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I just got off the phone with Ford.
They called to say they're going to buy back my Wife's '14 Focus as part of the settlement over dual clutch auto-trans fault.
Purely by coincidence It's currently at the dealership for what will likely be it's third clutch pack replacement in less than 44k miles.
So I guess she's in the market for another commuter car.
Ice, get the cool sports sedan you like but don't option in the sport suspension bits, and 19" tires. No M-sport for me for example.
Maybe an electric RAV4 or CRV? The ICE versions are everywhere. Driven by morons, I may add.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
Ring Bobby. Nashville is pretty this time of year with all the trees in flower.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
That could be part of the plan. Anyone know how long it takes to federalize a car for US sale? (crash testing, emissions, whatever)Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
I could only guess at specifics but the time partly depends on how different overseas safety and emissions criteria are relative to the same US criteria. If they're similar, maybe not that long.
Well, I can tell you real estate here has now eclipsed '08.Quote:
Originally Posted by permnation
That's crazy. Hopefully lesson learned though...go with the MT. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by AustinFromSA
On another note, fuck Ford anyway, they haven't built a decent car since the '66 Mustang.
There are plenty of fun, small cars out there, just not from US manufactures.
As long as Americans continue to act like Americans this behavior from Ford and Chevy will continue. I've driven Euro cars most of my life with the occasional Japanese car.
For her commuter car in Seattle traffic and Seattle's hills... yeah right.Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinFromSA
I was thinking about a Hyundai?Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
...Shit, actually that could possibly happen.
I know, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by hutash
https://hips.hearstapps.com/amv-prod...-original.jpg?
Why are they morons? I'm guessing the vast majority of people that buy a car are looking for a vehicle that gets them from point A to point B safely, comfortably, reasonably economically and with a decent amount of storage and passenger space. That's exactly why these type of vehicles are popular and I'm not sure how any of that makes buyers of these cars "morons."Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
Ford was offered some $$$ in the bail out and they declined it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Chrysler was purchased by Daimler Benz in 1998
Ford rules, GM blows tRumps cock.
Where to even start...Quote:
Originally Posted by k2skier112
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmu.../#4d2ae41efc10
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...ment-carmakers
Anyone tried to fit a rear facing child seat into a sedan and have a use able front seat?
What about their fleet program? They seem to have the largest fleet business out there. It must be a significant portion of their Tauras/Fusion business.
The company I work for probably owns 1500 F150s, 1000 Fusions, 200 Explorers, and a few larger Ford trucks and vans. All purchased through their fleet program direct from the factory.
If Ford drops the Fusions and forces us to buy Escapes, I'm sure that 5-10mpg hit is significant enough on 1000 vehicles for us to start to think about signing a contract with GM....
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No you're the first one ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by char_
Well, of course you're right AD. But this is TGR. I don't drive a car simply to get from A to B, and these people are not paying attention to their fucking driving, goddammit. Get that POS out of the fucking left lane.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
Makes my Outback unusable. Can't imagine a focus or mazda3 for more than 20 mins.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
I think I am going to sell all my remaining Ford stock and buy a couple Yeti coolers.
But seriously sedans suck and they created the stupid senseless demand for SUV's. Middling aging sedans like Ford makes are useless. They have to discount or sell them to fleets to move them and three years down the road they fill all the buy here pay here used car lots that prey on poor people and make certain nobody with any self respect will purchase a new one for face value. The death spiral is complete and now they can rebalance.
Crossovers made wagons cool again by not being wagons because most Americans think wagons are for the Brady Bunch. Either way they are at least relatively efficient and useful to the people who buy them because they aren't wagons even though they are.
I owned a Ford Taurus SHO 5mt Sedan once after owning a decent Ford Escort hatch. The SHO was an abdomidable piece of garbage and couldn't even haul the gear for a single twenty something but at least it was interesting.
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Impressive number of experts on here that know more about auto manufacturing, marketing, and sales than Ford Motor Company.
:D
Yes, I do that all the time. It isn't hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by char_
The larger fleet contracts are one-offs, but you little guys aren't nothing in aggregate.
Ford sells a lot of Exploders and F150s as fleet vehicles, and they have lost a lot of the small-car stuff to foreigners and mid-sized stuff to FCA garbage that they are willing to sell cheap because they can't move volume through dealer channels. Maybe they have thought it through and are willing to sacrifice that part of the business.
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Originally Posted by nickwm21
Hate all you want if it makes you feel good and/or superior, but for our uses a small SUV with AWD, 8" of ground clearance and 28MPG combined is a very practical vehicle until the day a Japanese manufacturer offers hybrid 45mpg AWD with ample ground clearance.
I'm not too shocked by Ford's move. Small cars = small margin in the N.A. market, and the domestic brands haven't figured out how to make small cars as good as those made by the Asian brands (many of which are assembled in the U.S. by U.S. labor).
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Originally Posted by skaredshtles
What is it about dentists that they know exactly how everyone else's businesses could be run better...
You make a good point. For us skier types who live in the boonies, this is a golden age of efficient AWD vehicles with a little clearance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeezerSteve
The Outlander PHEV is now available in the US market. I think it may be my next car. It looks fucking great for our purposes.
PM me if you are serious about replacing that Ford commuter car.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
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Originally Posted by nickwm21
huh? maybe I'm missing something but there shouldn't be a 5-10 mpg difference between the two. escapes are hudge in our industry for the office crews, I regularly see over 30mpg in my 2015.
I highly doubt that would be grounds for a change. especially considering the kind of vehicle service you get with their fleet contracts. I don't know if Chevy or anyone else has a program that is comparable, especially for large companies.
Tthey think everyone else's business should revolve around their purchasing desires, not market demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Yeah, my aunt with teh CRV posts on TRG.
Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
tl;dr...
But what the fuck did Harrison Ford ever do to you?
Didn't you know? AustinFromSA is Greedo's brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
Slightly off topic but not, I can't understand how or why GM continues to have GMC and Chevy producing the exact same vehicles. I would think financially it would make more sense to have GMC produce all crossover/SUV/Truck models and have Chevy focus on making a reliable relivent car line.
Plugboots, not all RAV4 owners are morons thank you! [emoji867]
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You must be new here.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
I do like the ford focus estate in euroland. https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-ne...-release-date/
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0-60 in 10s with diesel or gas. . Gas 58 mpg and diesel 78 mpg. Why can Americans not drive sensible cars?
Not fast but with a 6 speed manual you feel faster.Top model is 27,600 pounds list price.
AustinFromSA?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
Heh.
I'd have shot first too.
Kinda makes you wonder why they just didn't become automotive executives, doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
I mean - that's gotta be better (and better paying) than sticking your hands in nasty oral orifices, dunnit?
Greedo shot first.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
Edit: dammit... sniped. :mad:
Or the Mondeo (Fusion) wagonQuote:
Originally Posted by cat in january
I think ford is playing the long game and is going to snatch up tesla once elon cant raise new equity.