Oh dang. TGR hate.

It's too bad the guy can't write worth a smelly shit. The concept holds a lot of promise. Just in this very thread we see the kinds of bullshit trustafari smug superiority that hangs out there, like a slow-walking fat kid waiting to be pelted with snowballs on that day when the snow packs just right -- not icy and bone-breaking, not fluffy and fall-apart, but just right.

You can always tell who's a pampered trustafarian, a nouveau riche money-for-nothing dickweed who retired at 30, or a clueless aspirant to the prior two classes -- they're cunting up this thread with their apologies for TGR's bullshit downward trajectory, saying it's good to ruin a sport for many participants if a handful of them can cash in and live as if they'd been born with the trust fund, the silver spoon, or the daddy's business to inherit at age 21.

dunfee is a shitty writing turd, and deserves skewering, but sadly our author here wasn't up to the task, and the weak self-parody attempt via references to contrails, they don't bring the funny and don't hurl the scathe in real critical comedic fashion.

sorta reads like rideit's or kidwoo's high school locker room "humor", though it's funnier than either of those two Heroes of TGR.

I think I agree with Doobie Brother:

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“This delicious Coors Light™ would go great with some California Pistachios™ and a Clif Bar™. I also love Karakoram Bindings, 32 Boots, O’Neill Outerwear, Swatch, ScottUSA, Samsonite, ABS, TGR, Black Diamond, Blue Bird Wax, Backcountry.com, and Jone$ Snowboard$ . Please remember to donate to Protect Our Winters: we need more money to totally save the planet!"

oh and this piece of funny,

"All introductions aside, it truly is newsworthy that TGR recently called out Shaun White for being a sellout because TGR sold out long ago and has played a prominent yet pathetic role in the covert corporate takeover of snow sports and adventure culture ever since.

It’s time for TGR to realize that their shit stinks too…"

Hilarious article.

I really thought the Ryan DUnfree Shaun White article sucked balls.

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TGR fanbois remind me of the deluded dipshits who would apologize for Obama from their deathbed after getting hit by a Holder-Chertoff Drone despite absence of real terrorism. "Obama is black, progressive, and means well."

Yeah right. That's so funny. Like rideit/kidwoo funny. Like Will Ferrell funny. All the stuck-in-8th-grade-immaturity bro-brahs find it funny, dood!

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Originally Posted by creaky fossil

The concept holds a lot of promise. Just in this very thread we see the kinds of bullshit trustafari smug superiority that hangs out there/

You can always tell who's a pampered trustafarian, a nouveau riche money-for-nothing dickweed who retired at 30, or a clueless aspirant to the prior two classes -- they're cunting up this thread with their apologies for TGR's bullshit downward trajectory, saying it's good to ruin a sport for many participants if a handful of them can cash in and live as if they'd been born with the trust fund, the silver spoon, or the daddy's business to inherit at age 21.

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well said, these apologists either are part of the wealthy elite or long to sell out to this class. Or they are just to fucking stupid to see what is going on around them. I have the least patience for the stupid ones; muddling their way to pay their exorbitant rent, standing in ever lengthening lift lines, paying out the nose for the newest coolest outerwear, licking ballsack at their table waiting job, longing for one of those ten non paying TGR internships, all the while the landscape around them getting drilled and sold off for trophy homes.

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let's stick to the first epicly hate filled rant:

http://tukadika.com/2014/02/10/tgrs-...-for-18-years/

It actually has some validity and you gotta give it to the guy, he ain't afraid to speak his mind. Wonder if some TGR intern is gonna break a bottle of Jack over the poor guys head?

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I read it. He's actually pretty funny as long as he's not conspiracy theorizing...

" 9. Touring Rendezvous Mountain is great for your physical fitness. A typical day of skiing at JHMR involves a 400-800m clomp in boots, an hour or two standing in lift lines or squashed into the tram, an hour or two of skiing, a 5-30 minute hike or two (if you're hardcore!), an exceptional number of 12oz arm curls, perhaps a little dancing, and -- if you're lucky -- a rigorous session of pelvic thrusts. A typical day of touring at Rendezvous Mountain involves several hours of uphill skinning, bootpacking, and schralping followed by the requisite 12oz arm curls, perhaps a little dancing, and -- if you're lucky -- a rigorous session of pelvic thrusts. Long, slow, uphill voyages are great. Slow Ride: take it easy!"

wow. i can’t believe how the article just keeps going and going. (and just when you think it’s gonna stop… it goes). Who has time to even read this shit?

looks like Bink Hildreth IV on one side of the ping-pong table, and Shmuel Golan-Berkovitz on the other side

whenever the ball flies off the table, they interrupt play to buy new paddles and balls from Shmuel's cousin, Sandor Hack-Phlegm, who has an artisanal Table Tennis Equipment boutique downtown selling paddles starting at $129.95 each and packs of 4 balls (plain white variety) starting at $48.95, and tweeting about the blow-by-blow while we wait for Shmuel to ride his Segway down to Sandor's boutique, because that's just how pretentious and naive, spoiled, entitled fucktards show the rest of us how it's done

Clicking around that guys blog gave me a headache. All chem trails all the time.

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be a vegan, do something real in other words.

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You know what's even greener than being a vegan? Suicide. Heck, if you go on a killing spree you eliminate a whole bunch of carbon footprints. Pol Pot was an environmentalist at heart, but Hitler, Stalin and Mao set the bar so high... That's the responsible choice. But I prefer pork.

Dude had some valid points. I espiecally like the line "once you've sold your soul, you may as well sell everything else"- I know he didn't come up with that line but it was golden.

The article by RD was a terrible, and dumb article. Also a I can agree with the whole JJ self-apotheosis, the man is close to removing his lower ribs. I mean he's a ok shredder, but nothing compared to legends.

But I don't get the guy's point about the mindless tgr movies- what ski point movies have subplot and character development?

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or long to sell out to this class

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why do you hate america?

All i fucking know is that Jackson was played out 15 yeas ago when Doug Coombs left for Europe n shit. When TGR first released the continium the Mangy Moose was the biggest building in the village and walk on fifty person trams were the norm. Now the place is Vail, it is completely over run by wealthy dropouts from the east coast, tracked out so fast. Is there a correlation? of course there is, some got rich, lived a carbon intensive lifestyle along the way and now are claiming to have found some green god. Why? a way to continue to fund their globetrotting ways while burrying their white man guilt for their sins against the earth. Jackson Hole has the highest number of non profits on the planet ya know, why is this? Because the wealthiest elitist multi generational 1 percenters suffer in a guilt ridden existence for the sins of themselves and their fathers, grandfathers and so on.

you know, I don't think I've watched any TGR film ...
or bought any products ...
I dont wear new gear or pay a high rent ...

but I have a huge carbon footprint ...

oh wait, does that have anything to do with this disscussion ???

I prefer my Carne Asada Al Carbon.

Life/shredding was nicer before the interweb (and the jet trails)....and before JJ: He wasnt around around then. I think Koch and Farmer are pretty cool and are pioneers of something (originality). "Do it my way, thats my resume".

The article makes some great points actually about the hypocrisy and general poor-attitude of calling out an olympic athlete at the start of the games. He should've stopped while he was ahead though and skipped the corporate-political conspiracy rant.

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Life/shredding was nicer before the interweb (and the jet trails)....and before JJ: He wasnt around around then. I think Koch and Farmer are pretty cool and are pioneers of something (originality). "Do it my way, thats my resume".

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Dont forget Marco.

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why do you hate america?

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Don't forget, he also hates Revelstoke!

I'd sure like to get more days in the mountains...

The more I look at this guys blog and fb page I gotta say, I really like this guy. But I have always been one to appreciate those have have the balls to say what is really on their mind. I'm skeptical on the chem trail topic but he believes in it and isn't scared to tell you about it.

He brings up some good points, which lead me to do some research on what POW actually does with its money:

Looks like Chris Stienkamp, POWs Executive Director, gave himself a $38,000 pay raise between 2010 & 2011... now cleaning $75k+ annually out of your pockets.

They also spent $62,745 in 2011 to take a preview of a new film (Deeper) and reach new audiences in three markets: New York, Denver, and San Francisco...
so the basically used donated money to promote and market a TGR movie for Jones Snowboards under the banner of "helping" the environment

Dont believe, look for yourself:
http://www.guidestar.org/organizatio...r-winters.aspx

Is it just the pic or does Ryan Dunfree has a sweet beginner comb over.

If I ever go bald Im shining my head and offering little kids candy from my van window.

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He brings up some good points, which lead me to do some research on what POW actually does with its money:

Looks like Chris Stienkamp, POWs Executive Director, gave himself a $38,000 pay raise between 2010 & 2011... now cleaning $75k+ annually out of your pockets.

They also spent $62,745 in 2011 to take a preview of a new film (Deeper) and reach new audiences in three markets: New York, Denver, and San Francisco...
so the basically used donated money to promote and market a TGR movie for Jones Snowboards under the banner of "helping" the environment

Dont believe, look for yourself:
http://www.guidestar.org/organizatio...r-winters.aspx

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You think $75k is a lot of money to "clean"?

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You think $75k is a lot of money to "clean"?

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When you are not actually doing anything, yes.

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You think $75k is a lot of money to "clean"?

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Revenue
Total Revenue $188,447
Expenses
Total Expenses $159,120

I don't (and won't) donate to them so they aren't cleaning my pocket; it's up to the donors if they think it's worth it.

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Revenue
Total Revenue $188,447
Expenses
Total Expenses $159,120

I don't (and won't) donate to them so they aren't cleaning my pocket; it's up to the donors if they think it's worth it.

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Wow. POW is even more of a juggernaut than I expected. They're definitely going to change the world. They should just buy all the world's fossil fuels and launch them into space, then buy corresponding carbon credits to cancel out the impact of the launch. That would be even better than going vegan.

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Wow. POW is even more of a juggernaut than I expected. They're definitely going to change the world. They should just buy all the world's fossil fuels and launch them into space, then buy corresponding carbon credits to cancel out the impact of the launch. That would be even better than going vegan.

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They spent 3.3% of total revenue on carbon credits in 2011.

Never stop hating.

fuck i was in jackson mid80s and early 90s when it still had some fucking authenticity man.

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fuck i was in jackson mid80s and early 90s when it still had some fucking authenticity man.

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The Vill feels more like Aspen these days. Lee Jays is long gone and in it's place last time I looked was a 30 dollar plate dinner restaurant. The Hostel is still hanging tough though.

I can't say anything bad about TGR or the Jones brothers. I don't know Todd and Steve very well but I have been around them both enough to say that they sure didn't ever seem to be the corporate greedy types in it for the money. This is not an ass kissing fan club comment, this is sincere. They were/are in it for the love and are genuine about their efforts. I have only met Jeremy on a few brief occasions and I only remember thinking that he seemed like one of the nicest and most unpretentious pro riders I have ever met. I can't imagine that he would be doing the POW thing to just cash in and exploit donators, I truly believe that he believes in what he is doing. Yes they are business owners but so what? I don't see a need to hate on people enjoying their success. I like Max's writing just because he isn't afraid to speak his mind and he makes you think, but I'm not saying I agree with everything he is saying.

After reading some of the posts I kinda felt obligated to add that.

Somebody is a muttonheaded cunt.


I stopped reading at geoengineering and chemtrails, AND I LISTEN TO COAST TO COAST!

all i know is i've enjoyed every minute I've spent in max's presence. he's a solid dude. he speaks his mind and has strong opinions. we've only kicked it in a few brief gatherings, but he's a good human being who means well. and in my opinion (the only opinion that matters :the_finge), he's fighting for the right side. if you're against that side then you should fuck off and stop skiing cause if you don't believe in climate change and aren't willing to speak your mind and fight to save winters than you don't deserve to ski.

that POW shit is horrible about as horrible as the wounded warrior project. I know its not all on jeremy jones, but fuck a foundation like that.

I don't know max very well and the chemtrails shit gets old, but he stands by his beliefs and I can't fault a man for that. (and secretly I sometimes believe him....) plus if he was completely full of shit, TGR, POW (plus countless others, outdoor mag) wouldn't ban him from commenting on their fb pages. he's got some valid points mixed in with the conspiracy theories, oh and dude shreds harder than most here

if he shreds so fuckin hard
wheres the stoke?
seems like the scrawny dude at the beach who got sum sand kicked in his face
so instead of ponien up for the atlas
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...psa71c5c9b.jpg

he sat his slowboard ass at the cumputor and got his e-warrior on
must have some hefty typin calluses

I think it is a good thing that Max has broken down the wall when it comes to ski industry group think. The industry is so insular, dissent is non existent, and there is no questioning of the status quo. Only a non stop mind numbing reel of all is rad in our world. When in reality, all is not good in ski towns or on this planet. POW is obviously fluff, they have taken on an abstract and politically correct cause so as to add a facade of meaningfulness to what it is they are doing. This is the era of claiming to do something beyond narcissism and consumption after all, blowing tons of CO2 into the climate every day is bad PR so bad business.

Meanwhile ski towns and ski culture is gone, the eastern side of their own state is being fracked to oblivion, economic inequality and housing crisis are just the way it is in ski town USA, critical wildlife habitat is sold to real estate developers, shady land swaps by ski resorts run rampant. None of these issues are even talked of by TGR, POW, or any of these so called ski ambasadors? Why? it would threaten their sponsorships as all aspects of ski industrial complex are integrated.

And Max, your writing is great but in 9th grade english class I learned to make 1 thesis statement and stick with it. The piece was great but devolved into too many pieces. Write to your audience, you lose all cred when you start down the road of chemtrails, I know you believe in it, write it up in its own piece. Climate change and what not are way over our pay grades and nobody really knows what the fuck is going on, baby steps for baby minds when writing for the general public.

I can't ever hate on anyone for getting paid to do what they are good at. If you can make a living doing something you enjoy and are good at, more power to you. I do say the guise of the POW foundation seems pretty sketchy knowing people pay to support something and it seems the majority goes to pay staff. But who the fuck am I talk... I would never donate to it anyway. I donate to cancer research and that's it.

In america you know you've finally made it when you can milk a good non-profit salary and use contributions to travel to cool places.

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All i fucking know is that Jackson was played out 15 yeas ago when Doug Coombs left for Europe n shit. When TGR first released the continium the Mangy Moose was the biggest building in the village and walk on fifty person trams were the norm. Now the place is Vail, it is completely over run by wealthy dropouts from the east coast, tracked out so fast. Is there a correlation? of course there is, some got rich, lived a carbon intensive lifestyle along the way and now are claiming to have found some green god. Why? a way to continue to fund their globetrotting ways while burrying their white man guilt for their sins against the earth. Jackson Hole has the highest number of non profits on the planet ya know, why is this? Because the wealthiest elitist multi generational 1 percenters suffer in a guilt ridden existence for the sins of themselves and their fathers, grandfathers and so on.

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huh? what?

Mangy largest building...um, no.
Walk on 50 trams...um, no.

Many of the homes being built in Jackson in the late 80's were being built by the .01 percent and were ridiculously ostentatious taj mahals.

Blaming the Jones bros is a joke. Take a look around the world...we're are progressing. :rolleyes2 Or regressing in many cases.

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I can't say anything bad about TGR or the Jones brothers. I don't know Todd and Steve very well but I have been around them both enough to say that they sure didn't ever seem to be the corporate greedy types in it for the money. This is not an ass kissing fan club comment, this is sincere. They were/are in it for the love and are genuine about their efforts. .

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that is true. steve was just stoked to ski and laugh. he turned his fun into his lifes work. i'm psyched for all of them.

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All i fucking know...

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You know nothing John C

Yep, its official. TGR ruined Jackson. It had nothing to do with Sotheby's and the other 500 dirt pimps relentlessly pitching the limited pool of private real estate in Jackson as a safe bet for millionaires with extra cash to invest. Had nothing to do with Wyoming being an income tax haven. It was the TGR conspiracy to drive up Jackson real estate values in order to distract people from all those chemtrails and to supress legal weed and cause cancer. Well, TGR, I hope you are happy with yourself.

Or, just maybe, Jackson became exactly the thing its "real" residents wanted as they watched their modest homes turn into fat retirement funds. Maybe a big part of Jackson's "real" residents were content to make good money building and servicing pretentious log McMansions for rich yankees? Face it guys, Jackson ruined Jackson. If Jackson folks really liked cheap houses and rednecks, I guess they'd live in Idaho. Because you can drive over the Pass to Idaho in about the time it takes to write about Jackson crawling with rich people.

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Yep, its official. TGR ruined Jackson. It had nothing to do with Sotheby's and the other 500 dirt pimps relentlessly pitching the limited pool of private real estate in Jackson as a safe bet for millionaires with extra cash to invest. Had nothing to do with Wyoming being an income tax haven. It was the TGR conspiracy to drive up Jackson real estate values in order to distract people from all those chemtrails and to supress legal weed and cause cancer. Well, TGR, I hope you are happy with yourself.

Or, just maybe, Jackson became exactly the thing its "real" residents wanted as they watched their modest homes turn into fat retirement funds. Maybe a big part of Jackson's "real" residents were content to make good money building and servicing pretentious log McMansions for rich yankees? Face it guys, Jackson ruined Jackson. If Jackson folks really liked cheap houses and rednecks, I guess they'd live in Idaho.

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NOBODY's to blame. That's right. NOBODY. Buncha trustafarians setting up an Ego Boost Enterprise to make weekend warriors at Ski Roundtop feel like they're badasses by affiliation with a JACKSON HOLE SKIING ENTERPRISE, they didn't change anything. They didn't bring more trustafarians to the Jackson region. Quite the contrary! They drove them outward!

I know this because "neckdeep," a badass e-skier on TGR, proclaimed its truth!

Get back to making your saturday morning windshield wiper turns on Minuteman at Ski Roundtop, and quit wishing you regularly skied snow that requires a snorkel, and quit pretending that posting on TGR makes you one seriously badass muthafucka.

Say, how's that Kitten Factory spancershit working out for ya, e-skier?

How long has @Wendystumm been using this alias "neckdeep"? Long enough to want to gentrify Driggs to make it more like Jackson?

Shaun White, Shaun Farmer, Shaun of the Dead, TGR, Jeremy Jones, Todd Jones, Steve Jones, Indiana Jones, skiing, snowboarding, bloging, freeriding, enduro, halfpipe, quarterpipe, an eighth, and hookers and blow all Jumped the Shark long before Jumping the Shark Jumped the Shark.

Indiana Jones nuked the fridge. The others "saved the world from climate change one ski trip at a time"