I needed to lose 6 or 7 pounds. Came down with a bad case of the flu over the holidays and it lasted a full week. Mission accomplished, although exercise would have been more enjoyable / rewarding.
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I needed to lose 6 or 7 pounds. Came down with a bad case of the flu over the holidays and it lasted a full week. Mission accomplished, although exercise would have been more enjoyable / rewarding.
Currently 6'2 173 after eating/drinking too much around the holidays - i should drop about 5lbs. Was down to 165 this summer, i've been as high as 205. I was around 180 until this summer, ended up dropping my gym membership and mostly running or riding my bike after work. I do some core work/leg jumps/pushups/basic dumbbell lifts a couple times a week at home but am much faster and feel better at the lighter weight. It's not like im getting in fights or trying to pick up chicks at the jersey shore so i'm okay being thinner.
I dropped down from the 205 weight by eating less and running. The key for me with the initial running then was doing it outside and not on a treadmill bc I tend to hit a wall and its easy to just stop on the treadmill, but when you're 3 miles from home, its either going to take you an hour to get back or you can suck it up and keep running.
I might be partial to running, but it burns the most calories of just about any popular activity (swimming might be close) since its full body with a lot of energy coming from the large leg muscles (which swimming uses less of).
Also with food my theory is its all about calories taken in for the day and being able to fuel yourself. Protein is a good fuel for recovery so eating that is good. Otherwise eat foods that will fill you up but are low in calories.
wow my given name is DavidQuote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Rover
you need to LOSE 9 out of every 10 words you type
thank jah I can't see the shit your probably spewinging
in the adverse room of stokeless talking head polidumbfucks
I never thought I was fat. A little over a year ago I weighed 215 at 6'3. Today I weigh 175. I have more muscle, and well really no fat. I did it by stop eating meat, I am basically a vegetarian with the little meat I eat being fish. I run 6 miles every other day, I biked 20-30 miles a day in the summer, I do yoga 1-2 times a day now. I don't eat desserts, I don't drink anymore. My bodyfat probably doesnt register, I have a six pack and am lean but built.
I am not on a diet, I just live better than I used too.
Starting to get back on the good train now. Constant travel/relationship cut my workouts from 5+days a week to 1 or 2. Now I'm climbing 2-3 days a week (with GF, which is good for both of us), skiing (once Tahoe has snow anyway) 2 days a week, and I figure everything else is gravy.
Never really ate badly, other than a love of good meat, but I'll be damned if I give up good food. I will note that I don't drink soda, eat veggies as snacks (because veggies are delicious) and cook healthy-ish meals most days.
So I got on the scale this morning. Down 10lbs since just before Xmas. I was hoping for 15, but I'll take 10. I still really have 20 to go though.
worthless without pics... :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by frozenwater
I've recently lost about 15lbs. From 180 to 165ish and I'm 5'9". The big change was meat. Less of it. Much less. I'm not a vegetarian, but meat is a delicacy. Like two bites if it's there.
After watching my father go through triple bypass surgery, I decided the typical American Diet is killing us. It's upside down. Our grand parents thought it was "eating well." Oops.
Ask anyone with heart disease their opinion on meat: "It's okay to eat a little. You need animal fat." Sounds just like the alcoholic: "I'm just going out for a beer or two." Yeah, right. "Just a little" always = "Just a little more."
Animal fat is addictive. Seriously. And even if you run marathons and are fit, if you eat a lot of animal fat you're still giving yourself heart disease. But now you have an enlarged heart that will have arteries too damaged or too large for stents. (see my father, the stent engineer who didn't even qualify for his own life's work and had to have his chest ripped open.) Fuck that shit. And Fuck the American Diet.
Once you eat well you'll stop counting calories and your taste buds will become more finely tuned to flavors other than fat.
Everything in your post is so completely, factually incorrect that I almost don't know where to start. You're putting yourself through misery for no reason at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
1) There is no correlation between red meat intake and heart disease, or between saturated fat and heart disease. Period. End of story.
Circulation. 2010 Jun 1;121(21):2271-83. Epub 2010 May 17.
Red and processed meat consumption and risk of incident coronary heart disease, stroke, and diabetes mellitus: a systematic review and meta-analysis.
Micha R, Wallace SK, Mozaffarian D.
Department of Epidemiology, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, MA, USA.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20479151
Red meat intake was not associated with CHD (n=4 studies; relative risk per 100-g serving per day=1.00; 95% confidence interval, 0.81 to 1.23; P for heterogeneity=0.36) or diabetes mellitus (n=5; relative risk=1.16; 95% confidence interval, 0.92 to 1.46;
Am J Clin Nutr 91: 535-546, 2010. Meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies evaluating the association of saturated fat with cardiovascular disease. Patty W Siri-Tarino, Qi Sun, Frank B Hu and Ronald M Krauss
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/short/91/3/535
“A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD.”
2) Obesity has risen dramatically since 1978 -- when the government first told us to eat a low-fat diet (particularly low in saturated fat) and eat less animal products. We dutifully did so, and got dramatically fatter.
http://www.gnolls.org/1086/the-lipid...art-1-of-many/
Type II diabetes is still skyrocketing, as is the heart disease that goes along with it. And we're eating less animal fat than ever. Did I mention that functional lifespan in the USA is now decreasing?
http://www.gnolls.org/864/the-lipid-...art-2-of-many/
3) "Heart-healthy whole grains" are what's making us fat.
http://www.gnolls.org/2052/how-heart...s-make-us-fat/
Eat more fatty meat (including organ meats), eggs, and vegetables -- and less birdseed and birdseed byproducts, e.g. "vegetable oil" -- and you'll be leaner, happier, and healthier than ever. Or we can keep supporting Monsanto and destructive industrial agriculture by eating lots of genetically engineered soy, corn, and wheat products.
We're humans, not birds or rodents. Grass seeds aren't part of our natural diet. Meat, on the other hand, is quite literally what made us human: the nutrients and calorie density of fatty meat allowed us to grow and maintain our huge brains. See references here:
http://www.gnolls.org/1763/why-humans-crave-fat/
15-20 and a break up. easy peasy
one time I lost 65 pounds in a few months heres how:
I got really fat
I started working outside
I got dumped and depressed and stopped eating
I started playing hockey
I really need to play more hockey but can't afford the league in Anchorage :(
still savin for the cessna?:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey
pretty much the same weight and waist size i graduated hs with
i need to cut the nicotine out of my diet.
super stoked 4 my wife to be a good 15 lb lighter than the day we wed that's like a lb a year:biggrin:
she's addicted to running yoga and skinning
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012...ps=sh_stcathdl
Interesting article, if poorly written, that seems to validate spats points without sounding all tin-foil-hat and cave-man.
WTF? No "Douche?" Spats doesn't have a reputation, afaik, of being a prick around here, but I was almost certain thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Spats
once I saw my post quoted that I'd be on the receiving end of preparing to avoid the butt-hurt. Instead of just writing me off as the imbecile that I apparently am, I get an education. Thanks, dude.
But, I'm not in misery, as you implied I should be for cutting down my meat consumption. Again, this is not black and white. I'm not a vegetarian. I eat meat. I consider animal fat a delicacy, not an entree. And since I've had this lifestyle change, I feel great. I'm 35 and the same weight I was when I was 25-- 165lbs @ 5'9". But now I'm not skiing 6 hours a day, but rather in an office for 8. I don't have the same active lifestyle, but cutting animal fat feels great. Maybe though, the great feeling comes from also cutting processed foods and just trying to be more healthy in general. Maybe I shouldn't point directly at animal fat.
After watching my father go through his heart surgery I started reading Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease by Dr. Esseltyn. He claims to reverse (not just prevent) heart disease with his patients over a 20 year study of plant-based diets. He's fairly extreme in his veganism, but I take it with a grain of salt. I'm not aiming to reverse anything, as he is pushing on his elder patients. But as he mentioned: Cancer, Heart Disease, and Diabetes aren't prevalent in developing countries that primarily only eat plant-based diets. The big 3 diseases are mostly prevalent in the U.S., where we went to school being served tater tots, nachos, and chocolate milk for lunch. The land of Processed foods where hamburgers and steak are also as common as milk. It's there that I learned not to trust the dietary education under which I was raised. The women of Okinawa are the longest living group of people on the planet so they must be doing something right. They do eat pork and fish, but very little red meat. Tones of vegetables, too, and rice. I think the single biggest difference between both cultures is the consumption of processed foods. You definitely see more gardens in Japan than you do pantries.
I've been looking (barely) for research on the other end to counter the anti-animal fat campaign, so thanks for posting it up. I knew it was out there waiting for me and I'll do some more reading as I'm always interested. Nonetheless, I'll still be treating my red meats as delicacies to accompany my fresh veggies, fishes, home-made whole grain bread and rice.... nothing processed or from a convenience store. Maybe that's enough to avoid becoming one of the majority of 35+yo's in the US who are already developing heart disease, or the severe majority of seniors over 65 who already suffer from it.
It's funny. When I started exploring other dietary lifestyles after my summer vacation home to see papa, so many people were telling me "You're only 35, you don't have to worry about that yet." Right. I want to wait until I'm 65 and it's a problem that I can't solve anymore before I worry about it. :roll eyes: Even my doctor here in JP looked at me strange when I requested a lipid count and cholesterol evaluation.
"You're only 35." Yup. And someday I'd like to be 135. :smile: Hopefully a combination of diet and medicine make that possible.
6'3" 225. Been as high as 245 and got that down to 215 by taking lots of walks and hikes with the dog and doing some p90x. Dog died and the walks/hikes stopped. I started running in Oct. Could barely do 60 seconds. I'm up to 25 min without stopping but I'm not losing weight because my diet sucks big time, I love to eat! I'm hoping that since my aerobic endurance is better I can complete the p90x while still running 3-4 times a week.
Yea.... Because posting my bare chested photo online has ALWAYS led to good times.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nohillsnearby
Down 11lbs over the last 4days, I'm following the simple "strep throat" plan.
It's not as glamorous as it sounds.
hahaha. forgot about "that" photo...
Everyone here whose paid attention knows exactly where Spats stands on the issue. He's an advocate for eating red meat and the paleo style diet. If it works for him, that's great, but it's not the only diet that works. There are plenty of healthy vegans and vegetarians out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
Whenever I feel the need to drop some weight I use the revolutionary method of consuming less food.
Crazy but it sure does work!
In an evolutionary context we are all the same and paleo/primal is generally a one-size-fits-all diet. That’s the whole rationale behind it, actually. As for those healthy vegans/vegetarians, this is one of the many examples of confusing correlation with causation in nutrition. They tend to also avoid sugar and processed food, which is a very large piece of the puzzle relative to SAD. Anecdotally speaking, though, I think you’d be hard pressed to find those that have tried both vegetarian and paleo diets claiming that vegetarian is healthier.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
I lost over 30 pounds (~180 lbs. to ~150 lbs. at 5’7”) and five inches off my waist (35” to 30”) in six weeks following Spats’ program (thanks again Spats!). I don’t pay much attention to my weight anymore as I’m into fine-tuning now and weight is a very crude metric. As Spats mentioned, the weight (fat) loss was only one of many health benefits I noticed. I plan on eating this way for the rest of my life.
I recommend anyone looking to trim down (well, anyone at all, for that matter) to try Spats' “Eat like a predator, not like prey” for at least one month and see how it goes. What’s one month over a life span? My own experience has been one of incredible changes and discovery and I can’t imagine why anyone would want to deny themselves the same opportunity.
I tend to agree, Lizhnik.
I think there are WAY too many carbohydrates in our present diet, as a whole...from simple carbohydrates to complex carohydrates.
Yes...I said complex carbs too. Everyone already knows that simple carbs, while great for quick energy, are to be minimized in the diet. sucrose, high fructose corn syrups, soft drinks, etc. But while a large prcentage of the complex carbs are generally good for us...the leafy veggies, legumes, whole grains, etc, it is the HUGE percentage of these complex carbs in our diet, ESPECIALLY processed grains like breads and pastas, that diminish their natural healthiness simply in the high amounts of these that we consume.
We are not horses...we are not range feeders. We are omnivores. Now if the complex carbs that we were taking in were from leafy veggies and legumes, that would be one thing...much better. But our modern complex carb intake is heavily loaded towards the "grains" side of the complex carbohydrates.
But the biggest problem I think facing us is the government-sanctioned use of the simple carbohydrate (simple sugar) high-fructose corn syrup. That shit is fully subsidized by the gov because it the midwest corn agribusiness lobby is HUGE and powerful. There is NOTHING good about high-fructose corn syrup!!!! I wish our gov would stop stupidly subsiidizing that crap and the damned corn-ethanol also.
As far as proteins....it makes sense to pay attention to WHAT type of proteins. Red meat is not inherently bad if taken in moderation. We are not leopards, so we need more than red meats, but red meat is not the sin it is made out to be if eaten smartly. And eating huge steaks every night while getting little exercise is not smart.
There is no smart food. "Smart food" is paying attention to what you're taking in. Learning about it...and adjusting your diet so it's not heavily loaded to one side.
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One thing for SURE....kids are getting fatter. Adults are getting fatter, too, of course. But most folks are unlucky enough to have inherited a metabolism that gives them a "stomach" and "love handles" after 40 or 45.
But KIDS....kids used to basically be thin. The odd one would be fat, but not often. Nowadays it seems at LEAST 50% of the kids are overweight. WTF is going on here?
It's NOT just that kids are doing less physical activity, although that is partly to blame. Kids in MY generation used to spend freaking HOURS in front of the TV....but we were STILL thin. So it's not just lack of activity. It's something else. Sure, back then we'd also be climbing trees, jumping off shed roofs, running around everywhere...but that still doesn't amount to the difference.
The difference is HIGH-FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP. The increased use of high-fructose corn syrup in practically ALL prepared food exactly correlates with the alarming increase in overweight kids.
Here is the worst of the worst:
Complex Carbohydrates topped with shitloads of simple carbohydrates. Figure out what I mean. :)
Sliced complex carbohydrates fried in complex carbohydrate-derived hydrogenated oil.
Carbonated simple carbohydrates in a can.
Youtube, TV, couch-surfing, TGR-surfing, facebook-surfing and much less exercise.
Combine all the above....mix in a bunch of grain-derived liquid FERMENTED complex carbohydrates....
And you end up with FAT.....loads and loads of it !!!!
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