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Wow, cause the last time I was in Cabo ('10?) I thought they were aggressive. Finally a guy in our group was like, "your drugs are so shitty, stop asking us".Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
We told him that was not wise, and he should just politely decline.
Because fentanyl gives a euphoric high even at small dosages and when you sprinkle a little into really cheap/stepped on coke/crack/meth/molly/etc you get something that is really cheap and gets you really high still. Its a quick/cheap way to transform crappy/mediocre product into killer product (pun intended). Especially if the user has a high tolerance for the products main ingredient, but a low tolerance for opiates- they will be happy to have gotten so high off such little product, great potency!Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
Think of fentanyl kind of like salt or sugar. Its an ingredient that when used in small amounts will enhance the flavor/effect... but only if portioned appropriately. The problems come in when things get over-seasoned.
And mixing uppers and downers is truly the best. They cancel each others negatives out, while allowing the benefits of each other to shine through. Thats also why its so dangerous/scary. These days i only push it as far as coffee and weed though.
It's part of their scheme to undermine the 2024 elections is what I heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealurface831
Didn’t everybody?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skistack
Not sure I agree with the laced reasoning. Aren't the two highs completely different? Like polar opposite's?
I was under the impression f gets into coke as a result of unintended cross contamination.
^X2, can’t say I’m knowledgeable but that’s what I always figured
I believe the correct response is “have you heard the good word of Jesus Christ? Can I tell you about him so you may be happy and saved from eternal damnation by the love of Jesus!”Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
"And you can keep right on dealing and still go to heaven if you take him into your heart."Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
No, it’s absolutely intentional. Some of these dipshits just get too aggressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaleia
They go well together but if you’re used to blastin gackers of regular coke it’ll get ya.
No. both are expensive, people who are stepping on product arent into wasting product. they dont just leave shit around whoopsie doopsie as a matter of practice. And you would have to accidentally mix in a hefty amount to make a difference. Fentanyl is powerful, but it has reached unfounded urban legend proportions: https://www.npr.org/2023/05/16/11757...misinformationQuote:
Originally Posted by Thaleia
As for the highs. fentanyl, in the right dosage, can provide a nice euphoric effect while also knocking off the edge on the jittery/fidgety effects of uppers (think coke/meth/molly). So, you can take a diluted/shitty bag of blow, add a smidge of fentanyl to enhance the euphoria, knock off most of the jitters, and voila you have super dilluted product that people love.
Mixing uppers and downers is popular for a reason- many of them negate each others negative effects. Blow keeps your drunkass from being groggy and slow, and booze helps to keep the jitters and anxiety down for mr nose candy. There is goodreason why speedballs are "popular", or why redbull vodkas are popular, etc.
That NPR article is strictly about the low risk to law enforcement, which is out of context. Ingesting fentanyl in small amounts is deadly, especially to someone that doesn’t have a tolerance to opiates. As others have stated, fentanyl is cut with cocaine to make it more addictive and because it is cheap.
The fact that people dealing fenty use respirators and gloves says a lot.
PS. RIP belushi. Speedballs kill.
The point was that no, people aren't ODing on trace amounts of fentanyl that get into their blow from cross contamination. Fentanyl is intentionally added, and sometimes too much is added.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woolly the Mammoth
I have friend that intervened and confiscated one of her neighbor’s drugs off her and put them in her own pocket. She needed up needing narcan just from having those pills in her pant pocketQuote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
That's not why she needed narcan :rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
Cops OD'ing on fentanyl just by touching it is bullshit and is all going to be the next big LEO disability scam.
Not buying that at all. And if the drug was in pill form (not powder) it's even less believable.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
I asked anesthetist bro about fentynal and he said they use exact amounts of it under controled situation in the OR but the orders of magnitude in strength are what is kills people
You can believe it or not, but the emts gave her narcan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaleia
Probably more so from skin contact on her hand than being in her pocket? A sweaty palm can rapidly increase absorption.
OD'ing from skin contact with fentanyl has been debunked numerous times.
OD'ing from opioid use which was later blamed on skin contact with fentanyl has happened numerous times.
Just happened to talk to my friend who’s an anesthesiologist and deals with this stuff every day and he said, yeah, skin absorption could maybe get someone a little high but OD would be tough unless they were swimming in it. I don’t know but I’ll take his word for it.
Having said that, people lie to cops and paramedics all the time if they’re holding a substance so I could see them erroring on the safe side and administering Narcan.
I could maybe understand an OD from breathing in a cloud if a bag of "heroin" that was too much fentanyl was dispersed rapidly in a confined area, but that's going to be a pretty rare situation and very close to intentional.
Fentanyl patches (like nicotine patches in method of drug absorption) are not infrequently used by people in chronic pain (terminal cancer etc). Also Fentanyl is used in your local ER via IV for pain relief in patients under going quick procedures (like getting a broken bone moved back into place)Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Not intending to steer the conversation to overuse of opioids. Just saying that Fentanyl is not reserved for special use in small doses in the OR by anesthesiologists. There are people in your community prescribed fentanyl for legitimate reasons (and of course people prescribed it for less legitimate reasons or people using fentanyl patches they got illicitly)
I've had fentanyl a couple times in medical situations and it's pretty nice.
My wife won’t even smoke weed but jokes about going through pregnancy again just to get it for the delivery.Quote:
Originally Posted by ötzi
I’ve had it once that I know of during a biopsy- very dreamy/floating in a cloud feeling.
I wonder what sex on fent is like?
All narcotics except Morphine and dilauded make me nauseous as can be. The same for many anesthesia meds, including the ones that are supposed to rarely cause nausea. Throughout a lifetime of procedures and surgeries, I would awake from anesthesia sick and violently vomit for hours and feel nauseous for a full day.
A few years ago, I had an anesthesiologist who actually listened and used a cocktail that used Fentanyl. I woke up like I took a refreshing nap. It was incredible. I've had the same cocktail 3 times and it has been a real game changer for me post surgery.
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The same as sex on any other opioid, more or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
More, or less?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I remember having sex on Vicodin and it wasn’t any extra fun. Maybe if you usually cum too quick you’d like it?
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It does put me to sleep. I've never done opioids, I think I can pass on the fent. Was just curious. K was fun though.
Yeah that hydrocodone shit just dehydrates the hell out of you. Not a fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
What puts you to sleep, vicodin? Vicodin *is* an opioid.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
I think he meant while having sex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
What? It didn’t make your hand all warm and fuzzy?Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47