discussed this! You're selling your soul to the devil when you become a lawyer... so you might as well start earlier by turning to the darkside of the Dynafit world.... you Darth Vedor type....:mad:
:biggrin: :biggrin:
07-11-2006, 03:43 PM
Rontele

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Originally Posted by iskibc

Look at him. He's a tele skier, likes raw meat, and likes to hang out with wildlife. He has pole smoker written all over him.

I agree, POTD!
07-11-2006, 03:44 PM
shera

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Originally Posted by Rontele

I didn't know the best ski mountaineers were 20 and hot! ;) :fm:

That'd be like two of me. Twice as good, I guess.
07-11-2006, 03:45 PM
Rontele

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Originally Posted by SheRa

That'd be like two of me. Twice as good, I guess.

I hope I look as good as you when I turn 40 MirCat...
07-11-2006, 03:45 PM
lemon boy

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Originally Posted by SheRa

That'd be like two of me. Twice as good, I guess.

come on, you're older than ten.
07-11-2006, 03:45 PM
iskibc

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Originally Posted by SheRa

That'd be like two of me. Twice as good, I guess.

And all this time I thought you were 20. Damn.:frown:
07-11-2006, 03:46 PM
lemon boy

sucks to get pwn3d by a law nerd on that one.
07-11-2006, 03:48 PM
hemas

Dynafits suck....

Mostly because I was stupid enough not to invest 20 € more to get MegaRides instead of the GRides :cussing:
07-11-2006, 03:48 PM
Rontele

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

sucks to get pwn3d by a law nerd on that one.

Just remember, I will give you free nerdy legal advice when you are caught smoking the pole of that buck you just shot.
07-11-2006, 03:51 PM
shera

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

sucks to get pwn3d by a law nerd on that one.

Math is hard!

http://www.girlstartcamp.org/treasure/mak/barbie.jpg
07-11-2006, 04:40 PM
Trackhead

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Remember, Bill Briggs was up there killing it on what (?!?!) gear. I think that was before Dynafits or Fritschis were around. I'm sure he'd be psyched on either binding. Then again...we could call him and ask. He's in the phone book!

He was on K2 Elite fiberglass 210cm skis with Spademan bindings (modified to not release) and a modified boot that accomodated his right hip fusion. He had wools knee high socks, wool knickers, and a wool sweater, with a light down jacket. An axe/hammer combo, one rope, a few pitons, and no camera.

His set up was old, but light.

No need to call him, I have all that info, and I'm editing it this month. You'll see it soon.

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