Look at MD9 too, he is a PR man and I have seen some cool shit from him and those skis.
Aqua, did not know you were a PR guy too. That is two guys that rip shit up on these sticks.
Look at MD9 too, he is a PR man and I have seen some cool shit from him and those skis.
Aqua, did not know you were a PR guy too. That is two guys that rip shit up on these sticks.
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I wouldn't ski with Highway Star if he paid me! I think I've seen him before at about 4pm at the bar, ski boots on, tellin lies!
I'll be he can't find binders for these Nordicas :rollin
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glad to see a good amount of debate on the PRs. my original question as to why everyone trashes the PR has certainly been answered. i see lots of good feedback, so thanks to everyone who posted. it has been an interesting read to say the least. i'm glad some of the PR supporters came out of the closet. and i'm glad the PR haters explained why they hated them. VERY informative.
I will mainly be skiing Highlands and Snowmass. I didn't actually tune for D&E, but I transfered the equipment from the tune shop to various locations.Quote:
Are you only skiing Highlands or will you be skiing Aspen Mtn. too?
Do you tune for D&E?
Certainly did work for ASC, and noticed they don't have a huge choice of different brands. Met a guy from Incline and he gave me his card and said come out and try some stuff. So that's what I'll do.Quote:
also, cold, what shop you work at? if you work for the aspen ski co, then don't just try skis at your shop, try at all the ski co shops, plenty of selection if you don't mind banged up top sheets and crappy bindings. i'd say you wouldn't even need your own skis for a while if thats the case.
i'd say the best all around ski is a quiver.
As it is now, I will try to demo as many different skis as possible. If I can finagle having a huge quiver via demoing all season, I will. If I find a ski that I can't live without, I'll pull the trigger and make a purchase.
Thanks again fellas.
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Originally Posted by StoneCold
If you're mainly skiing Highlands you could probably get away with PR's as your only ski. The low skier density means that the front doesn't get hard as fast as Aspen Mountain and when it does, you can just hike the bowl and its always soft somewhere back there. The lite weight will be nice for the hike.
If you were working the shop in town, you will eventually end up skiing Aspen frequently. It's just so easy to jump on the Gondi and you get more vert in an hour than you would hiking the bowl all day. But Aspen can get hard and the PR's aren't so good for that. AX4, 8800 or IM88 would be much better choices for railing on Aspen Mountain and would get the job done at Highlands as well.
If you can get away with demoing all year, go for it!
I use PRs as my AT rig, and love 'em. They are light weight for skinning/touring, and w/me being only 5'8 and 160lbs, they ski great in the back country w/fritchis and deanlis driving them. I wouldn't ski them as my alpine rig, but for BC, they are a super sweet set-up (for me).
I'm a fat bastard 230 5'11" and love PRs. Prolly too much of a puzzy for anything tougher than the noodles.
But, like others have said, if you enjoy them go out and get them. They make me a better skier and I enjoy myself when on them (except trying to keep up with Endless on poorly groomed icy runs on one of his speed gun days) in almost all conditions.
If you like the PR feel but want something a bit stiffer, try the Nordica Beast 92TT/12TT (same ski). It's cheap on ebay. It has almost exactly the same dimensions and a similar feel, but they're somewhat stiffer and with a wood core, so they'll last longer.
They are vulnerable to edge compressions, though, so be careful in rock season.
AN UPDATE: People recommended I try as many different skis as possible.
1. First few days of the year skied Salomon Scream 10 Xtra Hots and enjoyed them. They held up well to the crud, but I felt like I wanted something fatter. Used 3 days.
2. Then used a pair of '06 Salomon 1080 Guns and enjoyed them, as I thought I would, because I liked the Blue Noodle, which is why this post first got started. Easy to turn, blah blah blah. Used 6 days.
3. '06 K2 Apache Outlaw. This ski was the tits. I had skied an older apache last year (chief?) and was expecting the Outlaw to be just as heavy. But it wasn't. It ripped. It turned fast. Solid at my top speed, yet turned fast on the steeps. Used 3 days.
4. '02? Atomic Beta ride 10EX with old Diamir bindings. "test drove" this set up as I was going to buy it from someone. Actually really enjoyed the skis. Floated through the powder. Easy to turn. Didn't really have any complaints.
I will try to demo some more things, but find myself going back to the K2s whenever possible. Awesome ski.
Have not had a chance to try any Volkls yet. Although I've heard good things about the Unlimited.
i only have three days on my atomic 185 EX's. one day was on hard pack and the other two was at jay in 18-20 inda glades. im about 180 and 6'. the skis skied really well in both conditions. i had no problems in tight trees or hard snow. they turn incredibly easy...of course i am old schooler skiing the new turn...shit, everything easier from that perspective!
also, being an old salomon binder fan...the new (to me) atomic binders hold incredibly well. no pre-release out of the heel so far.