Electcshun cycle shootings.
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a couple days later in MD this time, a teen shot & killed another teen in school
jfc
You've gone off the deep end bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by sb
I think that makes it 46 school shooting so far this year then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ::: :::
Great work everyone!
I cannot believe we live in a country where a 14 year old kid gets an AR15 as a Xmas present.
What happened to let’s buy the kid some skies or maybe a snowboard or skateboard [emoji12] for Christmas ? We could go out and play as a family and maybe, the kids find a useful passion. Families that play together, stay together. I like dogs, kids and guns for hunting, but guns should not define us.
It’s all the rage. You’re not a true conservative without a well armed family for Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
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That shit is just sick.
We’re fuct.
We got a Christmas card like that one year from my sil
It’s scary, embarrassing, and tone deaf all at once.
It demonstrates just how little people think of gun lethality despite the performative safe trigger finger display.
https://apnews.com/article/northern-...bf883fac523f36
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Pernik said that Arroyo’s family had reached out to various country agencies to get help for him but that “unfortunately, he did not receive that mental health help in time before this tragic incident.”
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Deputies found a crashed pickup truck and recovered eight firearms, including long rifles, shotguns and handguns, at the scene. After executing a search warrant on Arroyo’s camper, they found another seven firearms, including an illegal AK-47 assault rifle, two ghost guns, and about 2,000 rounds of various calibers of ammunition, Rosas said.
Nothing says Christmas like an instrument of death!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder
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60 years for making threats to shoot up Helena High School. So grateful to the girl who had the guts to report him.
https://www.bozemandailychronicle.co...da3ada16c.html
Well, he found God so they should be lenient.
Why don’t they all enlist in the service , better yet, go volunteer for the military in Ukraine
I know one guy that has multiple ARs that he uses to dress up and tramp around his property LARPing. I’ve known him since high school. He always used to talk about joining the military but he’s too much of a wuss. Thinks he’s a bad ass prepper but admitted in a recent group text that he’s so soft he’s never taken a shit in the woods. Military is too hard, easier to read war stories and spend time on AR-15.com fantasying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
How much time does he spend in the Guns!!!! thread?
Really, what difference does he make if he's charged or rots in jail? It's of such little solace to someone who lost a kid what happens to this turd. The laws are fucked because there are just enough people with rotten brains like exsparky to prevent this from happening with such alarming regularity that another huge portion of the population is just numb to it.
Beyond deplorable.
Really, what difference does he make if he's charged or rots in jail? It's of such little solace to someone who lost a kid what happens to this turd. The laws are fucked because there are just enough people with rotten brains like exsparky to prevent this from happening with such alarming regularity that another huge portion of the population is just numb to it.
Beyond deplorable.
^ no idea what you are on about. What's deplorable is the parenting. And now parents are being held responsible for their gross neglect. As they should be.
The point he makes at the end is now the law going forward is going to hold parents responsible for their minors actions.
Gun laws are voted on and will continue to be. In states where the people vote to make firearms more restricted, they are.
Obviously firearms should be kept out of minors hands.
Now texting and driving on the other hand.
“Parenting”?
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Originally Posted by byates1
It's not hard to understand. Holding parents "responsible" will not bring back dead kids. Sure, this example in GA may have been egregious (although he might not have broken any laws) but most permissive states dont have storage requirements, allow basically anyone to buy and carry, etc.
Red flags laws clearly don't work.
What works everywhere else is making people prove they are responsible. That the weapons are cared for. Knowing where they are. We need to adjust the way we look at guns to prevent this kind of thing from happening all of the time. There is a way to do that while still permitting qualified people to buy/hold/hunt whatever. Some good old bureaucracy an solve problems - and just adding red tape and expense - would save lives too.
You are also wrong that gun laws are voted on. Trump did the bump stock law by executive order. We haven't had meaningful legislation since the Brady Bill or Assault Weapon Ban 1994 that expired in 2004? Coming around on three decades for something the public wants proves how dumb and ineffective our politics are. We should be able to make them vote on shit like this, but there is one party that is bought and paid for. I forget which one and don't want to hurt anyone's feefees by getting political.
Gun laws work, but they would be a lot better if it wasn't a patchwork of shit decided by states because guns are pretty easy to move around.
Waste of time explaining this to people who just want to put fingers in their ears and complain about video games or phones though.
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Originally Posted by byates1
It's not hard to understand. Holding parents "responsible" will not bring back dead kids. Sure, this example in GA may have been egregious (although he might not have broken any laws) but most permissive states dont have storage requirements, allow basically anyone to buy and carry, etc.
Red flags laws clearly don't work.
What works everywhere else is making people prove they are responsible. That the weapons are cared for. Knowing where they are. We need to adjust the way we look at guns to prevent this kind of thing from happening all of the time. There is a way to do that while still permitting qualified people to buy/hold/hunt whatever. Some good old bureaucracy an solve problems - and just adding red tape and expense - would save lives too.
You are also wrong that gun laws are voted on. Trump did the bump stock law by executive order. We haven't had meaningful legislation since the Brady Bill or Assault Weapon Ban 1994 that expired in 2004? Coming around on three decades for something the public wants proves how dumb and ineffective our politics are. We should be able to make them vote on shit like this, but there is one party that is bought and paid for. I forget which one and don't want to hurt anyone's feefees by getting political.
Gun laws work, but they would be a lot better if it wasn't a patchwork of shit decided by states because guns are pretty easy to move around.
Waste of time explaining this to people who just want to put fingers in their ears and complain about video games or phones though.
Let me know what other basic concepts I can help you with https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0e3115a07b.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by ::: :::
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There’s smart and dumb and everything in between people in every country.
There are great and horrible/deplorable parents and everything in between in every country.
Yet in the US the 2a morons just say “don’t even worry about it bro - the US gun problems will be solved with votes. And good parenting and charging the parents after the fact. And oh yeah more Jesus in the schools”
Go ahead and say that to the parents of the dead kids - I’m sure they are sorely missing your comforting words and reassurance.
The US is a patchwork of states. Some w vastly different ways of life. Just wishing immediate sweeping outlawing of firearms is all fine and dandy until -reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker
The deep blue states have done a thorough job of making firearms inaccessible. NYS, try signing up for whatever class you need to - like a 2 yr wait. Purposely preventing ppl from buying firearms.
Cali- mag restrictions. Can't get those. Most weapons don't have them available. Hence -guns illegal.
These laws were created and voted into existence.
nowhere did i say “ban guns”. it’s so weird how if anyone says anything about making guns harder to get all gun freaks hear is “ban guns”.
instead of letting a broken home loser going through a divorce from his druggie wife buy multiple ars, imagine asking
why do you need it
how will it be stored
where’s your insurance
any combination of possible questions to keep guns out of people’s hands who obviously shouldn’t have them.
are you arguing with the results? because a bunch of dead kids is not a good result.
throw in 30k suicides, all of the stolen ones from cars going to criminals etc and
WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE DOING
Why don't you enlighten us as to the incredibly easy task of doing away w 2a. You sound like a smart guy. Should be fairly simple. I'd love to hear your plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
How about: how do you propose to control parenting?Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
I would just start using colons for everyone's names.
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Originally Posted by byates1
So is legislating easy or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Yes. I'm guessing you lean left. I think you live somewhere in New England. A lot of those states have legislated around the 2a "problem". Highly restrictive. NYS now background check for ammo. MA,CT,NJ, basically illegal. Everyone I know who owns firearms won't for a second consider bringing them there, me included.
I just drove to NYS from MT. Not worth it to travel w a handgun. Not at all. Asked a NYS trooper for clarification when I was home. He said he won't travel w guns when off duty.
NH was just voted as the most gun friendly state. Live free or die. so a patchwork.
The US is 50 countries nextdoor to each other.
just empty deflection, much like blaming “parenting”Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
“personal responsibility“ next
Check out this SWU interview with what appears to be a fantastic cop. Towards the end he asks her about the most dangerous aspect of her job. Answer: everyone has a gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker
https://youtu.be/ntjn7l8Tf60?si=SXRGPHSeIVq6cJI4
So you believe in 0 need for solid parenting and taking 0 accountability. Can I buy you a couple ar's?Quote:
Originally Posted by ::: :::
Let me guess. You aren't a parent and don't know any.
How does a nation of “50 countries” make this happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Please be specific
Now we’re back to a straw man argument. Of course good parenting is important. Accountability for one’s actions and those that they are responsible for is important. That has nothing to do with the ease of access to firearms, the thing that concerns the majority of people in this country. The cause of all the gun violence isn’t bad parenting and lack of personal responsibility is ease of access, legal or otherwise. Can you grasp that?Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
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there’s no legislating around 2a anymore, if there ever was:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_..._Inc._v._Bruen
bunch of people shot from an overpass today:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kentucky-...5-shooting.amp
Bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
I live in a deep blue part of a solidly blue state. I could get an AR style gun in one hour - and most of that time would just be driving. I could buy a .22 at the local hardware store or any .243 up to 30.06 rifle at the hunting/fishing store that's walking distance from my house. Or I could go old school with a 12 ga shotgun.
CPL is dead easy in this state too, although you do have to be 21. But if you can't get one, that's ok, there's a guy running a ghost gun factory out of his (father's) house. Or maybe I should say was because he was raided by the swat team a few months ago. But he wasn't the only one.