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It’s such a small operation that it impacts through April at the very least.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
To add on: yes, I am. Because it forces me back to working seven days per week to make up for the lost time even though it’s only six days/month as you referenced (well, you said four, but I digress).
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It’s economic science lolQuote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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Never burned a bridge with an employer in my life. Imagine that.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldnew_guy
Me either, but I still find it fascinating that we watch thousands of people get laid off without notice and still companies expect to get two weeks.
Not surprising at all to me that people walk away from low wage, part time work, crap managers, ever shifting work schedules, etc with no notice. Of course the economic worm will turn and people might regret their decisions.
Maybe if you kept it in your pants they wouldn't have quit?Quote:
Originally Posted by FortySixMac
You’re painting with a very, very broad brush.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldnew_guy
- competitive wages for the position (especially with full, paid OJT spanning 1.5 months; no prior experience) with raises during their tenure
- part time by their request as they have a full time job and wanted to be involved in the industry nonetheless
- schedule is never shifting, and not a single occurrence of “no notice” shifts — always planned a month in advance with the same recurring weekday plus one weekend per month in addition.
- no managers, just me, the owner — so, maybe shitty owner?
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Hazard pay at least!Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
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If this is happening repeatedly, maybe look inward at the operation and wether you rely on too many part time staff?
In this case the person that resigned has a ft job so they had no incentive to give advance notice. I’m sure their full time employer isn’t bummed out.
Seven days a week and you get the profit?
I’m always amazed at employers and their cluelessness. If you are losing employees it’s not because they’re shitty. You need to make it worthwhile for them to stay and make money for you.
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I think i see the problem.
You employ people, yes?
Do you give people two week notice when you let them go?Quote:
Originally Posted by FortySixMac
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'Outdoor industry' and 'competitive wages for the industry' are the tipoffs to the problem.
The 'outdoor industry' is notorious for paying crap wages for work that would pay double or even triple in pretty much any other field.
PS, claiming the employee owes you something for training makes you look like a bad owner. That is a cost of doing business and exclusively on you. Also claiming a 6 day a month employee is so mission critical is a bit over the top. No business should be running that lean because you will perpetually be in a state of stress.
That all bluntly said, if this is a one off scenario it could just be this employee got an ultimatum from their full time employer (or maybe their wife/partner) and well, shit needed to change because that other job pays the rent. Shit happens sometimes and if a one off I wouldn't take it personally. Realistically there are different standards for part time vs full time work.
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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
That assumes a lot.
Aren’t your employees essentially giving you one week notice when they quit a 1 day a week job?
I would argue that the lack of performance and actions leading to resignation would be intercepted and hopefully corrected before they resign. Two way street, and as others have said this is an opportunity for some self reflection.Quote:
Originally Posted by FortySixMac
If you see it happen every once in a while, well, that’s life. But if it’s an issue for you you are missing something with the relationship, communication, your work environment, or your compensation package.
Edited original — not happening repeatedly thankfullyQuote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
Agreed, no incentive to give notice
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I’m talking in generalities here. Not specific to the op but that could be the problem. If it is then some introspection would be helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
I’ve had amazing employers and terrible ones and everything in between. Employees carry the water to enrich business owners small and large. If you’re employing someone it means that you can’t do it on your own and have the same level of wealth.
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Right. The imagined obligations are amazing, here…Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
If I have a manager who is running into issues keeping people on their team, I can usually trace it back to their management skillset. It would be a huge red flag if they had a single person quit without notice, much less if it happened more than once.
You're hiring for gig work but have expectations of them like a career employee?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It is plausible that OP suffered a slight from an employee that could have more empathy and fostered a better parting relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
That said, given most of us live in the land of "at will" where you can be immediately downsized at the drop of hat at the whims of execs looking for a stock bump - it's laughable that employers expect all the considerations and give none.
Let's take a boiler plate CEO message but change the orientation so its from the POV of the employee - cause it swings both ways.
"Change is never easy and [we / I] don't take these decisions lightly. [Dynamic market changes | Strong labor market] force [us / me] to make tough choices to maintain [our competitive position | career growth]. It is with deep [We / I] regret to inform you, that effective immediately [I resign | your position has been eliminated]. [We / I] wish you well on your future opportunities and thank you for you [past contributions | employment]."
Don't see it as them quitting, rather they fired their employer. Then it tracks the same.
how about the filthy lucre ?
People may have been happy enough just cruising along pre-covid but they may be needing mo money post covid so they quit for more ,
I know the LBS lost 2 valuable & long time employees trading the race-face shorts & etnies for coveralls, going back to the old job for mo money
but they were full time & did give notice, I gotta wonder what kind of notice / re-numeration OP would give that same very part time employee
not that it would matter cuz that job will be very hard to fill for the above reasons
Well two if they say they have to take their next shift off for "personal reasons"Quote:
Originally Posted by Peruvian
what did they do for you ? how much is pay ? I might need a part time job.Quote:
Originally Posted by FortySixMac
On the flip side of this, I once learned I got fired when I left the office to take a shit (shared bathroom with another firm on the floor) and my badge didn't work to get back in. I do enjoy a leisurely dump on company time, but it was still pretty ruthless. 53rd floor, since I know some of you are wondering...Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree