Well, I voted #1 with the implicit understanding that there was going to be a big 'ole die-cut FKNA on the base.
But I still want the blue bombers the mostest.
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Well, I voted #1 with the implicit understanding that there was going to be a big 'ole die-cut FKNA on the base.
But I still want the blue bombers the mostest.
I don't like any of the graphics, how's that? ;)
First the ski gets cut down to a boring, mundane length because people seem to be afraid of a big ski, and now the graphics are being watered down because people don't want planes or bombs on their skis, even though DM has addressed those issues? When was it more conducive, before people built planes and bombs? The skis are "bomber" and hopefully you'll be dropin' some "bombs" off cliffs. Or I guess you can super-overanalyze a frickin' ski topsheet and get whatever you want out of it.
Sounds like a bunch of sissies running around this board. Too much time in a cubicle. :p
I think DM still has some dirty monkey love for the Pocket Rockets, hence the Blue Bomber. The Brown Bomber (hey, now that's funny) looks too much like the 4FRNT 187 MSP (96 waist... bomber ski, hmmmmm). http://newschoolers.com/PHP/Pictures...e_original.jpg
As you probably know, I have always appreciated the off the wall point of view, BB.
Splat, I don't think a winner has been designed yet. Don't force the issue due to time constraints, also, have another no ka oi type design thread. That will prove successful for ya!
FKNA, splat... FKNA...
Besides, nobody ever seems to think of what a ski looks like with bindings on it. My old yellow AK Launchers had this pretty cool looking "LAUNCHER" graphic that was 90% covered up by them. Good plan... :rolleyes:
What no vikings?
We got two weeks or more for this, blurred, good point.
Tryin not to cover too much with binders, BB, so we'll just put Tbolts in that allow you to screw up from the bottom straight into your boots. :D
Yeah, I should not have said "final" in the thread title.
id like the blue bombers in a 205 please. where do i send my check?
Making many different lengths is a bit costly, so we cut the length at that which will work best for the most. Give us some time to get our first line off the ground and if all goes well, next year will see more lengths. But if you really want it in a 205, we can do it for the price of many skis on shop shelves.
To be 100% completely honest... I'm not a graphic designer, but I play one on the Internet. :DQuote:
Originally posted by drugged_monkey
To be 100% completely honest...I wouldn't let any of those skis touch my boots. I think the first round got nudered and it's obvious in these. You can dismiss my criticisms saying I'm close to the project, but looking at the first round to the second round looks like a giant step backwards. Trust me. I do this for a living. Not a hobby. Blue Bomber owns in my book.
The Bomber Line
Seriously, we're just having fun, playing around with the images and ideas that get us excited and stoked. We're not professional designers, but this is not just a "hobby" for any of us at PM GEAR. We're pouring our souls (and dollars and time) into this project, and I'm working very hard to do the best job I can with the resources I have available to me.
Getting some feedback here from the Maggots is abolutely invaluable. J, your designs are stellar and I'd be proud to own a ski with any of your designs on them. I personally like the one with the bowling-ball bomb on it, except that I think too many people will be alienated by the violent theme (silly, sissy, femme, whatever, it's how people feel, which is ok).
Anyway, thanks for your feedback. If you've got suggestions for any of the designs, I'd appreciate if you'd share your ideas (email, phone, post here, whateva)
Peace!
First off, I dont look at graffix when choosing a ski.
but, i do think this batch of graffix suck, and are a huge step backwards from the first-gen graffix.
and this zen theme shit...
these are on par with the second gen 7xk purple graffix, but, still when it comes to gear of any type, I dont care about cosmetics.
If it was me I would go plain and bold, very consertive, so no one thinks they are rad, no one thinks they are shit....make graffix a non issue, so they can think about what matters, how it rides.
We're not really comparing apples to apples here. Some of the skis even have different names.
I think someone needs to make some firm decisions about a definite name/theme etc... Then you can design a ski.
BB, those 4frnt graphics are sweet.
phUnk, not Pocket Rocket blue, PR blue is much more saturated and the ski in general is space aged and monochromatic. The same "bomber" design in a different color would be just as sick. :D
And people are way too damn literal. That's like saying Salomon Space frames supported the challenger explosion, and Explosives (with the wizard) support witchcraft or the dark arts. Give me a break. They're graphics and nowhere on the ski (blue one) is there anything that shows or implies anything about war. The plane icon I used is from a Clipart set about international travel!!! Sheesh. I'm the biggest peace hippy out there.
I totally agree with Brett on this. Throw it open for a week or so and see what happens. I know Optics was biting his tongue back there, you may recall he had some nice designs in the No Ka Oi comp. I'm sure others could bring it too.Quote:
Originally posted by BlurredElevens
Don't force the issue due to time constraints, also, have another no ka oi type design thread. That will prove successful for ya!
Nothing against what has been shown, but more wouldn't hurt anything.
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Originally posted by iceman
I totally agree with Brett on this. Throw it open for a week or so and see what happens. I know Optics was biting his tongue back there, you may recall he had some nice designs in the No Ka Oi comp. I'm sure others could bring it too.
Nothing against what has been shown, but more wouldn't hurt anything.
double dido
I agree -- I'm super stoked on lots of the newer companies graphics out there.... The new Armada stuff is bad ass, the 4FRNT stuff is rad, the new Line stuff aint too shabby -- especially the Pollard Pros. And the K2 graphics have been ownerizing since Schmies and crew started doing them.Quote:
Originally posted by drugged_monkey
BB, those 4frnt graphics are sweet.
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And people are way too damn literal. That's like saying Salomon Space frames supported the challenger explosion, and Explosives (with the wizard) support witchcraft or the dark arts. Give me a break. They're graphics and nowhere on the ski (blue one) is there anything that shows or implies anything about war. The plane icon I used is from a Clipart set about international travel!!! Sheesh. I'm the biggest peace hippy out there.
That's what I was trying to understand.... Its easy for people with certain agendas and biases to look at something and automatically assume a negative connotation behind them. ITS JUST A FRICKIN' SKI GRAPHIC. Does Seth Morrison want to Destroy people with his gun and bullet? No, he just wants to destroy the terrain, and schralp the fuck out of it.
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Originally posted by BakerBoy
Does Seth Morrison want to Destroy people with his gun and bullet? No, he just wants to destroy the terrain, and schralp the fuck out of it.
Right on the money BB.
i'm with DM's first round as well. these new graphics are a steep back for sure. i'd rather see a solid color background than type elements repeating themselves and worse yet blurred. and god damn it i am a graphic design professional so my opinion counts twice :rolleyes:
anyway you aren't gonna be going into full blown production for a little bit so take that time and get something really dialed. maybe narrow it down to two graphics that are pretty different then put them out on the board and let people vote.
and obviously just putting the graphics out on the board was gonna churn up some opinions so try to keep cool. you guys are doing a great job! it's a helluvalot easier to cap on somebody else's work than doing it yourself.
Thanks for all the feeback guys - keep it coming!
I voted 5, but I'd honestly rather have the yellow bomber. Awesome graphics, I gotta be with DM on this one. You've transitioned from a cohesive design to more of a generic feel. All are good, but you guys honestly need to make a splash with this first series if you want it to succeed. You need people to do a double take, which they won't be doing on most of these, since part of the FKNA will be under the boot, rendering it illegible. BTW, how late can we get preorders in?
I thought we agreed on Cheap Hoars as the name....I know I did.
I'd like to see some more stuff from DM as well as stuff from the collective. Seems like some more creative input could only help.
I just can't wait to hear the reviews after the Hood Mini. The topsheet design is secondary to me.
no pirates or carnies eitherQuote:
Originally posted by ak_powder_monkey
What no vikings?
sorry, i should have been clearer.. didnt mean that literally (though my quiver is missing a ~205 wide body right now ;) ).. i love the blue bomber graphics.. and dont think it symbolizes anything but bombing the crap out of whatever. they look goooooood. as for the rest, 2Ps stuff is neat. this obviously isnt a democracy though, or we would have them in 201, 202, 203, 204, and 205 ;) best of luck to you all, it must be exciting to be involved in this.
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Originally posted by bagtagley
I just can't wait to hear the reviews after the Hood Mini. The topsheet design is secondary to me.
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