But once everyone else hikes their prices 10% like SC did...it will seem like a value once again!Quote:
Originally Posted by g_man80
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But once everyone else hikes their prices 10% like SC did...it will seem like a value once again!Quote:
Originally Posted by g_man80
Yeah, we've got a few of those guys around here. Just a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
I’m sweating buying a $4000 gravel bike. Meanwhile everyone around me in town buys a $20,000 snowmobile or side by side every year. I’m doing something wrong.
I really like the paint job on that $20,000 Scott bike though...
i'm talking beyond dentist ,
I was hanging out at the shop a year ago 4pm on a shittty lazy saturday waiting to close, someone named BoB
leaves a filthy sand encrusted 20K+ pinerello, 3 mechanics including the manager jump on this abused bike they take everything apart and make it perfect, Bob has it back before closing
i comment that Bob sure abuses his bike and that is a terrible way to treat such a thoroughbred bike bike and BTW what does bob do? they are like yeah Bob owns a lot of things, he spends alot of $$$$$, every year and he uses the gear
Bikes are weird - when you compare them to say a boat or a sled habit - cheap.
But they more closely resemble a dirt bike and wtf?
Crf250r is 4gs less than that rocky and within reach of what I just dropped on an ibis.
the price per LB is insane
have you got the new bike yet ?
not that it matters cuz there is nowhere to ride it
Not yet - thanks again for the hookup Al. Probably going to head over to pg to pickup this bad boy next week (need anything at costco?)
Your boy was great to work with and I am super pumped
Who needs an engine!.. and a foot of travel..
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The whole point of bikes is to ride them not to hang on the wall. Props to Bob for using his fancy toys.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
I don't have 20k bikes all of my bikes currently have mud and scratches on them. Drivetrains get cleaned, suspension gets maintained, but fuck if Im going to avoid riding cause my bike might get dirty. Chains and bearings are cheap.
This is a very old retort, but when Rocky is selling 2 MILLION of these things per year in a global market, I bet their prices could come down a few G’s, too. Oh, and when weight is basically a non-issue as well. And when they sell the same basic platform for 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by LHutz Esq
EDIT: I have no actual idea how many crf’s are sold per year, but you get my point.
The problem with price per pound is that a big part of what makes bikes so expensive is how light they are given the beating they can take.
Edit: basically was rideit was mumbling. [emoji16]
I've been keeping an eye out for a used Revved Megatrail frame, hopefully this makes that more likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
^^^ exactly. Also, you can purchase basically the exact same MTB’s that are raced at the highest levels of the sport. I don’t know moto, but it is my understanding that the bikes top level guys use are very different and way more expensive than anything available at local dealerships.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
True, and usually can only be ridden a couple times (under 10 hours) before full rebuilds on the engine are needed. I didn’t get the durability aspect of MtB til I picked it up and realized what a thrashing they go through and how long we expect them to last.Quote:
Originally Posted by One (+) Sentence
That said, I’m going to make the controversial statement much like the boots thread and say 90% of riders are overbiked. Once you get past a Fox34/Deore build the rest is certainly not necessary for the majority of folks on the hill daily.
That's a very old retort to the very old retort.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
All told competition class bikes have had a slow growth (Canada data here: https://www.mmic.ca/mmic-industry-st...-summary-full/) - well until 2020 which is a bit of an anomaly we can all agree. Mountain bikes - have had solid growth even before 2020.
My point is more that as the price differential turns (high end mtn bikes becoming more and more expensive than high end dirt) and more dirt co's go electric (many say the limiting factor for motorized dirt bikes is limited legal riding space). You can see folks turning to the motorized version is all. It just gets tempting. I know I was tempted. A plated dirt bike offers some great opportunities up here. (CRF450l is 12,000 pesos - 9500 freedom units up here)
That being said - I will keep beating the piss out of my '94 xr and riding my brand spankin' new Ibis for a while yet.
.. oh and dirt bikers can be weight wheenies as well, hence part of the KTM premium (their 450 is like 220lbs.)
I think a lot of it is just cultural. Mtn bikers are just willing to pay more. Best deals on dh goggles, gloves, jerseys - try the mx shops.
A completely stock top of the line mountain bike is essentially identical to what the pros are riding.
A completely stock, top of the line dirt bike is not even close to what the pros are riding. If you want a pro level dirt bike, you're looking at a solid $50k or more. Even a "regular" dirt bike with some pretty common upgrades will have another $5-10k worth of stuff hung off it.
I think we decided on a cocktail napkin that the difference in $ between average toys and the high end is 10x but its probably changed
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Shorts got tight for these two little shredders last night. Two stoked little dudes.
look! a shop with bikes. probably all spoken for.
them kids sporting anglesets and infinity engagement hand built wheels on those dentist builds
That’s so cool to seeQuote:
Originally Posted by shirk
So true. I was even dead set on a speshy evo-class bike until I was like "wait, I'm not rad" and saw the thrashing the regular stuff was taking in the reviews. I am now happy with my non-Evo purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon3
Kind of like how we all don't need 192 Big Mountain chargers for resort use *ducks*
Yes, not very many bikes for this time of year !Quote:
Originally Posted by klauss
All canfields new bikes. Lithium and one are very nice
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You shut yer goddam mouthQuote:
Originally Posted by schuss
So first ride, on my main close local loop. PR’d the down. Fiddled with stuff on the way up, cockpit mostly. I have not demoed any other bikes in this category so cant comment directly. Took almost no getting use to just fast out the gate. 29 lbs 6oz with pedals and bottle cages.Quote:
Originally Posted by xtrmjoe
Faster than tracer, much easier on the body and faster than the highball. When I locked the shock climbed nearly as efficiently as highball but with bigger tires. Cant wait to get more miles on it! Not sure i need the other bikes in the quiver, cept the kona ebike!
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Based on current HTA and designs (which I'm a fan of to a point), I should have died riding on rocks and techy trails w/ a HT 29er w/ a 71/72* HTA 10 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by schuss
You can say that again! It's just like skis...so much easier today...but also expands the possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTskibum
My first mountain bike was a bmx bike, so there’s that. Yellow Haro F2, good times
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Rocky Altitude photos to come!
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couldn't buy the bike I wanted for 2021 so had to build it myself
Santa Cruz v4 mullet WBP custom build
Instinct 70 COIL in purple. XT shifting an brakes, RF Turbine crank, ARC 30 with DT 350 hub. Cane Creek Helm Coil up front and DBCoil IL on the rear. Just a hair under 32lbs with my test ride platform pedals.
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The purple and sandstone are not bad.
Damn I like the looks of that.... how was the test ride?
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Nice Instinct Dee! That’s gonna be a fun machine everywhere.
damn dee, that's a bitchin' camaro
Haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by ticketchecker
^^both are nice rides!
Street art looks like it's at a shop?
I just saw this...haven't been paying attention, so old news to u guys, but wow...adjustable HT angles!?
https://youtu.be/mOCG7wBjTeg
That’s not mine. I ordered (back when I was employed) the Rocky Instinct 90. Full XTR, carbon wheels, carbon cranks, dentist spec’. It’s slated for delivery early June (ish).
I contract my self to a local shop and build their new bikes, custom builds, and lace custom wheels at my home shop. That way his mechanics/staff can concentrate on repairs and sales.
Rocky bikes just started arriving, today I built that Instinct Carbon 70 Coil, an Instinct C50, an Altitude A30, and just brought home an Instinct C70 to build tonight/morning.
Rocky Instinct Carbon 50
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Rocky Altitude Aluminum 30
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Dee on the test rides
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Some nice builds in here. The kona xc bike has some sweet lines. Not often i'd say that about an xc bike.
Cool santa cruz mullet bike. Red so its definitely fast
And that coil front and rear Rocky has to be fun. Great bike to add coil too. Still a reasonable weight
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shot taken at my scrap yard . my son runs street art jams and has some pretty sick stuff , thought it was good background for the new build , check outQuote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
https://www.instagram.com/spraydaysofficial/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/thejunkyardjam/
sorry for thread drift but some very cool stuff done. for the love of it down our way
You'll love that suspension combo... I've got the Helm II and DB Inline on my Forbidden (soon to be Highlander) and it's sooooo smooth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
Thinking about doing the helm/inline combo on my Ranger, probably should ride it as is first though.Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan