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Hmmm. Another solution would be to not have a kid unless you could support it. Choices have consequences. Bad choice. Shitty outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer
Personal responsibility is looked upon as racist by too many fools these days.
"I'm only pro choice until the child is born. After that it must exist in a hellworld of preventable disease and poverty / starvation."Quote:
Originally Posted by goldengatestinx
way to swing for the fencesQuote:
Originally Posted by goldengatestinx
No doubt you shop at Hobby Lobby and think abstention actually works.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldengatestinx
Get your head out of your ass and look how the real world works Pollyanna.
I didnt buy a car I couldn't afford. I bought a house we could afford. I didn't fuck without protection and don't have a kid I can't afford.Quote:
Originally Posted by hutash
Heterosexual white guy who married a female, works, pays off bills and lives within our means. And it not difficult at all.
So yup. Seems I'm real world and my head is on my neck and not in my ass. Any other fucktard questions?
If you believe in equal opportunity, you have to support free meals for poor kids.
Simple as that
Ugh, peanut allergies happened to pb&j. Sad but true...Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Does anybody actually know how the schools collect for the poor kids that get free lunches?
Just seems like the poor kids should be set up on the gov teat, and fly through the lunch line?
As the article mentioned, it was the parent groups above the free lunch income levels, that they had the most trouble collecting from.
So essentially you think that poor people should not be allowed to reproduceQuote:
Originally Posted by goldengatestinx
No one should be allowed to have children unless they can afford to give them millions to start being real estate developers.
Without getting the issue of whether or not poor people should be allowed to have children (are there no workhouses?)--sometimes people have kids and then get poor. Somethimes meaning a lot.
GGS--you can expect to be visited at night soon by a ghost in chains.
What, you want a gold fucking star? Just because you had advantages others don't doesn't make you special. Your head is still up your ass, it just looks like you have a butt on your shoulders.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldengatestinx
nope, most likely that is him eating out his affordable and clean wife's pussy.....Quote:
Originally Posted by hutash
Ah yes, here we have the elusive conservative in the wild, so convinced that society will work if everyone just acted like them that they are willing to punish 4 year olds for the choices of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldengatestinx
This extreme notion that we as a society have no moral obligation to feed, clothe, educate or shelter our citizens, especially children is indicative of an astonishing lack of compassion and understanding in our society. Not to mention the fact that it is extremely shortsighted.
That's commie talk right there mate.
its becoming more and more apparent these days that conservatives don't possess many christian values. They only bang the bible when its convenient, but draw the line when it comes to true compassion.
"Life is not difficult at all," says heterosexual white man.
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Originally Posted by mecc69
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Originally Posted by BRUTAH
this, this, and thisQuote:
Originally Posted by kai_ski
polyass peoples
Perhaps we should be cautious about labeling this a political issue for fear it will be too easily dismissed by those who shun such discussions. Rather it is a discussion of humanity, kindness and enlightenment for the betterment of society which should transcend all political affiliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyb
Ignorance and Want
"'Forgive me if I am not justified in what I ask,' said
Scrooge, looking intently at the Spirit's robe,' but I see
something strange, and not belonging to yourself, protruding
from your skirts. Is it a foot or a claw.'
'It might be a claw, for the flesh there is upon it,' was
the Spirit's sorrowful reply. 'Look here.'
From the foldings of its robe, it brought two children;
wretched, abject, frightful, hideous, miserable. They knelt
down at its feet, and clung upon the outside of its garment.
'Oh, Man. look here. Look, look, down here.' exclaimed the Ghost.
They were a boy and a girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling,
wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where
graceful youth should have filled their features out, and
touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled
hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and
pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat
enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No
change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any
grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has
monsters half so horrible and dread.
Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him
in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but
the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie
of such enormous magnitude.
'Spirit. are they yours.' Scrooge could say no more.
'They are Man's,' said the Spirit, looking down upon
them. 'And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers.
This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both,
and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy,
for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the
writing be erased. Deny it.' cried the Spirit, stretching out
its hand towards the city. 'Slander those who tell it ye.
Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse.
And abide the end.'
'Have they no refuge or resource.' cried Scrooge.
'Are there no prisons.' said the Spirit, turning on him
for the last time with his own words. 'Are there no workhouses.'"
- A Christmas Carol, Stave 3: The Second of the Three Spirits
Kids get participation ribbons, adults get welfare checks. But the kids didn't make the bad decisions. Feed the kids, educate the kids, and maybe someday we'll be handing out fewer welfare checks.
If a child appears with this for lunch, is shaming warranted? Discuss.
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Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
only shame would be that they other children don't get the same. Mmmmmmmmm tasty!
right. because anybody on welfare made bad decisions. usa: land of corporate freeloader, home of the brainiac citizen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
Does the lower right side of that look a bit like a vagina?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
I've never seen a gray vagina.
How about a blue waffle?
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Originally Posted by mcski
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I'm not really sure what you're getting at but thanks for reading into more than was there. Not all people on welfare made bad decisions nor did I say that. Some able bodied people take welfare because it's easier than trying. Some of those people have kids because fucking feels good and don't try to support those kids by trying. Maybe if we give a generation a better foundation, we won't have as high of a number of a certain population making more kids they won't take care of. When I said "fewer welfare checks" I thought you might understand that I didn't mean no welfare checks (fewer does not equal none). Yes, there will and always should be some form of welfare in our society because I'd like to think we're a society that takes care of people in need. Need and second chances are different than laziness.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyeaster
Feel free to take my statement on whatever tangent you'd like or read into it....corporate freeloaders, ag subsidies, wealth distribution, whatever. There are problems there too but I thought this thread was about children getting the shit end of the stick. It's your internet connection so make the thread whatever you'd like it to be. I'll spell my statement out very simply for you-I don't think kids should lack food or education because their parent/parents suck. I think the same for kids whose parents are trying but can't get out of a bad situation.
FifyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mazderati
nice tryQuote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
1,000's can abuse the system or millions can go hungry in the richest nation on Earth.
And it's probably not thousands. Maybe hundreds. Most poor people work.
Classic right wing dodge..."I didn't mean everybody, just the majority who abuse the system."Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
Sure there are abuses, but they are the minority. Typical Faux news punk who buys lobster type. Try being poor for awhile, it is fucking hard. There is a reason it is a generational problem and it's not because people inherent lazy genes.
nice responseQuote:
Originally Posted by wyeaster
I don't have kids and vote yes for every school bond. I volunteer for community literacy programs where I live. I spend time at our community food bank packing back packs for the backpack program that provides our underserved population with meals to take home for the week outside of what they're getting for lunch at school. I was raised in a household of two teachers in a state on the very bottom of the list of teacher compensation.Quote:
Originally Posted by hutash
And yet, clearly I'm a poor writer. My original point is educate kids. If they're malnourished, feed them so they can learn. It doesn't matter what their background is. Seems like a pretty right wing statement doesn't it?
Hutash-fuck off. That's coming from a guy who grew up in the west where we're supposed to be polite to a fault (not a New Yorker).
Or maybe I just got trolled.
To the folks beating on Conundrum, read it again...Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
I thought it was clear he's supporting kids
what am I missing?
"But the kids didn't make the bad decisions." Implying all welfare recipients made/make bad decisions. He's getting roasted for that me thinks. FEED THE KIDS!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by acinpdx
I am not disagreeing with the feed and educate kids part, I commend you are your charitable efforts. It's the tone about how poor people just need to make good choices part that I have a problem with. It not only sucks to be poor, it is really hard. They are often stuck in a whirlpool of poverty with no easy escape. Even with the help of welfare, food stamps, et al, it is still difficult to get out when seemingly everything works against you. It is very hard to make good choices, like not using pay day loans, when it is the only way you can pay the rent, or not shop for and eat junk food when there are no decent stores in your area, to name just a few problems, not to mention mental and physical health issues.
Oh, and thank you for telling me to fuck off in such a polite and considerate manner.
You are correct and I can see the perception. I should have said "any" decisions. Kids don't make any decisions. They're an egg and a sperm and then they're a kid. They had no decision in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockcreek
My left wing/right wing in this we need to fund the shit out of planned parenthood while I wish people would have kids only when they have a plan to care for the child. And yes, sometimes society has to get your back when the plan doesn't work. And I do think having kids with no plan to feed them is irritating as anything.
Ah, I see, thxQuote:
Originally Posted by rockcreek
(^^^^looks like he is seeing that now too)
How long until the common sense of a universal wage makes it to the mainstream?