His point is valid though. The insane number of voters on the right that are willing to vote for whoever, as long as they are Republicans, is crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
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His point is valid though. The insane number of voters on the right that are willing to vote for whoever, as long as they are Republicans, is crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
That's even more proof. He's got an even worse record then the very bad one he got elected on in 2004 yet he still has the support of a THIRD of the country. That tells me that short of coming out saying that you'd like to nuke every major American city when you get in office you automatically have a third of the country on your side no matter what you do. You can throw another %20 on top of that who will stick red as long as you don't look like a disaster and right there is %50 of the vote. The Dem side is much the same way for a solid 50/50 split between the two, yet you have these two idiots somehow thinking that a landslide is going to be involved :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
He was voted humorist of the 19th century, didn't U read spooks post? ....don't worry most people don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlpineJunkie
Obama is amazing, sure he doesn't yet have as detailed a policy or experience like Hillary, but neither did Bill when he ran in '92. Slick made up 4 it with his passion, great public speaking skills, empathy and a good amount of intellectual curiosity.
The crowds reaction when Obama speaks is so energetic, Hillary's by contrast sounds like a fucking funeral sometimes. all her supporters know she is officially screwed. ....until she pays off the 700+ super delegates (which is fucking discraceful 2 even have)
Since the majority of voters started paying attention to mobs and sound-bites and stopped doing research... Always.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_gyptian
He actually has a %33 approval rating at the moment. Congress is well below that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MassLiberal
According to which biased poll?
Bush job approval Approve Disapprove Undecided
Feb 2008 19% 77% 4%
Jan 2008 34% 59% 7%
Dec 2007 32% 66% 2%
Nov 2007 31% 64% 5%
Oct 2007 25% 67% 8%
Sep 2007 34% 60% 6%
Aug 2007 28% 65% 7%
Jul 2007 25% 71% 4%
Jun 2007 27% 67% 6%
May 2007 31% 64% 5%
Apr 2007 33% 62% 5%
Mar 2007 32% 63% 5%
Feb 2007 39% 56% 5%
http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/
Here is a list of all of them. As you can see the real approval rating by the big respected pollers place his number between %30 and %35.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pol...ve/?poll_id=19
...Btw Root, nice try on that ridiculous site you used lol. "Bush's approval rating is %2! Look here! On this site I made!" lol
"A certain penache"? Obama is the most compelling public speaker since Hitler. And he's certainly light years past Bill Clinton. Bill has certainly helped his "wife's" campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rontele
http://http://www.healthyplace.com/c...m_defined.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by spook
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche
..and then there's her face. And her charming "personality".Quote:
Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush
That's "Undecided" you moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlpineJunkie
Actually moron I was using a completely arbitrary low number to exagerate his also incredibly low %19 which you can see from my previous post that I had quoted and was fully aware of..... moron. Try reading the posts before responding nice next time. Ok. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by RootSkier
Hey AJ, go to your local grocery store, and ask the first 100 people that come out of the store.
I think you would be amazed.
Good points hombre. I think it's different than four or eight years ago. You could be right though. I really don't think Obama will win in a landslide if that's what you are insinuating. I think it'll be close between Obama or Clinton and McCain.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlpineJunkie
So, MassLib lets say Obama gets the nod do you get on board and vote for him?
I don't like correlating MLK with Obama (or anyone 4 that matter.)
He has a special place in US history and the equal rights movement(at least 4 americans with a conscience)
Yes, both men are black, and their word have moved grown men to tears, but Obama still has 2 prove he can stand in the face of corruption and inequality and take the stand MLK did
You look at that link? It lists all the polls done by all the groups. Take your pick, newspaper, cable news, TV news, liberal, conservative, independent, they all arrive at the same conclusion of between %30 and %35.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
No, I asked YOU to go out and do it.
Seriously.
It would only take a bit of time, and would be all your own.
Go try it.
Regardless of Obama's platform and/or policies, or lack thereof, my point is that he seems to be winning over the masses. There may be some zealots in this country who are not ready, and will not give him the opportunity, to ever get elected. That is my fear.
For all those who are smarter than me, what would happen if Obama won the nomination and, on the eve of the election, something happenned to him. Who would step into his shoes?
I think I am the only one who 'got' your fear from the original post.
Get your facts straight. Obama has outspent hillary on superdelegates 2 to 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat
Don't even get me started on JFK...anyway, what's your litmus test for a President?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_gyptian
Not exactly scientific. You prefer I do this at "Red Army's Food Supply" in Berkeley or at "Nigger Hater's Supermarket" in Birmingham?Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Do it at Wal-Mart.
Great, "White Trash Emporium", I'm sure that will be a very balanced and objective polling sample :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
is my username massindependent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush
Of course I work for him. I do think that he has potential, it's just that his lack of specifics and willingness to throw democrats under the bus troubles me. His first two years as president will be rough, just like every other inexperienced president's, and I am extremely disappointed with the direction he has taken on Health Care. But he's still worlds better than McCain.
Plus, he'll need some experienced field directors. His organizing ability has been fantastic in Caucuses, but somewhat lacking in the type of match up he will see in the general. I've already been offered the Job by the DNC, so I'm working for the D presidential candidate no matter who it is.
Oh please. His willingness to throw Democrats under the bus?
He has done more to build the Democratic party than the Clinton's have, by a fucking longshot. I realize you are on her payroll and all, but let's be real.